FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Buckman]

The morbidly obese "gentleman" in the wheelchair was quite fun to watch.  On the int for the TD that was called back, he actually got out of his chair to cheer!

I think he got out of his chair because he just found out he was going to Chuck E. Cheese after the game.

[Pat Coleman]

57: Thanks, re: 19 million.

A couple of things.

1. Who schedules their Homecoming game against the Johnnies?  Only an arrogant Chris Meidt... 

I thought Homecoming was supposed to be a game where you scheduled someone you knew you could dominate like Hamline, Mac, Auggie, or GAC, to show your alumni that your school is a powerhouse.

Actually scheduling homecoming is the alumni office's doing in most places. Athletic director second. Coach not usually involved.

[57Johnnie]

The Florwegians probably scheduled the Johnnies because they thought they had a fighting chance. They just kept forgetting about the FOOTBALL part.

[Warren Thompson]

The Florwegians probably scheduled the Johnnies because they thought they had a fighting chance. They just kept forgetting about the FOOTBALL part.

On the other hand, St. Olaf has a better choir .... 

[VOJ]

Same old St. Olaf...all fluff, they would not have beaten SJU two years ago had the field been in better shape and the kicker not been a head case.  St. Olaf will have their playoff dreams shattered next Saturday by Concordia for the second straight year.  If everything holds true to form I don't see anymore than one MIAC team, SJU, in the NCAA Playoffs...

[tmerton]

Anyone out there who could get the Stiftungsfest burger up to Collegeville this Saturday for me? I would have to get it to you by this Thursday since my flight to Denver is on Friday. KR, any chance you could make the trip back to Chaska this week and be the transport person once again? You did such a great job in `03.

JR -- we land at the airport at 5:30 or so and then head to Collegeville.  What time do they open on Sat. morning?  If they're open way early, that would work.

[OleGriz]

57Johnnie-

You are right that the Oles did not have a fighting chance in yesterday's game.  This is not due to the superior talent of SJU (though Kofoed is an excellent quarterback and the Olaf 4th down attempts were ill-considered).  St. Olaf never had a chance because the officials would not let them.  On many of their pass plays, there was flagrant holding that was not called (on one scoring play, a rushing Ole was tackled from behind as he headed toward the quarterback).  When it looked like the Oles might rally at the start of the second-half, flagrant pass interference in the endzone was ignored.  On a couple of 3rd and short for the Johnnies, it seemed as if the refs just gave them the first down with phantom offsides calls.  St. John's has a good team that is difficult to beat.  Doing so when they have 16 men on the field on every play is impossible.

[57Johnnie]

The Florwegians probably scheduled the Johnnies because they thought they had a fighting chance. They just kept forgetting about the FOOTBALL part.

On the other hand, St. Olaf has a better choir .... 

That's up for debate. However, there is no unsportsmanlike conduct in Choir - I don't think. 

[57Johnnie]

DuffMan,
You got OleGrouch - you were there.

[farley101]

57Johnnie-

You are right that the Oles did not have a fighting chance in yesterday's game.  This is not due to the superior talent of SJU (though Kofoed is an excellent quarterback and the Olaf 4th down attempts were ill-considered).  St. Olaf never had a chance because the officials would not let them.  On many of their pass plays, there was flagrant holding that was not called (on one scoring play, a rushing Ole was tackled from behind as he headed toward the quarterback).  When it looked like the Oles might rally at the start of the second-half, flagrant pass interference in the endzone was ignored.  On a couple of 3rd and short for the Johnnies, it seemed as if the refs just gave them the first down with phantom offsides calls.  St. John's has a good team that is difficult to beat.  Doing so when they have 16 men on the field on every play is impossible.

well here comes the excuses.....

[tmerton]

57Johnnie-

You are right that the Oles did not have a fighting chance in yesterday's game.  This is not due to the superior talent of SJU (though Kofoed is an excellent quarterback and the Olaf 4th down attempts were ill-considered).  St. Olaf never had a chance because the officials would not let them.  On many of their pass plays, there was flagrant holding that was not called (on one scoring play, a rushing Ole was tackled from behind as he headed toward the quarterback).  When it looked like the Oles might rally at the start of the second-half, flagrant pass interference in the endzone was ignored.  On a couple of 3rd and short for the Johnnies, it seemed as if the refs just gave them the first down with phantom offsides calls.  St. John's has a good team that is difficult to beat.  Doing so when they have 16 men on the field on every play is impossible.

Oh, puuuleaassee.       Do you serve cheese with you whine?

[VOJ]

Hey OleGriz...

What were you smoking while watching the game?  Did u share with the rest of the Ole fans who were a silent bunch?  You can't win a game against a SUPERIOR opponent if you are not disciplined, and lining up in the neutral zone and personal foul penalties are the signs of an undisciplined team.  Coaching stupidity aside(4th down decisions, no defensive game plan) there you have to have football smarts and guess what...they don't, just come to grips that the Ole's are an middle of the pack team, lacking in many areas

[repete]

St. Olaf never had a chance because the officials would not let them.

Hey, I thought the Oles were saying before the game that the Johnnies were going to be making the excuses ....

What's up with that?

[Buckman]

[sjusection105]

Serious open question to any Ole with accurate knowledge.

I saw a sign at the concession stand that said "Tips are appreciated, room & board $38,500.00" This being said to get to the question at hand. With over 20 players on the roster from Flordia, do these kids get "need based scholarships"? If Sven Olsen or Lina Anderson from Anytown,Minnesota pay full boat do kids with an economic need and a special skill(football) get a reduced rate? Another way to ask would be if Lina Anderson is from New York Mills, MN and can sing like an angel, yet her parents make minimum wage at the lefsa factory would she get a "need based scholarship" to attend St. Olaf & sing in the choir? I used choir because I know they are world class.

Well, I am not an Ole, but I think I can give you "accurate knowledge"! Assuming that the Oles are playing by the rules, there are no athletic scholarships. Does this mean that none of the players are on some type of scholarship? No. A need based scholarship is just that, the student/family has to be able to demonstrate that they are high need (usually done by completing the FAFSA and or Profile). Another type of scholarship is a diversity based scholarship. This is used by schools to bring in students that meet the profile of what the school deems is an under-represented population on campus. This can be based on ethnicity, socioeconomic status or even first generation college students. Schools also have merit based scholarships that are awarded on grades/SAT/ACT scores or on talent such as vocal ability. Should a student be awarded a need based scholarship based on being able to "sing like an angel"? No. Could they be awarded a merit based scholarship for their vocal talent? Yes. As to SOC's Florida students, they could be paying full price or be at the school on any number of different scholarships. It is often cheaper for a student to attend a private school (due to institutional grants/scholarships) than it is to attend a out of state public school. For example, the cost of attendance (tuition, room+board, etc) at UO for a non resident undergrad is $29,343. I could go on...and on, but I will stop here. If anyone wants more info, feel free to pm me.

Thanks Bennie:
So it appears that the Florwegians will continue to flock to St. Olaf as they are an under represented portion of the studuent population. In return we send TDT to Florida as they need to experience cultural diversity in the form of the President of the Cla$$le$$- A$$hole Club of America