WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[sac]

I think it took 2 days for those grapes to turn sour. 

[WWWRHH]

Dark Knight I noticed Coach Morehouse voicing heated complaints to the refs on a couple of occasions, and from my vantage point it looked like some of the picks set to free up Winkle and Harris involved some grasping and foot sliding.

There are two posible conclusions to our observations; we either did not attend the same game....

or our view was clouded by our loyalties.

My physics is not good enough to justify the parallel universe theory, so my inclination is to go with the latter option.

I didn't see anything from either team that could be called dirty .... I saw two evenly matched teams that wanted to win contesting every play.

[KnightSlappy]

I think it took 2 days for those grapes to turn sour. 

sac's grapes normally turn sour right away.

[realist]

Both coaches were talking with the refs most of the game.  I thought they were paid to do that.  Calvin's problem wasn't the officials, it was turnovers.   You can not reasonably expect to win a hotly contested game with that number of turnovers.   Calvin needed to protect, and value the ball, and failed to do so.  Points to Hope for knowing/exploiting a Calvin weakness.  Frankly, Calvin should expect to see all future teams pressure the ball.  A guard should not pick up the dribble without having an exit strategy for the ball ahead of time.
Calvin got beat by a team that simply did what it had to do to win the game.  Don't fault Hope or the refs. because we did not solve the problem.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Is there an official word on the injuries to Harris and Brummels? I know the consensus was serious, season ending injuries but has that been confirmed?

[KnightSlappy]

I heard both Brummel and Harris are out with MCL injuries.

[Hoper Upper]

An MCL injury is not as serious as an ACL injury.  Depending upon the severity of the MCL injury, it might be possible to play with a knee brace. 

According to my info, Brummel is out for the playoffs.  Harris might be able to play with a knee brace.

[WWWRHH]

I googled MCL injuries and found the following:

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/kneeinjuries/a/mclinjury.htm

The article indicates that surgery is seldom required and depending on the severity, recovery can be fairly quick.

[northb]

I think it took 2 days for those grapes to turn sour. 

Sac--I'm not understanding your p.o.v.  On the previous page you summarized how that particular play could have been stopped by the refs stepping in before the injury occurred.  Hope's players were playing within what the refs would allow, DK is saying that he saw things that the refs should not have allowed.  I'm just not sure what is sour grapes about that.  

[sac]

northb
Anyone who saw that play would never come to the conclusion it was a dirty play........not what Dark Knight was referring to either.   DK was referring to the overall game...........which I would never come close to describing as dirty.........in fact it wasn't nearly as physical as the Hope/Calvin game I saw in Holland.  DK's assertion that Hope played dirty I interpret as an attempt to downplay his teams loss, and an attempt to label a Hope team in a way that in no way should they be labled.

For what its worth, the Calvin girl got hurt when a teamate rolled over her, not a Hope player.

The sour grapes..........just my attempt at humor which seems to repeatedly sail over the heads of certain posters.

[realist]

Be sure to read the nice article on Willet, and Partridge in the Around the Nation section.  A very nice piece on two players being asked to step up their games. 

[wiz]

Well let's hope the MIAA is represented better at Wilmington and Aurora than at Greencastle.  Good grief!

[Dark Knight]

Wow, Hope 18 Denison 40, at the half.  Hope 6-27 (22%) for field goals. Denison 14-30 for 47%.

Calvin over Thomas More 15-5 about half way through the first half. Sounds like Thomas More is not used to the kind of defense the Knights are bringing.

Thomas More is double teaming Winkle at every opportunity.

Now 19-13. Winkle is getting triple-teamed and Calvin's three-point attempts aren't falling.

Walker got a 3, making it 24-15.

26-20 at the half.

[realist]

DK:  I am checking that out it just doesn't sound good for Hope.  I am sure they have a very hostle crowd in IN.

[realist]

Not sure Calvin has enough depth left to survive tonight.