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David Collinge

Quote from: Flynn on February 11, 2007, 05:33:16 PM
With Calvin winning the MIAA title and on the cusp of a #1 ranking [...]

I'd hold off on that celebration party until the rankings come out.  Bowdoin has at least as good a claim to the top spot in this week's poll.

Flynn

Quote from: David Collinge on February 11, 2007, 06:14:25 PM
Quote from: Flynn on February 11, 2007, 05:33:16 PM
With Calvin winning the MIAA title and on the cusp of a #1 ranking [...]

I'd hold off on that celebration party until the rankings come out.  Bowdoin has at least as good a claim to the top spot in this week's poll.

Sorry, I misused the word cusp.

cusp [kuhsp] a point that marks the beginning of a change

I should have used verge.

verge [vurj] the edge, rim, or margin of something

I'd say Calvin is right on the edge of the top-ranking, but not quite there (maybe).

hawk'ster

Quote from: Flynn on February 11, 2007, 05:33:16 PM
With Calvin winning the MIAA title and on the cusp of a #1 ranking I did a very small piece of research and something dinged my curiousity. 

1996 .... 1st: (12-0)
1997 .... 1st: (11-1)
1998 .... 1st: (12-0)
1999 .... 1st: (14-2)
2000 .... 2nd: (13-3)
2001 .... 4th: (7-7)
2002 .... 5th: (7-7)
2003 .... 4th: (6-8)
2004 .... 1st: (13-1)
2005 .... 3rd: (13-3)
2006 .... 2nd: (14-2)
2007 .... 1st: (currently 14-0)

Where can one find MIAA standings older than 1996?

sac

I believe the Holland Archives in Hope's library has all of the MIAA historical stuff.  I have no idea if its available to the public.

From my vintage 1995 MIAA tournament program

1995
Hope.....11-1
Calvin....10-2
Alma......9-3
Adrian....5-7
Albion....4-8
Olivet.....2-10
Kzoo......1-11


Answer to an earlier question..........in 2001 to 2003  Kalamazoo had a couple very good teams, Alma and Albion also had good teams.

Dark Knight

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Quote from: hawk'ster on February 11, 2007, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: Flynn on February 11, 2007, 05:33:16 PM
With Calvin winning the MIAA title and on the cusp of a #1 ranking I did a very small piece of research and something dinged my curiousity. 

1996 .... 1st: (12-0)
1997 .... 1st: (11-1)
1998 .... 1st: (12-0)
1999 .... 1st: (14-2)
2000 .... 2nd: (13-3)
2001 .... 4th: (7-7)
2002 .... 5th: (7-7)
2003 .... 4th: (6-8)
2004 .... 1st: (13-1)
2005 .... 3rd: (13-3)
2006 .... 2nd: (14-2)
2007 .... 1st: (currently 14-0)

Where can one find MIAA standings older than 1996?

You can gather a bit more info from the MIAA in the NCAA page:

1985 Alma is MIAA champ, 1-1 in NCAAs
1986 Alma is MIAA champ, 1-1 in NCAAs
1987 Alma is MIAA champ, 1-1 in NCAAs
1988 Calvin is MIAA champ, 1-1 in NCAAs
1989 Alma is MIAA champ, 1-1 in NCAAs

1990 Hope is MIAA champ, 5-0 in NCAAs, national champ
1991 Adrian 1-1, Calvin 0-1 in NCAAs
1992 Alma is MIAA champ, 5-0 in NCAAs, national champ
1993 Calvin is MIAA champ, 0-1 in NCAAs
1994 Alma is MIAA champ, 1-1 in NCAAs
1995 Hope is MIAA champ, 0-1 in NCAAs
1996 Calvin 1-1 in NCAAs, Alma 0-1 in NCAAs
1997 Alma 1-1, Calvin 1-1 in NCAAs
1998 Calvin 1-1, Hope 0-1 in NCAAs
1999 Hope 0-1, Defiance 0-1, Calvin 2-1 in NCAAs

2000 Calvin 2-1 in NCAAs
2001 Hope 0-1 in NCAAs
2002 Hope 1-1 in NCAAs
2003 Hope 3-1 in NCAAs
2004 Albion 0-1 in NCAAs
2005 Calvin 3-1, Albion 1-1 in NCAAs
2006 Calvin 0-1, Hope 6-0 in NCAAs, national champ

Let's see, that's 8 NCAA appearances and a national championship for Alma, 10 appearances and 3 sectionals for Calvin, 8 appearances, two sectionals, and two national championships for Hope, and appearances for Adrian, Albion (2), and Defiance. The MIAA is 38 and 26 overall in the NCAAs (36 and 24 against non-MIAA teams), with 3 national championships in 22 years.

ziggy

Calvin moves into the #2 spot in this week's poll, just six points shy of #1.  Hope moves up a spot to #8 despite the loss on Saturday.

Harrier

Quote from: ziggy on February 12, 2007, 09:24:12 PM
Hope moves up a spot to #8 despite the loss on Saturday.

Brilliant.  I love to see a poll that makes sense.  A team barely losses to a top-team and moves up. 

David Collinge

Quote from: Harrier on February 12, 2007, 09:36:24 PM
Quote from: ziggy on February 12, 2007, 09:24:12 PM
Hope moves up a spot to #8 despite the loss on Saturday.

Brilliant.  I love to see a poll that makes sense.  A team barely losses to a top-team and moves up. 

They really did move up, too, albeit slightly--they gained 10 points.  So it's not just a question of moving up because the teams around them (like Rochester and IWU) fell faster, although that may have been a factor.

realist

Good points David.  The womens poll does seem to make a great deal of sense.  I am very happy to see Calvin in 2nd.  Over the years I think a #1 rating has hurt more teams than it has ever helped.  Last Sat. proves Hope hasn't lost much (from last year), and Calvin can't relax. :)
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ChicagoHopeNut

I think a Hope-Calvin rematch in the MIAA finals would be one of the more exciting championship games in years in the MIAA in either men or women's games.
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sac

Repeat matchups in the two conference finals are no guaruntee of course.......but it would be great if the starting times allowed fans to attend both Championship games. :)

The biggest obstacle for another Calvin/Hope game would seem to be a Hope/Albion matchup, which at least for now would be avoided.

Preto

Quote from: sac on February 13, 2007, 12:05:56 PM
Repeat matchups in the two conference finals are no guaruntee of course.......but it would be great if the starting times allowed fans to attend both Championship games. :)

The biggest obstacle for another Calvin/Hope game would seem to be a Hope/Albion matchup, which at least for now would be avoided.

Amen

ChicagoHopeNut

What a great effort tonight by Olivet. Very impressive.
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Oval

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MIAA scores
Wednesday Feb 14

Tri-State 67, Kalamazoo 46
Hope 63, Alma 48
Calvin 66, Olivet 62
Saint Mary's 71, Albion 63 (OT)

Harrier

Any thoughts on the MIAA basketball tournament?

SATURDAY, FEB. 17
Hope at Saint Mary's, 3 p.m.
Albion at Adrian, 3 p.m.
Kalamazoo at Olivet, 3 p.m.
Calvin at Alma, 3 p.m.