FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[repete]

Fact: The Britons know how to bury a person.  This has to be the biggest funeral in history.  Since Augustus, maybe.  The Empire, eh?

I know Walter Sobchak hasn't posted here for years, but I prefer  the Lebowski method. Where's the Folgers can?

[bleedpurple]

Despite losing a first place vote we increased our points total and are within 4 of NCC. Considering they have 7 more first place votes it seems other voters might rate them in the 3-5 range. Been a wild 3 weeks of movement up and down the top 25.

It'll be interesting to see how the top moves as the season progresses. NCC, SJU, and UMHB all playing their big conference foe within the next couple of weekends which will include 1 (potentially 2) top 10 game/s. How that changes the points compared to MU or if UWW will start taking points with each win in the WIAC. River Falls also crept up a spot. All just eye test discussion and debate.

There is no doubt the Johnnies have accomplished more than NCC this year.  This seems to be a classic "early season accomplishment vs dominance  over the past few years" argument. I'm no expert in the psychology of a top 25 voter, but my gut tells me NCC's margin is on thin ice here. I think the more the season progresses, the more the weight that will be assigned to this season. The problem is that NCC plays in a similar conference as NCC. Both teams will face only one more team all year even receiving votes in the Top 25.

[SagatagSam]

St. Scholastica obliterated the spread (Crown +25.5) with ease to dampen Crown's homecoming, 63-14.
The UM-Morris Cougars held the high-flying Carleton offense in check for the first half. The Knights poured it on in the second, but fell short of covering spread (UM-M + 40.5), 41-7.
UW-Stout at Gustavus was the game of the week for the MIAC teams. Stout turned the Gusties over on downs at midfield with just under a minute remaining and then converted a 4th and 2, throwing deep for a 62-yard TD with 15 seconds left to not only cover the spread (UW-Stout +10.5) but take the win outright, 28-25.
Augsburg scored two TDs nine seconds apart in the first quarter (a 50-yard TD toss from Cade Sheehan to Tyrone Wilson and a 25-yard scoop and score by Michael Harris III) and the Auggies never looked back to cover the spread (MLC +28.5) and win, 41-7.

[AO]

MIAC PICK-EMS
WEEK 3 STANDINGS

WEEK 4
Conference: 3pts
#2 St. John's @ #20 Bethel (+7.5)
Gustavus @ Concordia (+8.5)
Carleton @ Hamline (+25.5)
St. Scholastica (+35.5) @ Augsburg
St. Olaf @ Macalester (+13.5)

Other games: 1pt
#5 Mary Hardin-Baylor @ #6 Hardin-Simmons (+3.5)
Lincoln (+40.5) @ St. Thomas

[BDB]

I think too, that getting obliterated by Wartburg, who isn't super high in the poll, is also a bad look for Stout in the eyes of Top 25 voters.

I'm sure that's true. Stout having a bye to start the season and then traveling to play a tough team that had a game under their belt didn't help.

I was glad to see Wartburg enter the Top 25 and I bet they keep rising in it.

[SagatagSam]

Some questions headed into Week 4:

Jaren Roste. Will he play? And, if he does, will he be anywhere close to 100%?

Carleton has shown it can put up points so far this year, but can that translate to the MIAC competition?

St. Scholastica has been hot and cold to start (losing 50-0 at Sewanee and thumping Crown 63-14) can they keep it close against Augsburg?

Gustavus won a decisive 39-7 victory over Concordia in snow-covered Moorhead to end last season and secure their best record since 1998. Can GAC come off the heartbreaking loss to Stout on the road? What can we expect from a Concordia squad that eeked out a win at Valley City State and then thumped overmatched Presentation?

Macalester enters the MIAC regular season undefeated for the first time since 2000 (to be fair, they beat Carleton and Hamline by 10 and 11, respectively, in non-conference play in 2018 and opened the MWC conference season undefeated). Can the Scots avenge last year's 13-point loss in Northfield to the Oles in last season's MIAC opener?

[carletonknights]

Carleton has shown it can put up points so far this year, but can that translate to the MIAC competition?

I think their lack of a run game will severely hold them back in conference play. Their passing attack can do damage against any team provided the line just gives them a chance. That seems unlikely against equally talented teams. Regardless, I don't expect Hamline to serve as a good barometer this weekend.

[TheChucker]

Despite losing a first place vote we increased our points total and are within 4 of NCC. Considering they have 7 more first place votes it seems other voters might rate them in the 3-5 range. Been a wild 3 weeks of movement up and down the top 25.

It'll be interesting to see how the top moves as the season progresses. NCC, SJU, and UMHB all playing their big conference foe within the next couple of weekends which will include 1 (potentially 2) top 10 game/s. How that changes the points compared to MU or if UWW will start taking points with each win in the WIAC. River Falls also crept up a spot. All just eye test discussion and debate.

There is no doubt the Johnnies have accomplished more than NCC this year.  This seems to be a classic "early season accomplishment vs dominance  over the past few years" argument. I'm no expert in the psychology of a top 25 voter, but my gut tells me NCC's margin is on thin ice here. I think the more the season progresses, the more the weight that will be assigned to this season. The problem is that NCC plays in a similar conference as NCC. Both teams will face only one more team all year even receiving votes in the Top 25.

Hardin Simmons could (should?) vault over NCC with a win over UMHB this weekend (though they haven't done that in a long time) and the monkey stomping of a WIAC team on the road. That could be one heck of an early season resume.

[faunch]

Some questions headed into Week 4:

Jaren Roste. Will he play? And, if he does, will he be anywhere close to 100%?

Carleton has shown it can put up points so far this year, but can that translate to the MIAC competition?

St. Scholastica has been hot and cold to start (losing 50-0 at Sewanee and thumping Crown 63-14) can they keep it close against Augsburg?

Gustavus won a decisive 39-7 victory over Concordia in snow-covered Moorhead to end last season and secure their best record since 1998. Can GAC come off the heartbreaking loss to Stout on the road? What can we expect from a Concordia squad that eeked out a win at Valley City State and then thumped overmatched Presentation?

Macalester enters the MIAC regular season undefeated for the first time since 2000 (to be fair, they beat Carleton and Hamline by 10 and 11, respectively, in non-conference play in 2018 and opened the MWC conference season undefeated). Can the Scots avenge last year's 13-point loss in Northfield to the Oles in last season's MIAC opener?

And will Trost play or will it be up to Feddema to carry the load. He filled in admirably two weeks against UWRF and had some big boy carries.
Bethel has given up an average of 91 yards rushing in two games. Jays are averaging 30.5 yards on the ground in two games. Against UWW the Johnnies threw the ball 31 times and ran 34.  Against UWRF was a little heavier on the rush...39 passing plays to 48 rush. I expect to see blitzing by Bethel and an attempt to take away Jimmy Buck over the middle.

[DuffMan]

Has anyone heard anything on Trost's injury?

[bleedpurple]

Despite losing a first place vote we increased our points total and are within 4 of NCC. Considering they have 7 more first place votes it seems other voters might rate them in the 3-5 range. Been a wild 3 weeks of movement up and down the top 25.

It'll be interesting to see how the top moves as the season progresses. NCC, SJU, and UMHB all playing their big conference foe within the next couple of weekends which will include 1 (potentially 2) top 10 game/s. How that changes the points compared to MU or if UWW will start taking points with each win in the WIAC. River Falls also crept up a spot. All just eye test discussion and debate.

There is no doubt the Johnnies have accomplished more than NCC this year.  This seems to be a classic "early season accomplishment vs dominance  over the past few years" argument. I'm no expert in the psychology of a top 25 voter, but my gut tells me NCC's margin is on thin ice here. I think the more the season progresses, the more the weight that will be assigned to this season. The problem is that NCC plays in a similar conference as NCC. Both teams will face only one more team all year even receiving votes in the Top 25.

Hardin Simmons could (should?) vault over NCC with a win over UMHB this weekend (though they haven't done that in a long time) and the monkey stomping of a WIAC team on the road. That could be one heck of an early season resume.

Agreed that would be an amazing start for the Cowboys! Oddly enough, their argument to move past  #1 NCC would probably be stronger than their argument to move past #2 St. John's, if the Johnnies beat Bethel on Saturday.  St. John's wins over UW-W, UW-RF, and Bethel would have to be considered even stronger than Cowboy wins over Wayland Baptist, UW-Platteville, and UMHB.

[retagent]

https://twitter.com/SportingPete/status/1571331327076585473

The big play where UW Stout took the lead for the first time vs GAC with seconds to go.

What a great way to win, good for UW-Stout. Did the Stout WR get away with a little offensive pass interference on the play? Maybe. Congratulations to the Blue Devil squad.

I thought the receiver pushed off to knock the DB off stride resulting in his stumbling. Glad I was't the only voice.

[SagatagSam]

https://twitter.com/SportingPete/status/1571331327076585473

The big play where UW Stout took the lead for the first time vs GAC with seconds to go.

What a great way to win, good for UW-Stout. Did the Stout WR get away with a little offensive pass interference on the play? Maybe. Congratulations to the Blue Devil squad.

I thought the receiver pushed off to knock the DB off stride resulting in his stumbling. Glad I was't the only voice.

I hadn't watched it close to see the receiver and defensive back until just now. It looked like some substantial contact that causes separation just before the ball comes in, and the receiver has his arm out.

GAC fans have every right to grumble about a no-call on pass interference there.

[TheChucker]

https://twitter.com/SportingPete/status/1571331327076585473

The big play where UW Stout took the lead for the first time vs GAC with seconds to go.

What a great way to win, good for UW-Stout. Did the Stout WR get away with a little offensive pass interference on the play? Maybe. Congratulations to the Blue Devil squad.

I thought the receiver pushed off to knock the DB off stride resulting in his stumbling. Glad I was't the only voice.

There might have been some contact, but the DB went to the ground on his own accord. That won't go over well during film session.

[Boys of Fall]

https://twitter.com/SportingPete/status/1571331327076585473

The big play where UW Stout took the lead for the first time vs GAC with seconds to go.

What a great way to win, good for UW-Stout. Did the Stout WR get away with a little offensive pass interference on the play? Maybe. Congratulations to the Blue Devil squad.

I thought the receiver pushed off to knock the DB off stride resulting in his stumbling. Glad I was't the only voice.

There might have been some contact, but the DB went to the ground on his own accord. That won't go over well during film session.

Some of this might need to go on the GAC coaches.  The defensive set was questionable for that situation.  The safeties were only about 10 yards of the ball at the snap.  A first down won't hurt like a deep ball will.