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WithasilentK

Quote from: cobbernation on November 02, 2009, 12:54:12 PM
It's hard to believe that the vikings are 7-1 going into their bye week and reading previous posts it seems like they are 3-4.  The vikings defense seems to dip in the 2nd half of most of this seasons games.  However, we do have Favre at qb and can win the close games.  If we didn't have Favre we would NOT have beat San Fran or Baltimore.  His $12 million salary has got the vikings 2 incredible wins and a nice cushion in the NFC North.  Also, don't be surprised if childress gets an extension this week.

Why do people always assume this?  If we didn't have Favre we wouldn't have been in the San Fran situation at the end.  He played 2 or 3 terrible quarters before having a great last drive.  I agree we may not be 7-1 right now, but I don't think we are worse than 5-3 with TJack in there.

Favre has played great this year, yes, but its not like we'd be 0-8 without him.

WithasilentK

Quote from: USTBench on November 02, 2009, 05:30:09 PM
Quote from: sjusection105 on November 02, 2009, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 02, 2009, 02:00:05 PM
I know we've still got several days leading up to the game...but I'm interested in previews on the BU - UST game from anyone who has seen both teams.  I haven't been to any UST games yet, so other than reading about them on here, I don't know that much about them.


I would say the BU defense is better than UST.

BU would be better off if Aakre can play. BU would also be better off Morse was playing QB for UST.

The RB game goes to Flannery.

The return game goes to UST.

I think Dakota Tracy adds a new element to the running game that wasn't as prevalent before. Tobin is starting to shoulder more of the load as well...and is a more effective runner between the the tackles than Wartman. Conservative estimate:

UST 72 Bethel 3

That sounds about right but...

Until Tracy shows he can pass better than Morse (which was bad), UST still has a lot of work to do against Bethel's D.  Bethel's corners love to sell out for the pick (how many times can you get pre-season All-American but not actual All-American before people realize you aren't that good?) and this normally hurts them, but with an inexperienced QB in there, with a not-so-great arm, they could grab a couple big interceptions.

stanbob

 I saw in the Milwaukee paper this morning, or perhaps the Green Bay one, where four years ago McCarthy was the bright up and coming young coach and Childress was the dummy, now Favre has joined the Vikings and the situation is reversed.  Coincidence?  I think not.
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USTBench

Quote from: WithasilentK on November 02, 2009, 05:42:46 PM
Quote from: USTBench on November 02, 2009, 05:30:09 PM
Quote from: sjusection105 on November 02, 2009, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 02, 2009, 02:00:05 PM
I know we've still got several days leading up to the game...but I'm interested in previews on the BU - UST game from anyone who has seen both teams.  I haven't been to any UST games yet, so other than reading about them on here, I don't know that much about them.


I would say the BU defense is better than UST.

BU would be better off if Aakre can play. BU would also be better off Morse was playing QB for UST.

The RB game goes to Flannery.

The return game goes to UST.

I think Dakota Tracy adds a new element to the running game that wasn't as prevalent before. Tobin is starting to shoulder more of the load as well...and is a more effective runner between the the tackles than Wartman. Conservative estimate:

UST 72 Bethel 3

That sounds about right but...

Until Tracy shows he can pass better than Morse (which was bad), UST still has a lot of work to do against Bethel's D.  Bethel's corners love to sell out for the pick (how many times can you get pre-season All-American but not actual All-American before people realize you aren't that good?) and this normally hurts them, but with an inexperienced QB in there, with a not-so-great arm, they could grab a couple big interceptions.

The difference is composure. And Tracy can deliver a decent ball when he has to. Morse throws a good ball in low pressure situations. I.E. throwing strikes all over Hamline. But UST needs a QB with ice water in his veins. A gamer. I'm not saying UST would've beat SJU with Tracy in the mix, but I think there would've been a greater chance for a victory. Morse got rattled by the pressure and was throwing all over the place even when he had time. That being said, I hope Morse can turn it around, because he is really talented.
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Northern WinterHawk

Quote from: USTBench on November 02, 2009, 05:49:59 PM
Quote from: WithasilentK on November 02, 2009, 05:42:46 PM
Quote from: USTBench on November 02, 2009, 05:30:09 PM
Quote from: sjusection105 on November 02, 2009, 03:33:06 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 02, 2009, 02:00:05 PM
I know we've still got several days leading up to the game...but I'm interested in previews on the BU - UST game from anyone who has seen both teams.  I haven't been to any UST games yet, so other than reading about them on here, I don't know that much about them.


I would say the BU defense is better than UST.

BU would be better off if Aakre can play. BU would also be better off Morse was playing QB for UST.

The RB game goes to Flannery.

The return game goes to UST.

I think Dakota Tracy adds a new element to the running game that wasn't as prevalent before. Tobin is starting to shoulder more of the load as well...and is a more effective runner between the the tackles than Wartman. Conservative estimate:

UST 72 Bethel 3

That sounds about right but...

Until Tracy shows he can pass better than Morse (which was bad), UST still has a lot of work to do against Bethel's D.  Bethel's corners love to sell out for the pick (how many times can you get pre-season All-American but not actual All-American before people realize you aren't that good?) and this normally hurts them, but with an inexperienced QB in there, with a not-so-great arm, they could grab a couple big interceptions.

The difference is composure. And Tracy can deliver a decent ball when he has to. Morse throws a good ball in low pressure situations. I.E. throwing strikes all over Hamline. But UST needs a QB with ice water in his veins. A gamer. I'm not saying UST would've beat SJU with Tracy in the mix, but I think there would've been a greater chance for a victory. Morse got rattled by the pressure and was throwing all over the place even when he had time. That being said, I hope Morse can turn it around, because he is really talented.
Morse will get it turned around and you're right; he is a very talented football player & will right his shortcomings.

That said Tracy is in the drivers seat and he DOES add a real twist in an already potent running attack.

UST Defense rules this game; Result = UST 38 BSU 16

tmerton

Quote from: Touchdown Tommy on November 02, 2009, 05:24:46 PM

Closed Circuit to W. Clark: Neither TC or I were alive when Bergen DIED. 

I keep forgetting the material I have to work with here ...  :-[  I need to review the Mindset List.

Here - be educated.  (You probably don't remember the Muppets either.)

TC

Quote from: tmerton on November 02, 2009, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: TC on November 02, 2009, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: tmerton on November 02, 2009, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: cobbernation on November 02, 2009, 12:54:12 PM
Also, don't be surprised if childress gets an extension this week.

They should let him stay as long as Favre does.

Ok, I'm confused again.  Why don't we like Childress now? 

6-10... 8-8... 10-6... (7-1+), KICK ASS OFFENSETM

I'm glad you said "again." 

I don't know why you don't like him, but I don't like bald guys who wear glasses. ;)

So are you playing Charlie McCarthy to TDT's Edgar Bergen?  I see he claims to speak for you.

Don't forget the beard.  But I say until he actually breaks Megan's Law we give the guy the benefit of the doubt.  (Just to be safe, let's not let him be the guest speaker at any elementary or middle schools, though.)

And I'll admit, I've been confused about a lot of stuff around here lately.  The negativity regarding the 7-1 Vikings and, to a lesser extent, the AL Central Division-champion Twins/Joe Nathan.  The insistence that everything's fine in Collegeville because the Johnnies have luckboxed their way to an 8-0 record.  DoucheHawk's inferiority complex and insistence that Central's the greatest D3 team ever assembled and that we can essentially cancel the playoffs this year and crown their asses.  TDT's need to speak on my behalf, as if I'm somehow unable to alienate and anger people on my own.  W. Clark insulting me by comparing me to a person I've never heard of and have no desire to Wiki.  The fact that I find myself agreeing with Pat Coleman and WithasilentK on certain things.  The sad disappearances of finsleft (hunting trip?  Sal's get Hamm's on tap?  finally said f' it and moved to the tropics?), Ritz (waging a vigilent, personal, yet silent protest of the new tailgating rules at St. John's?), and Veek (craft fair?  kids birthday parties?  wedding shower season?  Lamaze class?) from these fair pages.

All of these things have managed to confuse--and yes, anger--me, and I'm not afraid to admit that.

Regarding Bethel v. St. Thomas, I really, really, really hope they both lose.  However, even someone with my rudimentary knowledge of the rules of competitive football knows that this isn't likely.  Surprising no one, I think St. Thomas wins by 10-14 points--and I wouldn't be shocked if they get a rematch in Collegeville on Nov. 28.
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sjusection105

Quote from: TC on November 02, 2009, 07:45:45 PM
Quote from: tmerton on November 02, 2009, 04:03:46 PM
Quote from: TC on November 02, 2009, 03:28:19 PM
Quote from: tmerton on November 02, 2009, 03:16:48 PM
Quote from: cobbernation on November 02, 2009, 12:54:12 PM
Also, don't be surprised if childress gets an extension this week.

They should let him stay as long as Favre does.

Ok, I'm confused again.  Why don't we like Childress now? 

6-10... 8-8... 10-6... (7-1+), KICK ASS OFFENSETM

I'm glad you said "again." 

I don't know why you don't like him, but I don't like bald guys who wear glasses. ;)

So are you playing Charlie McCarthy to TDT's Edgar Bergen?  I see he claims to speak for you.

Don't forget the beard.  But I say until he actually breaks Megan's Law we give the guy the benefit of the doubt.  (Just to be safe, let's not let him be the guest speaker at any elementary or middle schools, though.)

And I'll admit, I've been confused about a lot of stuff around here lately.  The negativity regarding the 7-1 Vikings and, to a lesser extent, the AL Central Division-champion Twins/Joe Nathan.  The insistence that everything's fine in Collegeville because the Johnnies have luckboxed their way to an 8-0 record.  DoucheHawk's inferiority complex and insistence that Central's the greatest D3 team ever assembled and that we can essentially cancel the playoffs this year and crown their asses.  TDT's need to speak on my behalf, as if I'm somehow unable to alienate and anger people on my own.  W. Clark insulting me by comparing me to a person I've never heard of and have no desire to Wiki.  The fact that I find myself agreeing with Pat Coleman and WithasilentK on certain things.  The sad disappearances of finsleft (hunting trip?  Sal's get Hamm's on tap?  finally said f' it and moved to the tropics?), Ritz (waging a vigilent, personal, yet silent protest of the new tailgating rules at St. John's?), and Veek (craft fair?  kids birthday parties?  wedding shower season?  Lamaze class?) from these fair pages.

All of these things have managed to confuse--and yes, anger--me, and I'm not afraid to admit that.

Regarding Bethel v. St. Thomas, I really, really, really hope they both lose.  However, even someone with my rudimentary knowledge of the rules of competitive football knows that this isn't likely.  Surprising no one, I think St. Thomas wins by 10-14 points--and I wouldn't be shocked if they get a rematch in Collegeville on Nov. 28.
You forgot to mention that the Gophers haven't made a meaningful bowl game in nearly 50 years ::)
As of now they're on DOUBLE SECRET Probation!

royal4life

So do people think Otterbein will get in with 2 losses if they lose to Mt. Union?  They lost to a bad team last week.  I would put Bethel over them if they win out.

smedindy

Otterbein's probably done, though I am loathe to call anyone in the OAC "bad". Otterbein definitely was looking ahead and a decent team beat them. (Yes, the 3rd tier of the OAC is decent, unlike Denison or Kenyon where I come from).

I do believe that there may not be a "C" with 2 losses unless hell breaks loose. And the CCIW merry-go-round could break that hell loose.

I do think that 2-loss teams like North Central or Ohio Northern or Otterbein would go ahead of a 2-loss St. Thomas or Bethel. Just my .02.
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TC

Quote from: sjusection105 on November 02, 2009, 08:30:34 PM
You forgot to mention that the Gophers haven't made a meaningful bowl game in nearly 50 years ::)

How dare you besmirch the Sun Bowl's good name?
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Willy Wonka

Does this performance make Hoag more qualified to be Rodgers' backup than the current chumps they have over there? Or was he just blowing 7 kinds of smoke when he was talking about this opportunity leading to his big break in the NFL?...

I guess we'll have to hold our collective breath until he updates his blog. Here's his latest box score, for those who are curious...

http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule/boxscore/2009REG0401
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Retired Old Rat

Quote from: Willy Wonka on November 02, 2009, 11:47:04 PM
Does this performance make Hoag more qualified to be Rodgers' backup than the current chumps they have over there? Or was he just blowing 7 kinds of smoke when he was talking about this opportunity leading to his big break in the NFL?...

I guess we'll have to hold our collective breath until he updates his blog. Here's his latest box score, for those who are curious...

http://www.ufl-football.com/schedule/boxscore/2009REG0401

I'm waiting for the blog entry when he talks about going for a ride with Koren Robinson.
   
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tmerton

Someone give TC a hug.  He needs it.   :-*