FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DuffMan]

So I understand the Johnnie hate for them.

They're easy to hate.

[DuffMan]

Warhawk78, we just need to go back to scores like the good ole days 

Score by Quarters      1  2  3  4   Score
-----------------             -- --  -- --    -----
UW-Whitewater.......  3  7  0  8  -  18       Record: (1-2)
Saint John's Univ......  7  7  7 21  - 42       Record: (2-1,1-0)

                                                UWW      SJU
FIRST DOWNS...................           16       23
RUSHES-YARDS (NET)............        43-200   37-125
PASSING YDS (NET).............          144      355
Passes Att-Comp-Int...........          25-14-1  45-27-1
TOTAL OFFENSE PLAYS-YARDS.....   68-344   82-480
Fumble Returns-Yards..........          0-0      0-0
Punt Returns-Yards............            0-0     5-33
Kickoff Returns-Yards.........            7-126     3-58
Interception Returns-Yards....          1-12     1-10
Punts (Number-Avg)............           7-35.7   4-34.5
Fumbles-Lost..................               1-1      2-0
Penalties-Yards...............              10-90     7-62
Possession Time...............              29:34    30:26
Third-Down Conversions........          5 of 16  6 of 15
Fourth-Down Conversions.......         0 of 1   1 of 4
Red-Zone Scores-Chances.......       1-1      5-6
Sacks By: Number-Yards........         1-31     3-20

[PRF2009A]

I hereby call for more Duffman, finsleft, and The White Silly and less of the dreck that has filled the last 10 pages or so.

I'll do what I can.  Although WithaSilentK and PRF2000 have been mysteriously absent for the majority of this week, so there's not much point in bantering.

Here's to a bonafide MONKEYSTOMP by the Johnnies on Saturday! 

Here's to hoping that Carleton can hang around in this game and build some confidence going into next year.  This season has shown how vital senior leadership is to a D3 football team.  Last year Carleton had a strong senior class with no junior class and they were 30 seconds from a conference championship.  This year they have no senior class and very strong freshman, sophomore, and junior classes and they have struggled mightily...

Prediction time... SJU 38 Carleton 24
SJUs offense will get healthy this game, but Carleton will get a few shots in of their own.  Next year will be a different story.

Interesting Jackrabbit weekend note...

Thomas O'Brien a freshman QB (redshirt?) is starting for SD state as they come to TCF to play the goophies this weekend.  I believe he was close to choosing to go to SJU until he got a scholarship from the rabbits.  He is from Winona and was a teammate of Jeff Gilbertson in high school.

[sumander]

Only one more day until SGF!!!

[SJUrube]

One of the criteria is also results against common opponents. They may be looking at this:

at UW-Whitewater 38, UW-Eau Claire 13
at St. John's 35, UW-Eau Claire 27

at UW-Whitewater 38, UW-River Falls 14
St. John's 28, at UW-River Falls 24

Who knows? Just throwing that out there. The handbook doesn't say "winning percentage against common opponents" -- just "results." So it could be open to interpretation.

Pat - How much liberty does the regional and playoff committees have when looking at "results?"  I have no qualms with UWW being ranked #1 in the West and think they deserve it.  Based on the above common opponent example are the committees able to take into account the SJU played those 2 teams a month before UWW did?  Or that UWW had both games at home?  Once again I'm not angling to put the Johnnies at #1, just trying to get a better read on the selection process.

[stanbob]

Prediction time... SJU 38 Carleton 24
SJUs offense will get healthy this game, but Carleton will get a few shots in of their own.  Next year will be a different story.

Carleton wouldn't score 24 points in two games against St John's this year.

[stanbob]

Prediction time... SJU 38 Carleton 24

Carleton wouldn't score 24 points in two games against St John's this year.

[VOJ]

I hereby call for more Duffman, finsleft, and The White Silly and less of the dreck that has filled the last 10 pages or so.

I'll do what I can.  Although WithaSilentK and PRF2000 have been mysteriously absent for the majority of this week, so there's not much point in bantering.

Here's to a bonafide MONKEYSTOMP by the Johnnies on Saturday! 

Here's to hoping that Carleton can hang around in this game and build some confidence going into next year.  This season has shown how vital senior leadership is to a D3 football team.  Last year Carleton had a strong senior class with no junior class and they were 30 seconds from a conference championship.  This year they have no senior class and very strong freshman, sophomore, and junior classes and they have struggled mightily...

Prediction time... SJU 38 Carleton 24
SJUs offense will get healthy this game, but Carleton will get a few shots in of their own.  Next year will be a different story.

Interesting Jackrabbit weekend note...

Thomas O'Brien a freshman QB (redshirt?) is starting for SD state as they come to TCF to play the goophies this weekend.  I believe he was close to choosing to go to SJU until he got a scholarship from the rabbits.  He is from Winona and was a teammate of Jeff Gilbertson in high school.

38-24 huh...Johnnies have not given up that many points since the second game of the year and have pitched defensive shutouts against teams that beat you, Hamline and Augsburg respectively...

A couple of things spell doom for you...Carleton is last in the league against the run, that plays right into this Johnnies football team's strength...you have the smallest offensive line I have ever seen, the Johnnies pass rush will not give Anderson much time in the pocket, similiar to Brumm at Augsburg.

I really don't see it being a 14 point game...unless is Johnnies 14 Carleton 0, and I think the Johnnies offense with or without Redding can move the football, to the tune of a 28-7 or 38-14 win.

Coach Ramler has done a great job in Northfield, nice win over cross-town rival this year, but I just don't see a 24 point explosion or the Johnnies running attack being thwarted.

[WithasilentK]

I'm here.  I had a couple of shots I was gonna take at the statements of Boyle coming into his own and being a really good starting quarterback, but I decided I didn't want to get stoned this week.

I got lumped together with PRF2009A?!?!  My arguments have been very sound, they just happen to almost always go against the red-tinted SJU fans, which instantly makes my arguments seem illogical/blasphemous  to them.

TC - People have talked about SJU's wins being unimpressive, and I don't know which side to take.  SJU fans can talk about their "domination" of UST all they want, but it was a close game, and I never felt that SJU showed they were the clearly dominant team, if someone can point out to me how that was shown, I would love to see it.  But they still have shown they can beat very good teams in Bethel and UST.

That being said, the SJU defense is VERY good.  I agree completely with that statement.  The SJU defense has always been built around speed in the LB crew, and now they have that with strength to boot.  But one thing that I think could be brought up is the lack of passing offense in the MIAC.  The last two years we have seen some very good QBs and WRs go through the MIAC, this year...nothing.  If there is a weakness in SJU's D, it could be the corners and that could be the factor in the playoffs.

14-17 points could be enough to win some games, but what about the games when it's not, then what happens?

[WithasilentK]

38-24 huh...Johnnies have not given up that many points since the second game of the year and have pitched defensive shutouts against teams that beat you, Hamline and Augsburg respectively...

A couple of things spell doom for you...Carleton is last in the league against the run, that plays right into this Johnnies football team's strength...you have the smallest offensive line I have ever seen, the Johnnies pass rush will not give Anderson much time in the pocket, similiar to Brumm at Augsburg.

I really don't see it being a 14 point game...unless is Johnnies 14 Carleton 0, and I think the Johnnies offense with or without Redding can move the football, to the tune of a 28-7 or 38-14 win.

Coach Ramler has done a great job in Northfield, nice win over cross-town rival this year, but I just don't see a 24 point explosion or the Johnnies running attack being thwarted.

When will people learn that big, fat, slow guys aren't the only people that can play O-line?  Look how it's used: draws, screens, getting them out and moving.  I'm pretty sure there are some injuries on the line, and like I said before, Carleton can't absorb those injuries like other teams until next year.  So that will lead to their line probably getting worked on Saturday, but to say it's because they're small is ridiculous.

I'd be surprised if it's within 3 scores, but I can see Carleton putting up 14 points or so.

[tmerton]

Gotta love it ...

Idaho AD refuses to board Boise St. plane

Idaho athletic director Rob Spear says he declined to board a Horizon Air flight after learning the airplane was painted in Boise State's blue and orange colors.

Spear was traveling to Boise on Saturday for fundraising events. He requested another flight and then drove about 90 miles north to fly from the Spokane, Wash., airport to Boise.

Boise State and Horizon Air unveiled the plane, which sports the team logo on its tail, as an ode to the Broncos earlier this month.

Spear says he'll board the plane after Horizon Air paints an airplane for the Vandals, whose football team will try to beat the No. 6 Broncos this Saturday for the first time since 1998.

[DuffMan]

I got lumped together with PRF2009A?!?!

In the sense that you are a Hot Carl fan, like many would lump TDT and myself together, even though I think he's a moron.

[WithasilentK]

I got lumped together with PRF2009A?!?!

In the sense that you are a Hot Carl fan, like many would lump TDT and myself together, even though I think he's a moron.

OK, fair enough.  I would never have enough disdain for someone to lump them with TDT.  That's just downright mean.

[D O.C.]

That being said, the SJU defense is VERY good.  I agree completely with that statement.  The SJU defense has always been built around speed in the LB crew, and now they have that with strength to boot.  But one thing that I think could be brought up is the lack of passing offense in the MIAC.  The last two years we have seen some very good QBs and WRs go through the MIAC, this year...nothing.  If there is a weakness in SJU's D, it could be the corners and that could be the factor in the playoffs.

+1

[bleedpurple]

One of the criteria is also results against common opponents. They may be looking at this:

at UW-Whitewater 38, UW-Eau Claire 13
at St. John's 35, UW-Eau Claire 27

at UW-Whitewater 38, UW-River Falls 14
St. John's 28, at UW-River Falls 24

Who knows? Just throwing that out there. The handbook doesn't say "winning percentage against common opponents" -- just "results." So it could be open to interpretation.

Pat - How much liberty does the regional and playoff committees have when looking at "results?"  I have no qualms with UWW being ranked #1 in the West and think they deserve it.  Based on the above common opponent example are the committees able to take into account the SJU played those 2 teams a month before UWW did?  Or that UWW had both games at home?  Once again I'm not angling to put the Johnnies at #1, just trying to get a better read on the selection process.

I think Pat will weigh in, but I asked Keith pretty much the same question after the first Regional Rankings came out and UWW was ranked 4th.  In looking at the 3rd Regional Rankings, it appears they have as much latitude as they want. I'm quite sure the statistical categories that seemed to drive the first rankings especially didn't shift THAT MUCH! These latest rankings seem to show they have a lot of latitude. Probably the biggest question that leaves us is how much they CHOOSE to exercise. And then there's the question no one has really answered for me. What is the value of the first two rankings? (I'm glad they do them because they are great discussion topics. Maybe they are just to drive up interest? Not sure other than that what they would be for. As Oz says, the inconsistency is what is frustrating.)