FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[VOJ]

Not to beat a dead horse, okay I'm beating a dead horse. Couldn't sleep last night and went back to check out if there were any good wishes for the Johnnies in last years playoffs.  There were two, both from Cobber fans (Cobb30hog & CobberFvr) and one other from planet Zoltar (White Silly).  Thanks for your support ust(D) you now get the same from me. 

I guess that pretty much says it all...so Johnnies fans climb on the COE bandwagon???!!!

[Gig Harbor Cat]

Hey my man Samwill,
  Great to hear from you.  coaching the boys is the best--enjoy the ride.  All I have to offer is baseball lessons for the boys.  If you ever need help, especially in the area of pitching let me know.  I'm happy to share my insider info.
  Glad you still have the hoodie--Take care be well. 
65lb big hitter--I would expect nothing less !!  That is how it all starts.

Happy T day

Gig Harbor Cat

[cobbernation]

Looking at the all-conference team selections, I have great confidence in concordia's qb for the next few years.  Dunham started 4 or 5 games and was 2nd team.  Does this mean much?  With 9 teams in the conference why does the 1st and 2nd team all conference have 2 qb and 3 rb winners?  I think the all conference teams should have 11 position players, then 3 special team players (kicker, punter, returner).

[WashedUp]

Looking at the all-conference team selections, I have great confidence in concordia's qb for the next few years.  Dunham started 4 or 5 games and was 2nd team.  Does this mean much?  With 9 teams in the conference why does the 1st and 2nd team all conference have 2 qb and 3 rb winners?  I think the all conference teams should have 11 position players, then 3 special team players (kicker, punter, returner).

2 QBs and 3 RBs is still better than the 2007 team when 3 QBs and 3 RBs were named to each the 1st and 2nd team.  I agree that it seems a little excessive to give 2/3 of the starters at some positions all-conference.

[DuffMan]

I agree with 11 players for each team plus punter and kicker.  This has been hashed out in the past.  I think they've named fewer players than in the past which is a step in the right direction, but 4 all-MIAC QBs? 

[WashedUp]

I agree with 11 players for each team plus punter and kicker.  This has been hashed out in the past.  I think they've named fewer players than in the past which is a step in the right direction, but 4 all-MIAC QBs? 

They have had at least 4 all-MIAC QBs since at least 2003.  I did find one year that they went with 11 All-Conference players:

http://miac-online.org/documents/2008/8/6/1932FBallconf.jpg

No coach of the year is named so I'm going to assume it was Gagliardi.

[WithasilentK]

Haters, SJU Rubes, Raider Guy, et al,

Get your clicker fingers ready for some Benchwarmer smite.

Ahem...Where I am very impressed with Mt. Union's ability to lower their admissions standards so low that they can actually take the football players that can't hack it academically at Ohio St. I do not feel they are a better team than Whitewater this year. In addition, it is a fact that President William McKinley enjoyed his matriculation at Allegheny exponentially more than his time at Mt. Union. As it was documented in a letter to his parents: "Dearest Mother and Father, Alliance sucks and smells like hot dog water. I am transferring to Allegheny and then fighting in what is sure to be a bloody Civil War because it sucks so bad. Your Son, William." If you feel slighted by these comments I will say I should have started Pierre Garcon over Steve Breaston yesterday.

Other than that, it should be pointed out that everything Linfield, SJU, Mt. Union and Whitewater have done in the last decade really doesn't have anything to do with 2009. You can continue to congratulate yourself on your past successes and continue to say, "Whatever, you guys make the playoffs for the first time in 19 years so you think you can brag" as much as you want. But the fact remains the same: SJU turned the ball over a billion times and lost. UST scored a bunch and won. SJU's season is done. UST's is not. That sucks for you and I'm sorry. But not really.

UST may win on Saturday, they may lose. They may lose to Linfield or Mary Hardin Baylor or win. They may go to Whitewater and get pounded by 30. Doesn't matter. Because in 2010, if SJU goes further in the playoffs than UST I'm not going to say, "Whatever, we made it farther than you in 2009."

USTbench,

OOOHHHH The admissions card played by someone who's team has non scholarship athletes on special grant non-scholarships. Those same players that can't hack it at St Johns so they get in at USTD.

I seriously doubt there was any time spent learning about Mounts admissions policy. Where did you get the info about OSU reject recruits? It is something that has been speculated about for years by those who are not willing to admit Mount might just be doing it the right way with smart kids that happen to be athletes. They have to be smart to have the success the program has experienced. Your accusation is a bunch of horse $hip.

The graduation rate of Mount's players is a higher % than their winning % on the football field. I am sure that is true at USTD too. Don't you wish your winning % on the field was at least a little closer? Even in 2009. A memorable season that includes a second place finish in the MIAC and a loss to SJU. I seriously wish you luck the remainder of the season and maybe we'll see you in Salem, VA. If MOUSCU is fortunate to get there too.

Mount Union has leadership scholarships for many of their football athletes.  These scholarships are MUCH more prevalent there than any MIAC school.  Their coach even cripples other sports there by taking away some of these scholarships from them.  Great program, but I guarantee you they are putting up more free tuition for their players than any other D3 program.

[DuffMan]

Mount Union has leadership scholarships for many of their football athletes.  These scholarships are MUCH more prevalent there than any MIAC school.  Their coach even cripples other sports there by taking away some of these scholarships from them.  Great program, but I guarantee you they are putting up more free tuition for their players than any other D3 program.

It's pretty easy to cast stones when you have absolutely zero proof.  Try posting something with evidence next time.

[WithasilentK]

I agree with 11 players for each team plus punter and kicker.  This has been hashed out in the past.  I think they've named fewer players than in the past which is a step in the right direction, but 4 all-MIAC QBs? 

They have had at least 4 all-MIAC QBs since at least 2003.  I did find one year that they went with 11 All-Conference players:

http://miac-online.org/documents/2008/8/6/1932FBallconf.jpg

No coach of the year is named so I'm going to assume it was Gagliardi.

HAHAHA. I get it.

They are not supposed to be restricted by the positions of the athletes they think deserve the award.  If it's 6 RBs, then they have the ability to give it to 6 RBs.  I see why they would do this, not leaving out very deserving athletes, but I too would like to see 11 players get 1st team, and 11 players get 2nd team.

This year 3 safeties got 1st team, 3 got second team, 1 DB got first team and 1 second team, and 1 CB got first team and 1 second team (Cornish).  If those DBs are safeties, that's 8 safeties and 2 CBs.

[WashedUp]

Mount Union has leadership scholarships for many of their football athletes.  These scholarships are MUCH more prevalent there than any MIAC school.  Their coach even cripples other sports there by taking away some of these scholarships from them.  Great program, but I guarantee you they are putting up more free tuition for their players than any other D3 program.

It's pretty easy to cast stones when you have absolutely zero proof.  Try posting something with evidence next time.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you here, K.  I bet Coast Guard has the most free tuition in D3.

[WithasilentK]

Mount Union has leadership scholarships for many of their football athletes.  These scholarships are MUCH more prevalent there than any MIAC school.  Their coach even cripples other sports there by taking away some of these scholarships from them.  Great program, but I guarantee you they are putting up more free tuition for their players than any other D3 program.

It's pretty easy to cast stones when you have absolutely zero proof.  Try posting something with evidence next time.

Cripples was too strong of a word, takes away from other programs would fit.  And putting up the most free tuition may also be too strong, but I would bet a lot that it is near the top.

I've talked to people with some knowledge of their program, and that is what I've been told.  So I do have knowledge of the situation, albeit second hand.  I can bring SJU in this conversation too if you want because I know several people that were on leadership scholarships there as well.  UST also has them, so do a lot of schools.

[Pat Coleman]

There were two, both from Cobber fans (Cobb30hog & CobberFvr) and one other from planet Zoltar (White Silly). 

I think that's a pretty high percentage of non-SJU MIAC posters from past years, actually.

[Pat Coleman]

They are not supposed to be restricted by the positions of the athletes they think deserve the award.  If it's 6 RBs, then they have the ability to give it to 6 RBs.  

Absolutely. That's why you see coaches put six running backs on the field all the time.

[Pat Coleman]

Cripples was too strong of a word, takes away from other programs would fit.  And putting up the most free tuition may also be too strong, but I would bet a lot that it is near the top.

As long as they are giving out grants and scholarships at a similar rate to the rest of their student body, that's fine. And the NCAA audits that at the Division III level now.

[tmerton]

And before I forget, Happy Turkey Testicle Day to you all.

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