FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[57Johnnie]

What a sick state of mind when you believe as a member of God's chosen few that you have nothing better to do than search the country for bad news and then drive hundreds of miles just to aggravate an already terrible situation.

These are the God hates Phags people, according to these aholes everyone is going to hell but them.

I have a full time job addressing the terrible situation I face every morning when I look in the mirror shaving. Maybe God's chosen few should try that once in a while.

[footballfan413]

I have been searching for the D3 Healthcare debate board for a long time...thankfully I've finally found it...

Hey, it is the off season afterall.  You might just learn something.  I know I did.   

[bennie]

The morning show guys on the radio station I listen to were talking about this story. I thought you guys might get a chuckle from it.

"Residents of a an unfortunately named village are being plagued by vandals who graffiti the sign 'Welcome to Lunt' - guess what they keep changing it to.

Fed up with seeing an offensive word as they return home locals have now started a campaign to change the name of the village.

Suggestions for the new name include Launt which would be pronounced the same and stop the yobs who repeatedly change the L to a C." 

http://newslite.tv/2008/04/welcome-to-lunt-where-vandals.html

[snoop dawg]

bennie.....the polish is out, the butter is gettin' hard, the jello is jigglin' and the igloo door is about to close!

Most of that is a paraphrase from our gone but beloved Chick Hearn, Minn...oooppps...LA Laker announcer.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Oz, I apologize if my posts were unclear enough to come off as guilty of the logical fallacies you cited (as I later posted, I should have been in bed hours earlier!).  I often lectured on logical fallacies, and do not believe I was guilty of ad populum.  Several posters had cited problems (or in Ralph's case, a fatal horror story) with Canadian or British health care as an argument against single-payer systems.  I merely sought to note that the overwhelming majority of voters in those countries obviously feel that, whatever very real problems may exist, on balance they still prefer them to the American model.

The CEOs of insurance companies are undoubtedly better prepared to run a business than nameless bureaucrats, but I reject the notion that health decisions should be a business.  To the extent that it inevitably is, would you prefer your health decisions controlled by someone whose ultimate bosses you can vote upon, or by a guy whose profit margin is dependent upon denying you the care you have paid for?  (While it makes sense in an accounting way, I find it telling that insurance companies refer to providing the product their customers have paid for as 'losses'.)  I reject the idea that health care decisions are comparable to IT or automotive 'businesses'.

I am not basing my argument on the (obscene) 'earnings' of insurance company CEOs, not even on the profits of insurance companies.  But that does represent a huge markup in medical costs.  Probably at least equally costly is the necessity of each and every medical care provider knowing the rules of dozens of different insurances, and processing (often very different) claims for each.  Ralph could speak to this better than I, but I'd imagine he has at least one employee who does nothing but this task.  Many more billions of 'health care' dollars that have nothing to do with providing health care!

BTW, I accept your challenge on government vs. private sector.  Post-Katrina, I'm obviously not going to defend FEMA in its current incarnation, but prior to the Supreme Court's coup d'etat in 2000 to install King George, it was actually a pretty efficient agency.  My wife has a (part-time) online business, and has had far fewer problems with USPS than with UPS or other carriers.  And I happen to like PBS far more than most commercial broadcasters - so sue me!

[Mr. Ypsi]

I would like to quickly and genuinely complement Ypsi on gamely trying what I counted as full on 5 1/2 on 1 argument.  It usually seems like it's the other way around when I get into these things - refreshing change for me.

Thanks.  But nothing I didn't expect taking what most see as a 'liberal' postion on a football board!  (I thought perhaps Minnesota, with its progressive traditions, would be different, but my main 'opponents' have been a Texan and an Aussie! )

As a former lecturers' union organizer, I've been in more lopsided battles.  After one particularly inflammatory flyer, I earned the undying enmity of my dean.  My job was saved only because my DH (who was the dean's best friend) had no one else who actually liked teaching statistics to students who would have preferred Guantanamo to stats!

[57Johnnie]

Back to important things like DIII Football, beer, fishing, beer, hockey, beer, Stiftungfest, beer, walleyes & catfish, beer, football in OZ, beer etc.
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I forgot sex & beer  but I'm older than most (I mean all) of you folks.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Ralph,

I clicked on the link you provided, but couldn't locate a full explanations of Goodman's proposal.  I'm intrigued by the notion of HSAs, as long as there are backups for those who cannot afford them, and for catastrophic situations.  (e.g., most years I would undoubtedly be better off, but my first son resulted from an emergency C-section - at that point of my life, no savings program would have allowed us to survive financially.)

[OzJohnnie]

...but prior to the Supreme Court's coup d'etat in 2000 to install King George...

Well as long as you've had your sleep and are now rational...

Hawks take on the Crows this weekend.  Should be a good game.

[snoop dawg]

Geeez guys.......what happened to talking about walleye, hockey, football, dancing monkeys and most importantly.......BEER?

[OzJohnnie]

Here's a pretty good ad that has just hit the TV here in OZ, "The True History of Australia".

The narrator puts on a pretty strong Aussie accent at times just to make it authentic.

And in the greatest tradition of dry Australian sarcasm, here is the king of dry humor beer adds.  It's most famous for the "More horses!" bit.

[OzJohnnie]

And I was surfing around youtube and found this guy's compilation of the top 10 Aussie beer adds of all time.  He makes some pretty good choices, except for number 9, I think.

[finsleft]

You guys have worn me out this week. I think it's time to go home, have a beer, cook up some walleye, watch some hockey, think about football and call some women.

[Gray Fox]

Geeez guys.......what happened to talking about walleye, hockey, football, dancing monkeys and most importantly.......BEER?

Another American voter has spoken.

[57Johnnie]

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/58084