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sac

It was a great hard fought game at Calvin today.   Honestly though the last play by Calvin just left a pit in your stomach.  I felt terrible for the Knights........everyone there deserved to see if  Calvin could tie it.   Following just minutes after Harris went down was just cruel.  Sometimes you wonder about the fella upstairs. :-\


I think coach Ross should send a tape of Harris' injury to the supervisor of officials.  If I saw what I thought I did, the refs had 4 chances to stop that play before an injury occurred and didn't do it.  Granted I don't know when the injury occurred but it looked like it happened at the end.

1.  There was an initial foul on the play, call it and no mad scramble

2.  Probably could have called reaching in or a push on the scramble

3.  Hope player has posession calling timeout

4.  A Hope and Calvin player had posession, jump ball

The whistle took forever and a better whistle could have avoided injury.


Maybe I'm way off here, but that part of it was disappointing.

Very devastating day for the Knights, no one wants to see injuries in such big games and such important times of the year.

....and I agree the NCAA would be well served to keep these two far, far apart in the brackets.  But certainly you wonder about the Knights chances now,  Winkle will and is capable of carrying the load.

Dark Knight

Quote from: sac on February 25, 2007, 01:04:01 AM
It was a great hard fought game at Calvin today.   Honestly though the last play by Calvin just left a pit in your stomach.  I felt terrible for the Knights........everyone there deserved to see if  Calvin could tie it.   Following just minutes after Harris went down was just cruel.  Sometimes you wonder about the fella upstairs. :-\


I think coach Ross should send a tape of Harris' injury to the supervisor of officials.  If I saw what I thought I did, the refs had 4 chances to stop that play before an injury occurred and didn't do it.  Granted I don't know when the injury occurred but it looked like it happened at the end.

1.  There was an initial foul on the play, call it and no mad scramble

2.  Probably could have called reaching in or a push on the scramble

3.  Hope player has posession calling timeout

4.  A Hope and Calvin player had posession, jump ball

The whistle took forever and a better whistle could have avoided injury.


Thank you thank you thank you for saying it. I hate to complain about the reffing in a situation like this, but I was thinking earlier of posting and offering to take up a collection to help the MIAA hire some refs who could keep the game under control.

Too late now.

I didn't see any sort of contact in Brummel's case, though. It looked as though she just twisted her knee a little and crumpled to the floor in pain.

Harrier

Quote from: Harrier on February 11, 2007, 02:55:02 PM
Did anyone else think the game was over-the-top physical? 

Quote from: sac on February 25, 2007, 01:04:01 AM
I think coach Ross should send a tape of Harris' injury to the supervisor of officials.  If I saw what I thought I did, the refs had 4 chances to stop that play before an injury occurred and didn't do it.  Granted I don't know when the injury occurred but it looked like it happened at the end.

Again, I've never seen a men's game as physical as these women's games.  What is the thinking behind allowing such physical play?

Harrier

SCORES
MIAA Women's tournament

MONDAY - play-in game
Adrian 78, Kalamazoo 66

TUESDAY - quarterfinals
Calvin 90, Adrian 52
Hope 85, Tri-State 61
Saint Mary's 66, Alma 54
Albion 80, Olivet 74 (OT)

THURSDAY - semi-finals
Hope 71, St. Mary's 52
Calvin 70, Albion 54

SATURDAY - championship
Hope 71, Calvin 68

Dark Knight

Don't expect Harris or Brummel back anytime soon.

Losing them hurts--a lot.

Still, the knights have a deep team. I wonder if they can pull together in this adversity and still make a good NCAA run. Everyone else will have to step up a bit. They'll really have to pull together. But they do have the depth and the potential.

wiz

Quote from: Dark Knight on February 25, 2007, 07:56:10 PM
Don't expect Harris or Brummel back anytime soon.

Losing them hurts--a lot.

Still, the knights have a deep team. I wonder if they can pull together in this adversity and still make a good NCAA run. Everyone else will have to step up a bit. They'll really have to pull together. But they do have the depth and the potential.


I couldn't agree more.  It is very sad to lose two players in this manner.  Coach Ross said he'd rather lose by 40 points than to see these two young women get injured.

But, let's not give up on the rest fo the team.  Calvin is a deep and talented team and very well coached.  Oh, oh, I shouldn't have made that last comment because sac is probably going to think it's a slam against Hope's coach. :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(

Go Lady Knights!!!

WWWRHH

SAC and Dark Knight I could not agree more with your comments about the play that led to Harris' injury.  I have seen several similar situations this year where there was plenty of opportunity to call a jump ball, but instead the refs let the play proceed as more and more players get involved increasing the risk of injury.  Often the end result is a cheap foul or traveling call (as in the case of this play).  It makes me sick to see Harris with a serious injury well after the whistle should have ended the scrimmage.  I think all real fans want to see the game settled by the players.

Hopefully neither injury is as bad as feared and the recoveries will be quick and complete.

sac


realist

Not sure from these brackets who got the worse deal Calvin or Hope.  I am sure Hope fans aren't wild about going back to De Pauw.  It is going to be very hard for Calvin to mount an effective tournament with key players missing.
"If you are catching flack it means you are over the target".  Brietbart.

sac

One of these deserved a hosting opportunity.  But at least they kept them apart and can't meet untill elite 8 if they advanced.


Hope at DePauw is a gentle reminder that the NCAA really doesn't care what we think.

dothedew

BOO FREAKIN' HISS to the NCAA for sending the Hope ladies to DePauw this year after the MESS that was last season. I was fortunate/unfortunate to see that elite 8 game and the mess it caused after the fact. We don't need to dive back into the argument...but for those of us that were there...it was CRAP!
DUMB/DUMB/DUMB.

DPU3619

Welcome back, friends!

roaring0506

Yes, welcome back. 

Quote from: dothedew on February 26, 2007, 12:25:22 PM
BOO FREAKIN' HISS to the NCAA for sending the Hope ladies to DePauw this year after the MESS that was last season. I was fortunate/unfortunate to see that elite 8 game and the mess it caused after the fact. We don't need to dive back into the argument...but for those of us that were there...it was CRAP!
DUMB/DUMB/DUMB.


I'm so glad the "saintly" fans from Hope are coming back down to Greencastle.  I laughed as soon as the pairings came out because I wondered how quickly the fans from Hope would jump up and down and throw a fit (Thanks for being the first dothedew).  It amazes me that you care to talk more about the fans' behavior than the actual game itself. 

To what MATTERS THE MOST!!!!! - The Game

Hope vs. Denison
DePauw vs. Transylvania

Should be some very competitive 1st and 2nd round games in Greencastle this Friday!


sac

All MIAA team announced

Lisa Winkle, Calvin MVP

http://www.miaa.org/wbb/index.html

WWWRHH

Julie Henderson - Defensive Player of the Year

Hope has played much better over the past couple of weeks and look to be peaking at just the right time.

A big part of the resurgence has been Henderson's all around play.  Her assist to turnover ratio has been good and her shot selection excellant.  If the posts are open she distributes the ball inside, but if the posts are covered she has found the open lane or Boyles open for the jumper.  Obviously, she has played good defense all year, but has really stepped it up to the next level the past two games.

Boyles has also been driving the basket with confidence and her three point touch has returned.

It is unlikely that the Dutch 4s and 5s will have to face the size / talent combination Calvin put on the floor last Saturday with Harris, Winkle and Willet in at the same time.  But with Henderson and Boyles at the top of their game, slowing Woods and Lange is certainly not a guaranteed route to victory.