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Kilted Rat

Just because Oxy couldn't stop them doesn't mean Concordia can't!

Oxy came in giving up 20.7 a game against a relatively unoffensive schedule (Out of conference opponents Colorado college 2-8, Lewis and Clark 0-4, and Chapman 2-7).

Cobbers have shown they can shut down a powerful offense (SJU averaging 43.5) for 3.9 quarters or they can score with a high flying offense if they need to (49 pts against St. Olaf).

Additionally, the cobbers have a multi-dimensional offense that doesn't revolve entirely around one guy. From talking to people at the game, Collins was a man on an island and your defense didn't do much to give him a chance.

Don't worry about the Cobbers, they'll be just fine. Worry about what Oxy can do to avoid having Linfield end their season for the 3rd year in a row next year.
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OXY Oswald

Quote from: kiltedrat on November 20, 2005, 07:58:30 PM
Oxy came in giving up 20.7 a game against a relatively unoffensive schedule
The starters are out in the majority of our games by the third quarter and teams put up points in garbage time.

Quote from: kiltedrat on November 20, 2005, 07:58:30 PM
Additionally, the cobbers have a multi-dimensional offense that doesn't revolve entirely around one guy. From talking to people at the game, Collins was a man on an island
Well good luck defending Linfield's 1-dimensional offense.  It should be easy, right?

By the way, other than Andy...

we also have strong recieving core led by Josh Jones (with over 1000 yds recieving and 16 touchdowns) who is followed closely by Ric Fukashima who was slowed down by a mid-season injury. 

and..

two backs with a combined 1200 yds rushing and over 20 touchdowns (Matt Andersen and Ryan Gonzales)
Go TIGERS!!!

Tough days for Tiger Football.

Kilted Rat

Linfield fans I talked to said your QB was "the only weapon they had... if he had some help it might have been a closer game."

You think concordia plays their starters all game every game? Don't give me the "our starters are out most games" bull, then your 2nd or 3rd string defense is weak.

SJU's starters especially on defense are usually done about that same time frame and we still only give up 12.0 ppg. including garbage time. Good teams and good defenses perform the whole game whether it be starters or back-ups.

I never said defending Linfield would be easy, however Elliott has help and doesn't have to scramble for his life every play.

All the offensive firepower in the world will be hard pressed to overcome a sieve defense. Oxy demonstrated that well.


Don't try to predict how another team will do against Linfield. Your defense isn't as good as Concordia's GUARANTEED. I will fly to wherever in Cali you are to personally apologize for being wrong if Linfield comes even close to putting up 63 on the cobbers.

Enjoy your offseason and quit being bitter. Oxy's done and they got blown out. That's no reason to think that the same will happen to Concordia.
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Whoa Nelly

Quote from: cawcdad on November 20, 2005, 06:16:01 PM
There is an old adage that says "If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it." So that you may all learn from history, I will present it here in the form of acumulative season stats through the first round of the playoffs. The number following any average is the NCAA ranking as of the end of the regular season. No number indicates a ranking not in the top 35. These are from the two schools respective web sites and the NCAA web site. Thanks to Kelly bird SID at Linfield and Jim Cella SID Concordia-Moorhead

Passing:
Linfield Offense 368.3 ypg  #5  Cobber Defense  202.9 ypg
Cobber Offense  116.3 ypg     Linfield Defense  234.6 ypg
Linfield has only given up 3 sacks all season.
The only teams that were able to put up relatively big numbers on the Cats were Oxy #12 and Whitworth #18 in the nation in passing.

Running:
Linfield Offense  128.9 ypg            Cobber Defense 75.3 ypg  #11
Cobber Offense 311.8 ypg  #5   Linfield Defense 83.2 ypg  #8
UPS was #13 and Willamette #18 and were held well below their season averages by the Cat D.

Scoring:
Linfield Offense 50.9 ppg  #1   Cobber Defense 15.9 ppg  #34
Cobber Offense 33.6 ppg          Linfield Defense 14.3 ppg  #14
The starting defense has given up more than one TD only twice this year, to Whitworth and Oxy. Oxy was #14 and Whitworth #19 in scoring. See also passing stats above.


Total Offense vs Total Defense:
Linfield Offense 497.2 ypg #15     Cobber Defense 278.2 ypg  #35
Cobber Offense 428.1 ypg  #34 Linfield Defense 317.8 ypg
Oxy was #10, Whitworth was #14, and PLU was #21 In total offense. They got some yardage, but alas not enough scoring

Turnover Margin:
Linfield +22  #1   Cobbers +5

Linfield's tremendous defense, the Cobbers weak passing game, travel over across half the country on a holiday weekend and the Catdome faithful will lead to a Wildcat win and berth in the quarterfinals .

I've said it before, I'll say it again - 47.8% of all statistics are inaccurate...
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Wildcat'64

If 47.8% are inaccurate that means 52.2% are accurate....I might be a little concerned about Saturday's outcoming going in knowing that 52.2% of the stats are evidently accurate! :)
LEAVE NO DOUBT

Whoa Nelly

Quote from: Wildcat'64 on November 20, 2005, 10:01:15 PM
If 47.8% are inaccurate that means 52.2% are accurate....I might be a little concerned about Saturday's outcoming going in knowing that 52.2% of the stats are evidently accurate! :)

There obviously wasn't a 400 level Sarcasm course at Linfield in 1964...
"The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard."

Charlie Kohawk

Congrats Cobbies, and thanks for the hospitality. For the record, the hat tasted suspiciously like Kentucky Fried Chicken.
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Kilted Rat

Quote from: Wildcat'64 on November 20, 2005, 10:01:15 PM
If 47.8% are inaccurate that means 52.2% are accurate....I might be a little concerned about Saturday's outcoming going in knowing that 52.2% of the stats are evidently accurate! :)

But you have to factor in the fact that 83.76% of all statistics are made up on the spot. That multiplied by the 52.2% accuracy rating means that roughly 9% of all statistics are true and accurate.
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Cord Glory

Just thought I would say thanks for the Johnnies to come to bat for us this week despite all of the talk about the "inevitable" Linfield - St. Johns matchup.  Its good to see that we can together enjoy the continued success of the MIAC in D3 Football.

As far as Linfield goes, its pretty safe to say the Cobbs have not seen an offense with this much firepower in a long time, but I'll also say that Linfield hasn't seen a defense like Cobbers this year. And if they happen to beat us, they still will  see an even better defense next week against St. Johns.  On paper, everyone is looking for a blowout, but I have tremendous confidence in the scheming ability of the staff at Concordia, and as they say "Thats why we play the game."


And with all this stat talk, I'd like to quote 40-year Concordia Coach Bob Nick -

"The only thing stats sheets are good for is starting a fire."
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bluenote

#3699
So.... from what everybody has mentioned it sounds like both the Mutated Corn Cobbs and the SJU Studcakes have a bye this week.   :P

johnniebread

Both the Cobbs and Johnnies know what they are up against, but I assure you neither are scared to play anyone....period.

cobbernation

Johnny fans thanks for the support as we prepare to take on the linny this weekend.  Not sure why the Oxy fans are mad at the Cobbs, we didn't thrash em on Sat. it was Linfield.  Oxy you didn't help yourself by turning over the ball twice in the 1st half.  It's ok there is always next year and the cobbs and johnnies are on to the 2nd round.

Johnnies I think that you guys have a great chance of beating the warhawks.  I will make my prediction later in the week, but I have confidence in you guys giving the hawks a stomp.  Good Luck.  

I forgot whoever posted the stats on the previous page, but stats don't mean anything.  Just numbers on paper and thats it.  The game will be played out and I have confidence that the cobbers can defeat the cats.  GO COBBERS!  and Good Luck Johnnies.

bluenote

OK...I give up . The Eaten Corn Cobbs will loose by 42 and SJU will win by 65. Now do you feel better?

OzJohnnie

#3703
Quote from: bluenote on November 20, 2005, 11:03:13 PM
So.... from what everybody has mentioned it sounds like both the Mutated Corn Cobbs and the SJU Studcakes have a bye this week.   :P

Despite the smiley, I thinking that line of argument is lame.  The argument being that if the Cobbs or Johnnies don't concede defeat then they must be invincible.  Lame-o-rama.  It's a sign that Cord Glory's argument is irrefutable.  At least by bluenote.

Cord Glory claims Linfield hasn't seen the quality of the Cobber D.  Well have they?  If not then there is a point, no?

If I were from Linfield (and thank goodness I'm not, otherwise I would apparently be unable to refute an argument) I would be thinking, 'Our big gun likes to throw the long ball, the Cobbers only loss came to a long ball.  is there a problem with their D or was it a momentary lapse?'
  

bluenote

...too bad your whole argument is lame. It wasn't a smiley face I posted.....   :o