FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OzJohnnie]

BTW, even though Bethel is an inferior school to SJU in every single respect (that was a demonstration of arrogance), I expect them to put their best game on against MUC.  If figure it will be a relatively close (in MUC terms), but well played defeat for BU.

MUC 38 - BU 21.

[GoldandBlueBU]

I love my family and BV as well.  You do not see me standing on the street telling everyone I have the best wife in the world. 

There is a huge difference between school pride/spirit and arrogance. 

So, how can us chardonnay sipping beamer drivers tell the difference between pride and arrogance?  Wait a second, I gotta crack open a new bottle before I can take the effort to read your response.  OK... I'm ready now.

And if guy can't say here, on the MIAC PP boards, that he thinks his school is the best, where can he?  Locked in a closet?

(And are you really taking this conversation seriously?)

I agree, everyone thinks their school is the best, and to each individual, for different reasons, it probably was the best school to/for them.  Bethel is the best school to me, and that doesn't take a thing away from SJU being the best to others, Olaf to others, etc.

[TC]

I love my family and BV as well.  You do not see me standing on the street telling everyone I have the best wife in the world. 

There is a huge difference between school pride/spirit and arrogance. 

So, how can us chardonnay sipping beamer drivers tell the difference between pride and arrogance?  Wait a second, I gotta crack open a new bottle before I can take the effort to read your response.  OK... I'm ready now.

And if guy can't say here, on the MIAC PP boards, that he thinks his school is the best, where can he?  Locked in a closet?

(And are you really taking this conversation seriously?)

I agree, everyone thinks their school is the best, and to each individual, for different reasons, it probably was the best school to/for them.  Bethel is the best school to me, and that doesn't take a thing away from SJU being the best to others, Olaf to others, etc.

Hey now, let's not go needlessly grouping Augsburg grads in with the rest of us...

[Klopenhiemer]

I love my family and BV as well.  You do not see me standing on the street telling everyone I have the best wife in the world. 

There is a huge difference between school pride/spirit and arrogance. 

So, how can us chardonnay sipping beamer drivers tell the difference between pride and arrogance?  Wait a second, I gotta crack open a new bottle before I can take the effort to read your response.  OK... I'm ready now.

And if guy can't say here, on the MIAC PP boards, that he thinks his school is the best, where can he?  Locked in a closet?

(And are you really taking this conversation seriously?)

OZ +k to you.  That was outstanding.  Not taking the conversation serriously at all.  Just wanted to rile up the MN boys.  Figured I could make some stupid and ignorant statments to get some good rebutles

BUENA VISTA RULES

[repete]

Yikes, a little more of this and we're going to have to install designated sarcasm or tongue-in-cheek fonts for the dimmer bulbs.

I'm suggesting purple for your Tommie friends.

[shakenbake35]

While my dislike for Bethel has been well documented even I took offense to this.  Everyone who I know that dislikes SJU (and GASP!!! there are a lot of people who do) dislike them because attitudes like this post.  i.e. SJU is better just because they're SJU.  Wow! seriously drink more koolaid, donkey!

Trust a GAC alum to fly the flag of rationality.  No attitude of 'my school right or wrong' at that place.   Oh no.  It's interesting that you framed your attitude in terms of what you disliked, while I framed mine in terms of what I like.  No positivism in your life, I guess.

If drinking kool-aid means I take pride in an institution that consistently generates good men, not to mention good teams, then pass the jug.  If drinking kool-aid means I can see and take pride in the fact that SJU has a football program and institutional culture that is inherently better than anything else on offer in the region, then pass the jug.  But if giving up the kool-aid means I must admit John is a figurehead, an all mens school is odd and that SJU is less than the perfect fit for me, then no thanks.  You can keep your drinks.  I'm not interested, jackass.

Drinking kool-aid = Thinking you and SJU are better than others due to dominance of a Division 3 conference and periodic runs deep into the playoffs.

You err SJU are good at football congratulations I hope it helps you sleep better at night!!  SJU definitely was a good fit for you as arrogant jackasses like yourself would not have been a good fit at GAC or any of the other colleges I am familiar with.  Oh and as far as positivism goes, I am positive I loved my time at GAC and am glad I didn't go anywhere else.  I am also positive that my degree helped me get a promotion ahead of Johnnies, and once again I am positive your supposed sarcasm you at least partially believe making you a d-d-donkey.   And if I am totally wrong my bad but I don't think I am.

p.s.  Although Bethel would be my last choice I am glad to see a MIAC team representing the West.

p.s.s.  Good luck Bethel, you're going to need it.

[cobbernation]

Anyone happen to hear what June Jones head coach at Hawaii said about the Heisman race?

His quote clearly stated that Colt Brennan is the best quarterback in the country and the only reason he doesn't get the hype is because hawaii is in the WAC.  He calls Tim Tebow a system quarterback.

He is also upset about their sugar bowl bid.  He wants a shot at OSU or LSU.  Does an undefeated team in D-1 deserve a national title bid despite which conference they play in?  Did Boise State's win vs. Oklahoma last year mean nothing?  I say this because if you play in the WAC, a D1 school you can't set the ultimate goal as to winning a national title because your team won't get the chance.  Is this a fair decision by the computer that picks which team plays in certain bowl games?

[OzJohnnie]

...arrogant jackasses like yourself...

Responding to this charge is beneath me and not worth my efforts.

[repete]

Hawaii could have helped itself by not scheduling Northern Colorado, UNLV, Charleston Southern and a struggling Washington program for its NC games ...

[shakenbake35]

Anyone happen to hear what June Jones head coach at Hawaii said about the Heisman race?

His quote clearly stated that Colt Brennan is the best quarterback in the country and the only reason he doesn't get the hype is because hawaii is in the WAC.  He calls Tim Tebow a system quarterback.

He is also upset about their sugar bowl bid.  He wants a shot at OSU or LSU.  Does an undefeated team in D-1 deserve a national title bid despite which conference they play in?  Did Boise State's win vs. Oklahoma last year mean nothing?  I say this because if you play in the WAC, a D1 school you can't set the ultimate goal as to winning a national title because your team won't get the chance.  Is this a fair decision by the computer that picks which team plays in certain bowl games?

Does Hawaii have their own koolaid?   Seriously though I do think it is ridiculous to go undefeated and not even have the opportunity to win it all.  Unfortunately from what I have read we may never see a playoff format at the D-1A level.

Repete Hawaii needs to either pay NC opponents to fly out to paradise or go there.  Either way a strain on the finances as well as decreasing the likelihood of getting better competition (supposedly, which I don't believe but have heard on more than one occasion, because better competition does not want to have the potential carry-over affect of the mass amount of travel to the next week)

[Redtooth]

Having lost karma today by posting two videos and no mention of Bethel, I thought I would add my favorite football motivational speech of all-time to get our friends from Bethel ready for Saturday......enjoy   This is the sort of intensity that only happens in football country......I checked Mount Union's roster to see if they had any players in the locker room that night....none listed.  The team in the video was QBd by Chad Henne of University of Michigan fame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BFmsOkjt_8

[sjusection105]

Hawaii could have helped itself by not scheduling Northern Colorado, UNLV, Charleston Southern and a struggling Washington program for its NC games ...

But they'll have to get in line behind the Gophers to play the likes of North Dakota Animal Husbandry College, Manitoba Flax and Canola Research Institute and the Minnesota School of Vision Impaired World War II Vets.

[sjusection105]

Having lost karma today by posting two videos and no mention of Bethel, I thought I would add my favorite football motivational speech of all-time to get our friends from Bethel ready for Saturday......enjoy   This is the sort of intensity that only happens in football country......I checked Mount Union's roster to see if they had any players in the locker room that night....none listed.  The team in the video was QBd by Chad Henne of University of Michigan fame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BFmsOkjt_8

+K Redtooth, I was waiting for Danny to show the coach how much pride he actually had in Wilson Football

[OzJohnnie]

Having lost karma today by posting two videos and no mention of Bethel, I thought I would add my favorite football motivational speech of all-time to get our friends from Bethel ready for Saturday......enjoy   This is the sort of intensity that only happens in football country......I checked Mount Union's roster to see if they had any players in the locker room that night....none listed.  The team in the video was QBd by Chad Henne of University of Michigan fame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BFmsOkjt_8

Phhhhbbbbbt!  Two karma points.  Child's play.  I got hammered six by just saying SJU is "better" than BU (responding to a challenge that it wasn't) and then defending the position.  Even friggin' Dutch supporters had to get in on the act.  It's not enough that their wrong, but they gotta go around pounding karma in support of their flaccid rhetorical efforts.

As to the vid, I have never been persuaded by the "unhinged rage as a motivational technique" thing.   Hell Week at bootcamp was a surreal experience in that respect.  My most vivid memory of boot was of three minutes early Sunday morning following Hell Week's yelling and screaming and intimidation and sleepless nights, etc.  The company stood around in a circle while Lee Greenwood's "Proud to be an American" played over a stereo.  Probably 80% of the men broke down in tears and collapsed under the stress/relief.  I may not be personally persuaded, but I can't deny it motivates many and builds camaraderie.

[TC]

What's that?  You all want to hear about how I'd revamp the NCAA Football Bowl Subdivision Postseason?  Well gosh, you should have asked sooner.  Luckily, I had a sweet 6 hour drive home from Pella, Iowa a couple of weeks ago to get all of this figured out.  Here's what I'd do:

TEAMS:  There would be an 8(+) team playoff.  The first way for a team to gain entrance is to go undefeated against a schedule or at least 10 FBS (I-A) teams.  The second way to gain entrance is to be the season champion in the Big Ten, Pac-10, ACC, SEC, Big 12 or Big East.  In the event that these two methods of selecting teams does not fill the BCS field, the next highest team or teams in the BCS rankings would receive at-large bids. 

The teams would be seeded based on their final BCS ratings.  In the event that the combination of BCS Conference champions and undefeated teams exceeds 8, the lowest seeded teams would play each other in play-in games until the field has been thinned to 8 teams.  (8 hosts 9 if 9 teams qualify, 7 hosts 10 and 8 hosts 9 if 10 teams qualify, etc.)

GAMES:  Some traditional bowl games would become playoff games.  The bowls would be tiered as follows:

Tier I: BCS National Championship Game

Tier II: Sugar, Orange, Rose and Fiesta Bowls

Tier III: Gator, Cotton, Outback and Holiday Bowls

The BCS National Championship Game will always be the championship game.  The Tier II Bowls would alternate--in even years the Sugar and Orange Bowls would be Semifinal games while the Rose and Fiesta Bowls would be Quarterfinal games.  In odd years, the roles would be reversed.

Similarly, the Tier III bowls would alternate annually between Quaterfinal games and either Play-In games or hosting at-large teams seperate from the playoff system, depending on how many teams qualify for the BCS tournament.

In the Quarterfinal and Semifinal rounds, the highest seeded team will always "host" the lowest seeded team.  By "hosting" the game, they get to choose the Bowl at which their game will be played.  Choices are made in descending seed order.

THOUGHTS:  I think this system makes this most sense because it really fits everyone's needs.  The major conferences are guarenteed to get their top team anywhere from 1 to 3 more high-profile games.  Non-BCS conferences have a clear route to the playoffs: win all of your games and you are in. 

The Tier II Bowls will still be considered the most prestigious of all non-Championship Game bowls, while the Tier III get a semi-annual chance to be truly elite bowls. 

The BCS maintains a major role in deciding the national champion as it is integral in both deciding who makes the field as well as how the teams are seeded once they are chosen.

TV networks can't help but win--the best teams will have two additional games, while the only teams denied games will be a handful of crappy teams that miss out on a bowl invite at the bottom of the bowl ladder.

Most of all, the fans win because the teams that legitimately have a claim to the title will get to decide it on the field.

2007 UNDER THIS SYSTEM: Here's a look at how this year's tournament might look, assuming the higher seeds win out in the first two rounds:

The Field:
1. Ohio State (Big Ten)
2. LSU (SEC)
3. Virginia Tech (ACC)
4. Oklahoma (Big 12)
5. Georgia (At-Large)
6. USC (Pac-10)
7. West Virginia (Big East)
8. Hawaii (Undefeated)

Quarterfinals:
Ohio State hosts Hawaii at the Rose Bowl
LSU hosts West Virginia at the Fiesta Bowl
Virginia Tech hosts USC at the Gator Bowl
Oklahoma hosts Georgia at the Cotton Bowl

(Assuming the higher seeds hold...)
Semifinals:
Ohio State hosts Oklahoma at the Orange Bowl
LSU hosts Virginia Tech at the Sugar Bowl




So, what changes should be made?  What did I miss?