FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[kubiack78]

Usually it's OZ, BoBo and myself on here when everyone else is asleep.  It's that other side of the world thing... you wouldn't understand

[carletonsid]

I thought I had seen everything dumb that a college player could do when Burton from Trinity got drunk and went Mike Tyson on the cop on Riverwalk back in 2002.  Not such a good Stagg Bowl for his team as a result.

This past Thursday night Stephen F. Austin flew here to Missoula to take on the UM Griz in the quarterfinals.  Within 2 hours of that arrival their All-American QB (4,000 yards and 40TDs) and several of his teammates had found the way to Red's Bar.  Being the hospitable fans that we Montanans are and seeing them dressed in their team apparel, the adult bevvies were on the house (and the fans).  By the time the evening had ended, at least 30 SFA players had made sure dehydration would not be a problem during the playoff game

You can probably guess the rest of the story in today's world of phones with cameras, Facebook and fan chat boards.  The evening was well documented as evidenced by the attached link.

http://www.egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=40910

Needless to say, the #1 offense in FCS was held scoreless and lost 51-0, although they did lead in turnovers with 10; 5 picks and 5 fumbles.

This is great.  However, I don't even think SF Austin could've won even if they didn't go out drinking before the game.  Redtooth I am sure you know that Washington-Grizzly stadium is definately one of the hardest places to win a football game on a saturday!  Just look back to last week's game vs. SDSU.  Down 27 with 5 min. left in the 3rd and score the next 40 points to win!  That's how a team beat's SDSU! (Yes, the gophers couldn't even score a TD against SDSU!)

Cobbernation,

As a season ticket holder for the last five seasons, I am well aware that Wash-Griz is a very hard place to play for the visiting team.  The crowd of 25,000+ is not only right on top of the field (no track) but also IN the game with noise.  Your statement about SFA was correct, drunk or not things were not going to go their way last Saturday.  In terms of the SDSU game, I have never seen anything like it and posted the same on this board last week.  This week will likely be the biggest game ever in the history of Wash-Griz as App State and Armanti Edwards are coming to town.

Hey, and you have a MIAC guy giving you the highlights on the NBC station up there. Jake Zivin is a 2007 grad of Carleton and worked for me in the sports info office. I know he's loving it up there.

[AO]

105,

While the chance of Bobby Hauck coming to Minnesota isn't strong, the guy is a very ambious and successful coach so I would not completely rule out the possibility.  He was in the mix (as I understand it) back when Brewster was hired.  He was concerned at the time about tradition, lack of on campus stadium and a significant recruiting deficit.  Other than the TCF Stadium the other issues still exist and have likely worsened.  I would argue that after watching SDSU vs MN and UM, Bobby might actually have a more talented team here....certainly a better atmosphere.

Bobby is 80-14 in his seven years here with seven Big Sky Conference championships.  He took the 04 and 08 teams to the National Championship game and could do the same this year.

As a result of his success, Bobby is more likely to attract a good program as his FBS job rather than a complete rebuild.  The jobs that have been rumored in the past include; Stanford (finalist when Harbaugh was hired), UNLV, Colorado (when Hawkins gets fired).

For those fans that want to see a great game between two great teams, tune into ESPN Saturday at 2pm MST for the FCS semifinal-UM vs App State.

Nobody was talking Hauck before Brewster got hired.  I missed the part where Minnesota gave up 48 points to SDSU?  I believe the defense surrendered all of 2 field goals?  Does Montana have comparable wins to Air Force, Syracuse, Purdue, Northwestern and Michigan State? 

[VOJ]

And that wraps up the MIAC season.  Congrats to the UST players.

Seeing as the MIAC season is over, it's time for next season predictions.  What? Too soon?

1.  UST
2.  Carleton
3.  Bethel
4.  SJU
5.  STO
6.  Auggie Tech
7.  CCM
8.  GAC
9.  Hamline

Yes, I'm serious.

Before we bury the defending conference champs...remember they return all their offensive stat leaders...Boyle, Redding and Overman in the passing, rushing and receiving...

Defensively there are losses but guys behind them have gotten some time and should be ready to strut their stuff...

We did lose our kicker and punter, and even though SJU probably does not have someone with Gliadon's leg they still should be able to find someone to put the ball through the uprights.

[VOJ]

105,

While the chance of Bobby Hauck coming to Minnesota isn't strong, the guy is a very ambious and successful coach so I would not completely rule out the possibility.  He was in the mix (as I understand it) back when Brewster was hired.  He was concerned at the time about tradition, lack of on campus stadium and a significant recruiting deficit.  Other than the TCF Stadium the other issues still exist and have likely worsened.  I would argue that after watching SDSU vs MN and UM, Bobby might actually have a more talented team here....certainly a better atmosphere.

Bobby is 80-14 in his seven years here with seven Big Sky Conference championships.  He took the 04 and 08 teams to the National Championship game and could do the same this year.

As a result of his success, Bobby is more likely to attract a good program as his FBS job rather than a complete rebuild.  The jobs that have been rumored in the past include; Stanford (finalist when Harbaugh was hired), UNLV, Colorado (when Hawkins gets fired).

For those fans that want to see a great game between two great teams, tune into ESPN Saturday at 2pm MST for the FCS semifinal-UM vs App State.

Nobody was talking Hauck before Brewster got hired.  I missed the part where Minnesota gave up 48 points to SDSU?  I believe the defense surrendered all of 2 field goals?  Does Montana have comparable wins to Air Force, Syracuse, Purdue, Northwestern and Michigan State?  

No but I think they could hang with any of those teams say within 10 to 14 points?...Pat Coleman, if Brewster gets fired can we fire AO from putting posts on the board?  

I suppose you think the Gophers would win the FCS Championship handsdown?  Puhlease...didn't the U, (not the good one in Florida, the one in the TCities) almost lose and then did lose to NDSU?  And last year they gave up a sterling 23 points to the Grizz's whipping boy Montana State...who the Grizz beat 35-3 later that year...

[WashedUp]

105,

While the chance of Bobby Hauck coming to Minnesota isn't strong, the guy is a very ambious and successful coach so I would not completely rule out the possibility.  He was in the mix (as I understand it) back when Brewster was hired.  He was concerned at the time about tradition, lack of on campus stadium and a significant recruiting deficit.  Other than the TCF Stadium the other issues still exist and have likely worsened.  I would argue that after watching SDSU vs MN and UM, Bobby might actually have a more talented team here....certainly a better atmosphere.

Bobby is 80-14 in his seven years here with seven Big Sky Conference championships.  He took the 04 and 08 teams to the National Championship game and could do the same this year.

As a result of his success, Bobby is more likely to attract a good program as his FBS job rather than a complete rebuild.  The jobs that have been rumored in the past include; Stanford (finalist when Harbaugh was hired), UNLV, Colorado (when Hawkins gets fired).

For those fans that want to see a great game between two great teams, tune into ESPN Saturday at 2pm MST for the FCS semifinal-UM vs App State.

Nobody was talking Hauck before Brewster got hired.  I missed the part where Minnesota gave up 48 points to SDSU?  I believe the defense surrendered all of 2 field goals?  Does Montana have comparable wins to Air Force, Syracuse, Purdue, Northwestern and Michigan State? 

So you're saying that because an FCS team hasn't beaten 5 below average to mediocre teams that weren't on their schedule, their coach is worse than that of an FBS team that has?  And for defense, how about shutting out a team that was averaging 37 ppg on the season?

Montana would beat Minnesota.  Here is some undeniable proof:

http://www.myteamisbetterthanyourteam.com/default.asp?winner=Montana&loser=Minnesota&year=2009&method=2

[Redtooth]

It would take someone of AO's mental capacity to come on here and make a complete fool of himself.

Let me start with his first statement, "Nobody was talking about Hauck before Brewster got hired."  Really.....none other than your beloved Sid Hartman said the following in his January 13, 2007 column, "Patterson and Montana's Bobby Hauck are the two current head coaches whose names have been most prominently tied to the Gophers job."  The fact he interviewed with Maturi as well was probably a give away.  He was not impressed with the job and made a good decision to stay it would seem.

You missed the part when SDSU scored 48 on the Gophers....I missed the part where Minnesota scored 61 on SDSU, including 40 in the last quarter and a half.  If I'm not mistaken MN didn't score an offensive TD in the game where they produced 16 points.

I can guarantee you Bobby's team plays a hell of a lot harder than Brewster's and would have been able to compete with the teams you referenced.

Enjoy that very prestigous Bowl Game that Brewster's team is playing in.

[Knightstalker]

It would take someone of AO's mental capacity to come on here and make a complete fool of himself.

Let me start with his first statement, "Nobody was talking about Hauck before Brewster got hired."  Really.....none other than your beloved Sid Hartman said the following in his January 13, 2007 column, "Patterson and Montana's Bobby Hauck are the two current head coaches whose names have been most prominently tied to the Gophers job."  The fact he interviewed with Maturi as well was probably a give away.  He was not impressed with the job and made a good decision to stay it would seem.

You missed the part when SDSU scored 48 on the Gophers....I missed the part where Minnesota scored 61 on SDSU, including 40 in the last quarter and a half.  If I'm not mistaken MN didn't score an offensive TD in the game where they produced 16 points.

I can guarantee you Bobby's team plays a hell of a lot harder than Brewster's and would have been able to compete with the teams you referenced.

Enjoy that very prestigous Bowl Game that Brewster's team is playing in.

Brewster is about as good a coach as he was a QB, which is why he got moved to HB in HS then TE and finally WR in college.

[WithasilentK]

And that wraps up the MIAC season.  Congrats to the UST players.

Seeing as the MIAC season is over, it's time for next season predictions.  What? Too soon?

1.  UST
2.  Carleton
3.  Bethel
4.  SJU
5.  STO
6.  Auggie Tech
7.  CCM
8.  GAC
9.  Hamline

Yes, I'm serious.

Before we bury the defending conference champs...remember they return all their offensive stat leaders...Boyle, Redding and Overman in the passing, rushing and receiving...

Defensively there are losses but guys behind them have gotten some time and should be ready to strut their stuff...

We did lose our kicker and punter, and even though SJU probably does not have someone with Gliadon's leg they still should be able to find someone to put the ball through the uprights.

I'm not burying them, I think the top 4 will be very close and will lose to eachother once or twice, but I think it shakes out like that in the end.  It may be any combination of those teams.  And I am saying this in December, it's not like I am giving a be all end all prediction of the season, that comes in August.

And I'm sure that those 3 may improve in the offseaon, but the return of this:

Jakob Reding      9  145  699   17  682   4.7   5   45  75.8
Joe Boyle            9  134.72  114-206-6   55.3 1461  16  58 162.3
Josh Overman    10   33  479  14.5   5   38  47.9

is not striking fear into any team.

[tommiegun]

Warning: I'm a Brewster apologist... But I think that its too early to throw him under the bus.  The Gophers won all the games they should have won this year (other than Illinois) and maybe won two that they shouldn't have (Michigan St. and Northwestern).  There was no way the Gophers were going to have a prayer against PSU at PSU, a pissed off Ohio St. team coming off the Purdue loss, or Iowa playing for a BCS game.  That is a killer road schedule.  They lost to Cal who was then #6 in the nation with an uninjured and fresh Jahvid Best, and to a Wisconsin team that quietly was one of the better teams in the Big Ten. 

Once Decker went down the season became a rebuilding year; as sad as it is that one player was the offense - when you got the prize stallion you ride it in the derby - you don't worry about spreading the ball around.  Plus, this was the first year in the "pound the rock" pro-style offense with no running backs... so all and all, what I'm saying is, give the guy one more year.

[Touchdown Tommy]

Hi Veek.  Looking forward to the 3rd Annual JohnnieFootball.com Holiday Party at your shack.  Let TDT know what I can bring...

[WashedUp]

Warning: I'm a Brewster apologist... But I think that its too early to throw him under the bus.  The Gophers won all the games they should have won this year (other than Illinois) and maybe won two that they shouldn't have (Michigan St. and Northwestern).  There was no way the Gophers were going to have a prayer against PSU at PSU, a pissed off Ohio St. team coming off the Purdue loss, or Iowa playing for a BCS game.  That is a killer road schedule.  They lost to Cal who was then #6 in the nation with an uninjured and fresh Jahvid Best, and to a Wisconsin team that quietly was one of the better teams in the Big Ten.  

Once Decker went down the season became a rebuilding year; as sad as it is that one player was the offense - when you got the prize stallion you ride it in the derby - you don't worry about spreading the ball around.  Plus, this was the first year in the "pound the rock" pro-style offense with no running backs... so all and all, what I'm saying is, give the guy one more year.

I agree that Brewster should get at least one more season.  The way I look at it is, every college coach should be given time to see one class they recruit graduate (4 years though, not this 5-6 year kind of graduate from a public school with a major in communications or leisure studies BS), unless there is some sort of a Mark Mangino incident.

[AO]

It would take someone of AO's mental capacity to come on here and make a complete fool of himself.

Let me start with his first statement, "Nobody was talking about Hauck before Brewster got hired."  Really.....none other than your beloved Sid Hartman said the following in his January 13, 2007 column, "Patterson and Montana's Bobby Hauck are the two current head coaches whose names have been most prominently tied to the Gophers job."  The fact he interviewed with Maturi as well was probably a give away.  He was not impressed with the job and made a good decision to stay it would seem.

You missed the part when SDSU scored 48 on the Gophers....I missed the part where Minnesota scored 61 on SDSU, including 40 in the last quarter and a half.  If I'm not mistaken MN didn't score an offensive TD in the game where they produced 16 points.

I can guarantee you Bobby's team plays a hell of a lot harder than Brewster's and would have been able to compete with the teams you referenced.

Enjoy that very prestigous Bowl Game that Brewster's team is playing in.

he interviewed, but nobody was talking about him in the minnesota sports scene (one mention by sid doesn't say much).  The guy everybody thought Maturi would pick was Charlie Strong the d-coordinator at Florida. 
   Can you guarantee Bobby's team was playing harder than Brewsters when they gave up 6 touchdowns to the jackrabbits?    The talent level between Minnesota and Montana is not even worth discussing.  What the coaches do with that talent is, but don't pretend that Montana would be a favored in a game against the Gophs.

[stanbob]

It would take someone of AO's mental capacity to come on here and make a complete fool of himself.

Let me start with his first statement, "Nobody was talking about Hauck before Brewster got hired."  Really.....none other than your beloved Sid Hartman said the following in his January 13, 2007 column, "Patterson and Montana's Bobby Hauck are the two current head coaches whose names have been most prominently tied to the Gophers job."  The fact he interviewed with Maturi as well was probably a give away.  He was not impressed with the job and made a good decision to stay it would seem.

You missed the part when SDSU scored 48 on the Gophers....I missed the part where Minnesota scored 61 on SDSU, including 40 in the last quarter and a half.  If I'm not mistaken MN didn't score an offensive TD in the game where they produced 16 points.

I can guarantee you Bobby's team plays a hell of a lot harder than Brewster's and would have been able to compete with the teams you referenced.

Enjoy that very prestigous Bowl Game that Brewster's team is playing in.

he interviewed, but nobody was talking about him in the minnesota sports scene (one mention by sid doesn't say much).  The guy everybody thought Maturi would pick was Charlie Strong the d-coordinator at Florida. 
   Can you guarantee Bobby's team was playing harder than Brewsters when they gave up 6 touchdowns to the jackrabbits?    The talent level between Minnesota and Montana is not even worth discussing.  What the coaches do with that talent is, but don't pretend that Montana would be a favored in a game against the Gophs.

But we all know that "your" Northwestern team would crush them.   

[Redtooth]

AO,

Sid was hardly the only one that acknowledged Bobby's candidacy.  It was widely discussed in Rivals as well.  The person no one mentioned prior to his acceptance of the job was Brewster.  I think it is widely known that Maturi settled for a third-tier unknown when the others he wanted were less than interested; Patterson, Strong, Kiffin, Dungy, Hauck etc..  Directly from Sid:

"But by that evening of Jan. 15, surprising reports emerged that the Gophers would hire an NFL tight ends coach named Tim Brewster. Those reports became fact the next day, as athletic director Joel Maturi went with a coach who had been an assistant at North Carolina and Texas and in the pros with the San Diego Chargers and Denver Broncos; he had never been a coordinator at any of those jobs.

Yes, nobody had ever heard of Brewster, he didn't have the coaching background of other candidates, and when he was selected instead of Strong, I was among the many who were shocked."

In terms of playing hard and talent, your entitled to your opinion but for a team to come back like Montana did against SDSU they clearly play hard.  The fact that MN played like dead fish until the game was given to them late also indicates something less than stellar effort as was discussed in the Star Trib article the day after.  Ask the common opponent who played harder and has more talent and I don't think they would say the Gophers.  I also know one of the teams has a vote in this week's Top 25 and one doesn't.