FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[ritz72]

I'm all for the La on Friday!!!  Hamms on Tap, dancing, watching Fins to the Lambada with co-eds 8)

OFS.....I dont LIKES it at all...

Early Ritz line-----SJU in a rout 48-10

lick it, stamp it, send it in!!!

[57Johnnie]

ZIP,
You got it.
How can we lose?
57

[ritz72]

A thought on the smaller playoff crowds: it isn't so much the cold as the ticket prices. Students will show up to just about any game if they don't have to pay. Once the NC$$ starts charging, though, they're less likely to go to the game. It's a real shame, though, as the playoff competition is considerably better than the regular season competition and [usually] well worth the money.

They will come!!!!!

[AnotherJohnnie]

With all of the $$ talk lately, I was curious to see just how much the DIII football playoffs cost the NCAA.  (This is all for 02-03 since they do not have more recent data.)  The only DIII championship, men or women, to lose more money is baseball.  Football lost ~715k.  All DIII mens sports lost 4.5M, roughly the same for women. 

Taking away per diem (~250k) and travel (~500k), the games themselves come out just out of the red.

To break even, hosts would have to pitch in ~26k per game (based on 27 games that year, and not keep any ticket revenue) or attendance would have to increase by an average of more than 3500 fans per game.

I don't have any intelligent conclusions to draw from this right now, but I though it was interesting.

[ritz72]

Sell more Orville Reddenbachers!

[ritz72]

The sweet sweet taste of Karmal is soon to be mine!!!

[Kilted Rat]

Maybe we could put a Target logo on the side of the Palaestra....

or better yet, let people pay $1 each to attack the impending Hideous Hilton on the Sag with a sledge hammer... $1 per hit.

I'm in for $20 if it prevents that monstrosity from becoming a reality.

[Pat Coleman]

AJ,
I think I remember something about the NCAA not releasing attendance figures for play-off games.

They release attendance figures for playoff games.

[57Johnnie]

PC,
Congratulations on yesterday's high water mark!
57

[TC]

Also, the game over Thanksgiving weekend tends to suck attendance-wise as very few students are on campus, and most people have families.

...

So, yeah, it was brought up on this board last week that my lil' sister attends UST.  I met her for lunch on Friday.  This is because she wasn't going to the game on Saturday.  As I'm sure a bunch of you noticed, a lot of UST-ites didn't go to the game on Saturday.  I'm sure they all had their reasons.  My sister's?  "I don't like football."   Um, yeah...    See, I don't like soccer.  I don't like women's basketball.  I don't like wrestling.  I don't like track meets.  But you can be damn sure if there is a CSB/SJU team playing a UST team in one of these things, and the event is reasonably convenient, I will be there supporting the red team.  Not because I care if some SJU student who I don't know can run a 100 meters faster than the jackass in purple, but because they're St. Thomas and we're St. John's and, dammit, we have the best rivalry in the MIAC.  Or had the best rivalry.  And the football game used to be front and center.  But is it even a rivalry if one team not only stopped winning, but also stopped caring?  

Hey, we're happy for you being able to make some amusing t-shirts.  Trust me, I wasn't happy  when CSB got the all-you-can-eat ice cream machines, either.  And I know, you have girls and we have monks.  That's awesome.  But you know what was really funny?  They way your creative, purple shirts stood out in the sea of red.  AT YOUR HOME STADIUM.  I can see how your football team would struggle.  I'd be embarrassed bringing a recruit into that environment, too.  

I know this rant is going to fall on deaf ears.  I'm sure you all have better things to do--weekly penicillan shots, walking the mile and a half from the nearest parking spot to your dorm room, cramming for the business admin class that will prepare you for an unfullfilling life in middle management.  But you are ruining a great rivalry.  Show up for the game, even if your team doesn't.

...

I don't have much to say about the game last Saturday.  They looked a little sloppy, and that has to stop, but obviously the game was never in doubt.  Either Ubbelohde is the Blake Elliott of Linebacking, the rest of the UST-D  (get it?) sucks, or he gets credited for making a tackle if he is within 30 feet of the ball.  It's likely a combination of the three.  Regardless, Monmouth should be a good warm-up game in the first round.  If they are anything like their MWC predecessors, they will be feisty enough to keep the game competitive at first, but no real threat in the end.  I just hope they have a dancing Tight End.

As far as the (potential) second rounder with Whitewater, isn't this one of the annual pleasures of the D3 playoff experience?  We will get to hear about how balanced, talented and tough the WIAC is on a week-to-week basis.  We will hear about how this Whitewater team is the first to make it through this gauntlet unscathed in years, and how that has undoubtedly prepared them for a long run in the playoffs.  And we will hear about how their offensive line outweighs the Johnnies', Badgers', and Packers' lines--Combined.  (Of course, there will be no mention of how this line is less mobile than a pack of quadrapalegics and dumber than the Augsburg Wrestling team.)  In the end, the WIAC team will lose to the smaller, less traveled, less tested, quicker, better prepared Johnnies.  And this year it will happen on their home turf, which will make it that much sweeter.  Yeah, we've seen this story before, and we know how it ends.

And the third round--this is the game everyone wants, isn't it?  We're in the West, they're in the West, let's play a football game and see who is better.  If it goes beyond that, great.  Should be a fun run, can't wait until Saturday.

[finsleft]

Ritz, in a shameful run-up of posts to get to 200, has now taken it on the road to the Midwest Conference board, with offers to be a tour guide to the poor Presbyterians from Illinois. Check it out.
They're all going to end up in the Camp Bar with herring in their beers!

[sju56321]

Monmouth has the best QB in DIII. Look:

1 Mitch Tanney, Monmouth (Ill.) Sr. QB 10 262 195 3 2469 33 192.9
2 Brett Elliott, Linfield Sr. QB 7 227 154 5 2250 30 190.3

Better than Elliott, according to the NCAA.

Against SJU:               
Total Defense (228 ranked) 4   
Pass Efficiency Defense (228 ranked) 5

[Mr.Shoes]

TC = Karma++

Brilliant, my friend, brilliant!

[Mr.Shoes]

Monmouth has the best QB in DIII. Look:

1 Mitch Tanney, Monmouth (Ill.) Sr. QB 10 262 195 3 2469 33 192.9
2 Brett Elliott, Linfield Sr. QB 7 227 154 5 2250 30 190.3

Better than Elliott, according to the NCAA.

I just ran across his stats on the SCTimes site (yes, I like to torture myself with that newspaper on occasion, but only because the STrib and PP don't acknowledge the existence of DIII football) and was quite impressed with the grand total of 3 INTs. It should be VERY interesting to see how much time Dumo and Good feel like giving this fella to throw and what happens as a result. A pick-six from the Z-man, mayhaps?

[sjusection105]

TC- Great points & well thought out! You forgot 1 thing Tommies Suck