WBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletics Association

[Ralph Turner]

Are you talking Massey or Massey MOV?

There is a big difference in the two.

I have always been told that Massey MOV is more reflective as a statistical tool.

Massey

Massey MOV

[Pat Coleman]

Seems to me it fairly underrated some teams, by your own admission.

Also seems silly for you to refer to yourself in the third person.

[Ralph Turner]

One correction...

HPU opened the tourney with D3hoops.com #12 McMurry.  (McMurry was ranked #6 in Massey, #8 in the final Massey MOV.  The WBCA never had McMurry ranked as high as the other rankings/ratings.  (I wonder if the resignation of the 2007 McMurry women's coach at the end of the last season was a factor in the voting by the WBCA this season.)

[Flying Dutch Fan]

It would appear that the RCA really knows how to play women's ball.  Northwestern (of Iowa) - Hope's sister college - won the women's NAIA Div II national championship, and finished with a record of 35-2.  While Hope had a fabulous year around an entire team, NW did it a bit different. 

Senior Debbie Remmerde led the Raiders with a 30.3 point average.  She finished her career 1 point shy of the all-time NAIA scoring record, finishing with 3854 points.  She also set the career free throw record at 95.8% (657 / 686), including a collegiate record 133 in a row.  From behind the arc, she was 481/888 or 54.2%.  Amazing numbers!!

(OK - so it's my alma matter, and I had to brag a little.  I still bleed orange & blue)

[sac]

Here's one for the ladies......from the Detroit News All-Metro-East, and Second Team Class A

Claire Cannon, Clinton Township Chippewa Valley: Cannon averaged 15.2 points, 4.2 assists and 3.7 rebounds to help Chippewa Valley to the MAC White title and the Class A regional final. "Claire's a gym rat," coach Dave Prestininzi said. "She's a great leader and great competitor." College -- Albion

[sac]

Tidbits from the Hope women's schedule.

Open Saturday Nov 15 at DeVos vs Mt Union

Possibly 2 games with Defiance within 3 days of each other early in the season.

MIAA opener is a doozy on Wed. December 3 @ Albion;  should be two top 25 type teams there.  Return trip is Sat. Jan 24

Hope is traveling to the RDV Tournament in Orlando this year, the same one the men took part in last season.   Hope, Carthage, Elmhurst and Lawrence will be there.  Not sure of the format.

Hope is also playing Cornerstone, not sure these two programs have met very often on the women's side.

Calvin at Hope Wednesday Jan 14 at 7:30 PM
Hope at Calvin  Saturday Feb 21 3PM in the season finaly

[oldknight]

Hope at Calvin  Saturday Feb 21 3PM in the season finaly

I have it on good authority that next season's home contest with Hope will be Calvin's Homecoming game--the first ever Homecoming dedicated solely to the distaff side of the hoops schedule (the men will be on the road).

[oldknight]

Hope at Calvin  Saturday Feb 21 3PM in the season finaly

I have it on good authority that next season's home contest with Hope will be Calvin's Homecoming game--the first ever Homecoming dedicated solely to the distaff side of the hoops schedule (the men will be on the road).

Apparently my "good authority" proved to be something less than that. Calvin's hoops schedules are up now and they show Homecoming set for the February 7 men's game against Adrian--not the women's game against Hope. I've voted to impeach my unimpeachable source.

[Norm Zylstra]

Hope at Calvin  Saturday Feb 21 3PM in the season finale

I have it on good authority that next season's home contest with Hope will be Calvin's Homecoming game--the first ever Homecoming dedicated solely to the distaff side of the hoops schedule (the men will be on the road).

Apparently my "good authority" proved to be something less than that. Calvin's hoops schedules are up now and they show Homecoming set for the February 7 men's game against Adrian--not the women's game against Hope. I've voted to impeach my unimpeachable source.

Your original source was correct. 

Calvin's 2009 Homecoming Saturday is February 21, 2009.  The basketball game is between the Knights and Dutch women's teams. 

It's my job to know (as silly as that sounds, it really is).  I'll check about where the schedule information came from, thanks for the heads-up.  February 7 would be too close to the beginning of 2nd semester anyways.

[gottaluvhoops]

How is the Hope recruiting class this year?

[WWWRHH]

The only recruit name I have heard is Jessa Boles - Jordan's sister.   Word is that she is very good, but a little bigger and more of a swing player than Jordan.

No rumors of transfers (read the men's board)  .

When open gym's start there may be more word on who plans to attend.  I get the impression that it is not unusual for the Dutch to have players change their mind and attend Hope after planning to enroll elsewhere.  Snikkers made a late decision last year and I think O'Hare did the same year before last.

Also heard through the grapevine that the emphasis was on bringing in some guards with the loss of Hederson and Boles and Kopke's injury (rehab is going well), and still a very deep post roster - Snikkers, Knox, O'Hare, Bruinsma and Kutne (6'3"+, 6'2", 6'0", 6'1" and 6'1").   Morehousd seems to like all of them all and it seemed hard to get everyone good minutes last year.  It will be interesting to see how the post players are paired up.  Knox and Snikkers played together most of the time after Carrie returned from her injury and it was a very effective scoring and rebounding combination, but they are also the two best inside bangers of the group.  I think it is possible they will play on seperate rotations to balance rebounding and keep a big body in the game all the time - but that is pure speculation.

They carried 16 on the roster last year, but with 7 players returning from the regular rotation and Bruinsma and Geers getting minutes whenever possible it could be hard for freshman to break in to the rotation.  I have also heard that a couple of players from the JV have a shot at making the team.

I suppose that depth has its problems, but I think most coaches would rather worry how to distribute playing time rather than scrape to fill a starting lineup with adequate players.

[Flea]

Some volleyball recruiting news.  She transferring to Hope and could push the Dutch to the final four this coming season.

Femi Alabi

[sac]

Women's attendance release

http://www.hope.edu/pr/pressreleases/content/view/full/18907

[Cowman]

USA Olympic Trials schedule and results

Katie Corner, former Calvin College basketball player, finishes 9th at the Olympic Trials.

Women Discus Throw
==========================================================================
Auto Qualifier: 60.00
       World: W 76.80m  7/9/1988    Gabriele Reinsch, GDR
    American: A 67.67m  4/14/2007   Suzy Powell-Roos, Asics
          OT: T 65.90m  7/17/2000   Seilala Sua, UCLA
     Hayward: S 65.36m  2000        Lisa Marie Vizaniari, Australia
    Name                    Year Team                    Finals
==========================================================================
Finals
  1 Aretha Thurmond              Nike                    65.20m     213-11
      60.89m  65.20m  58.84m  57.98m  FOUL  59.82m
  2 Suzy Powell-Roos             Tri-Valley Asics        62.92m     206-05
      59.88m  58.95m  62.55m  59.69m  59.51m  62.92m
  3 Stephanie Brown Trafton      Nike                    62.65m     205-06
      FOUL  60.24m  60.43m  62.65m  FOUL  60.52m
  4 Becky Breisch                Nike                    61.04m     200-03
      60.36m  59.52m  61.04m  FOUL  56.25m  55.19m
  5 Cecilia Barnes               unattached              56.91m     186-08
      56.91m  55.80m  FOUL  55.05m  56.64m  56.68m
  6 Summer Pierson               unattached              56.69m     186-00
      53.96m  FOUL  56.69m  56.12m  FOUL  56.48m
  7 Kelechi Anyanwu              unattached              54.51m     178-10
      54.51m  53.10m  52.99m  FOUL  52.71m  FOUL
  8 Taiyshawna Battle            Arizona State           54.22m     177-11
      51.04m  54.22m  52.88m  50.29m  53.60m  52.83m
  9 Katie Corner                 Throw 1 Deep            53.49m     175-06
      53.13m  53.49m  53.16m
10 Khadija Talley               Miami                   53.49m     175-06
      53.05m  52.43m  53.49m
11 Rachel Longfors              Tri-Valley Asics        53.44m     175-04
      53.44m  FOUL  51.60m
12 Rachel Varner                unattached              53.23m     174-08
      52.99m  53.23m  FOUL

[WWWRHH]

Today's Holland Sentinel had an article on the Dutch basketball team where the coach and a couple of players were quoted as saying that they hope to be good again this year and make another tournament run.  Nothing surprising there.....

But Morehouse was also quoted as saying that Calvin will have the biggest front court in the league.

Reviewing last year's Calvin roster it looks like starters Van Eck (5-9) and Harris (6-1) return along with Roodvoets (6-2) and Cryderman (6-0).  Based on what I have seen in the past, I didn't anticpate Roodvoets getting significant minutes.

Hope returns probable starters Snikkers (6-3) and Knox (6-2), along with Bruinsma (6-1) - who will probably see significant playing time - and Kutney (6-1).

Do the Knights have a couple of tall, talented recruits that are going to replace the size lost with the departure of Winkle and Willet in 07?

Or is Morehouse creating something to worry about?

Calvin does return a good core. But it seems to me that some teams lost significant talent and, unlike the Dutch, do not have the obvious replacements already on the roster.  It would appear that this year's recruiting class is especially important for Albion (post players) and St. Mary's (guard) if they are to challenge Hope and Calvin for the league's top spots.

November is still four monhts away, but does anyone have impressions of how the recruiting classes look based on summer leagues and open gyms.


http://www.hollandsentinel.com/sports/x544082489/Flying-Dutch-hope-to-make-another-bid-for-national-championship