FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[faunch]

I was going to post this on the D3 baseball board but it doesn't look like there's been a post there since 2015.
Gustavus player and coach with an epic meltdown. Announcer is an idiot for calling this a "minor" bat flip. Dude threw the bat from literally outside the left hand batter's box over to the Gustie bench on the 3rd base line.
The be is the "Are you enjoying your power" rant at the end of the clip.
Gustie player and coach with the well deserved ejection.

https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1655646543720898567?s=20

[SagatagSam]

I was going to post this on the D3 baseball board but it doesn't look like there's been a post there since 2015.
Gustavus player and coach with an epic meltdown. Announcer is an idiot for calling this a "minor" bat flip. Dude threw the bat from literally outside the left hand batter's box over to the Gustie bench on the 3rd base line.
The be is the "Are you enjoying your power" rant at the end of the clip.
Gustie player and coach with the well deserved ejection.

https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1655646543720898567?s=20

Sportsmanship is a point of emphasis for officials at all levels except the professional ranks. And, guess where the overwhelming majority of young athletes look to emulate their play and behavior? MLB, NBA, NFL, etc.

If you can't celebrate a big home run without throwing the bat 30 feet, then the only way to get through to you is to remove you from the game. And, if you're a coach defending that conduct, maybe that says something more about you then it does the player. We have a saying in officiating: "What we permit we promote." If this umpire lets a 30-foot bat throw go, he just set a precedent that everyone can do the same thing. And, having had games get out of control on me, it's near impossible to reel a game back in when you let things go early. It's like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.

I'd call it the same way if a Johnnie threw the bat.

As a technical question, I'm wondering if the home run still counts? I'm presuming it does. It looks like the home plate umpire waited until the runner touched home plate (thus scoring the run) before ejecting him from the game.

[formerd3db]

I was going to post this on the D3 baseball board but it doesn't look like there's been a post there since 2015.
Gustavus player and coach with an epic meltdown. Announcer is an idiot for calling this a "minor" bat flip. Dude threw the bat from literally outside the left hand batter's box over to the Gustie bench on the 3rd base line.
The be is the "Are you enjoying your power" rant at the end of the clip.
Gustie player and coach with the well deserved ejection.

https://twitter.com/JomboyMedia/status/1655646543720898567?s=20

Sportsmanship is a point of emphasis for officials at all levels except the professional ranks. And, guess where the overwhelming majority of young athletes look to emulate their play and behavior? MLB, NBA, NFL, etc.

If you can't celebrate a big home run without throwing the bat 30 feet, then the only way to get through to you is to remove you from the game. And, if you're a coach defending that conduct, maybe that says something more about you then it does the player. We have a saying in officiating: "What we permit we promote." If this umpire lets a 30-foot bat throw go, he just set a precedent that everyone can do the same thing. And, having had games get out of control on me, it's near impossible to reel a game back in when you let things go early. It's like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.

I'd call it the same way if a Johnnie threw the bat.

As a technical question, I'm wondering if the home run still counts? I'm presuming it does. It looks like the home plate umpire waited until the runner touched home plate (thus scoring the run) before ejecting him from the game.

SagatagSam:

Agree with you 100%. Good commentary. One question, though. Why wouldn't the home run count? They don't rescind touchdowns after they are scored when the player does the same type of excessive celebration i.e. slams (spikes) the ball into the endzone turf. The violation (loss of yardage) is tacked on to the PAT attempt or the ensuing kickoff, correct?

Anyway, as you say-the only way such antics are accepted are in the pros, including the "new" USFL! 
Thanks for your comments and to Faunch for bringing this to our attention. Interesting topic of discussion.     

[Texas Ole]

That was excessive!  I have no problem with a celebration, but this one was unnecessary and dangerous.  That bat could've hit and hurt someone.  Don't like being celebrated against then find a way to stop it.  Also learn to win with class.  I would say to act like you've been there before, but some people haven't had any success.

If the player is called out for throwing the bat it is a dead ball out.  No home run.  If it is just an ejection then it occurs after the play is completed.

A few years ago I had a guy take me deep in church rec league softball.  The church ran the league through a city.  It was filled with corruption.  Active negative recruiting for new players, profiteering, and just dirty play.  I have no problem giving up a home run.  It's slowpitch softball.  The rule was where you could only have one more home run than your opponent.  I knew a guy was going to take me deep so I put a pitch where if he did it was going to be impressive.  He sent it out the park with a minor celebration.  His mom wanted to keep the ball.  The next one I put right down the middle knowing he didn't know the rule if he hit a second one.  Sure enough he hits out of the park, and I start walking to dugout.  I am in the dugout before the ball lands.  At that point the other team realizes not only is it an inning ending out, but also that player is ejected.  With that ejection my team which was the most recreational one in the league almost came back to win the game.  The fun of being on a team more concerned about pizza and beer.

[OzJohnnie]

Take your sportsmanship and shove it up your clacker.  Between the white lines there is just one thing that matters: #winning

[Texas Ole]

Take your sportsmanship and shove it up your clacker.  Between the white lines there is just one thing that matters: #winning

Some teams can't use white lines.  The players try snorting them.

[SagatagSam]

One question, though. Why wouldn't the home run count? They don't rescind touchdowns after they are scored when the player does the same type of excessive celebration i.e. slams (spikes) the ball into the endzone turf. The violation (loss of yardage) is tacked on to the PAT attempt or the ensuing kickoff, correct?

I have no clue on baseball officiating mechanics. I don't know if there is a mechanism for stopping the game mid-play in baseball. It makes perfect sense that it home run would count and that was my presumption.

For example, in basketball, if a offensive player attempts a long three point shot from in front of the opponents bench, and, in anticipation of a made basket turns around immediately after the release and yells "F*** you!" at the opposing bench before the basket is made, the official has the authority to disallow the basket because the foul occurred on the offense prior to the made goal.

[DuffMan]

This reminds me of the time years ago that a St. Norbert's player gave the one-finger salute to the crowd at Clemens. 

[Pat Coleman]

This reminds me of the time years ago that a St. Norbert's player gave the one-finger salute to the crowd at Clemens. 

An All-American tight end, at that.

[SagatagSam]

This reminds me of the time years ago that a St. Norbert's player gave the one-finger salute to the crowd at Clemens. 

An All-American tight end, at that.

I was at that game with my dad! The guy ended up apologizing to the CSB-SJU community via a letter to the editor in The Record.

[SagatagSam]

Ooof.

I spent an extra five minutes doing my own "where are they now?" on Mr. Seth A. Schussler, No. 99 Tight End for the St. Norbert College Green Knights football team.

I did not expect to find what I found. He has been in and out of prison since 2016.

As of 2017 he had seven "Operating While Intoxicated" offenses: https://www.weau.com/content/news/Man-charged-with-7th-OWI-offense-446983183.html

He is currently being held at Kettle Moraine Correctional Institution near Plymouth, Wisconsin until at least June 20, 2024. That's pretty dang sad.

   

[DuffMan]

Yikes.  That is sad. 

[Pat Coleman]

Whoa.

[sjusection105]

I remember that game.
Life is a series of choices, each choice leads you in one of two directions. Each subsequent choice leads to another outcome until our last breath. It's kind of mind-boggling.
Substance addiction is an evil player and this player often wins. It's a sad situation.

[OzJohnnie]

Booze can be a hell of a downer.