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[sjusection105]

I am just referring to how SJU wants to win now and I am not sure a high school coach can come in and have his system work in year 1.  But I could be proven wrong!

Mike Grant was Offensive Coordinator at SJU back in the late 80's if memory serves me right before he went to Forest Lake & then on to Eden Prairie.
His system is the SJU system. There are a lot of similarities to how he runs his program & how John has run the SJU program for 60 years.

[USTBench]

I think CN is right about Horan's resume.

I keep saying the best guy for the SJU job when the time comes is Roney. Lots of coaching experience and good at getting UST in the L column.   

On a serious note...Cord @ AUG looks like a most intriguing matchup. The loser is definitely out of the hunt for postseason, but the winner still keeps hopes afloat. Both have decent, solid defenses and an excelleng running game.....definitely worth the trip to Riverside

http://www.perfect-technique.com/about.html

Says here he's UST's 2nd all-time winningest winner. A real guy's guy.

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

I think CN is right about Horan's resume.

I keep saying the best guy for the SJU job when the time comes is Roney. Lots of coaching experience and good at getting UST in the L column.   

On a serious note...Cord @ AUG looks like a most intriguing matchup. The loser is definitely out of the hunt for postseason, but the winner still keeps hopes afloat. Both have decent, solid defenses and an excelleng running game.....definitely worth the trip to Riverside

http://www.perfect-technique.com/about.html

Says here he's UST's 2nd all-time winningest winner. A real guy's guy.

Bench- your link is at least three years old, as it lists Denning as the UST head baseball coach, a position he retired from after winning the national title in 2009. Also, it lists Tauer as UST's assistant.. he was 'interim head coach" last year after Fritz retired after winning a national title in 2011 (see a pattern here?) But I doubt JT will retire after winning the national title this year 


But Roney is still #2 in career wins but Caruso should pass him in the playoffs or next Sept. if all goes well, CG could be UST's all time leader next November/December.... unless he retires after winning the national title this year

[OldAuggie]

I think CN is right about Horan's resume.

I keep saying the best guy for the SJU job when the time comes is Roney. Lots of coaching experience and good at getting UST in the L column.   

On a serious note...Cord @ AUG looks like a most intriguing matchup. The loser is definitely out of the hunt for postseason, but the winner still keeps hopes afloat. Both have decent, solid defenses and an excelleng running game.....definitely worth the trip to Riverside

Yes this game will be a turning point for the winner. If the Auggies win this game they go over to Tommie land with some serious momentum next weekend. Not looking ahead because this Concordia game will be a big challenge for Augsburg.

[sfury]

Grant interviewed for the St. Thomas job before Roney got it and the Cobbers job before Horan got it. And to quote The Sweet Season:

"I was interviewing for a college job once and was asked, 'Coming from high school, do you think you'd be ready to handle a college program?" I had to try hard not to laugh. We averaged six thousand fans per game here. Our program raises over $100,000 for the district. We fund-raise another $30,000 for our program. I've got this going on and I teach a full schedule. Would I be ready to manage a college program? I can't imagine only having a hundred players to worry about. That would be a luxury."

And since that book came out I'm sure those dollar figures only rose and he's won X number of state titles since in the biggest class in the state. And as has been mentioned, he was an assistant at SJU. Doesn't mean he'd ever be coach at St. John's. But if it doesn't happen, I don't think the fact he's been a high school guy for 20 years is going to have anything to do with it.

[Knightstalker]

If coach Gags steps down and St. Johns starts looking, isn't Tim Brewster available?   

[USTBench]

If coach Gags steps down and St. Johns starts looking, isn't Tim Brewster available?   

Basement Brew is coaching wide receivers at Mississippi State or something. Glenn Mason is looking to occupy his free time though.

[sjusection105]

If coach Gags steps down and St. Johns starts looking, isn't Tim Brewster available?   

Good one KS 

The situation staring SJU football in the face is that John is a legend. How do you replace a legend,whenever that time comes.
There are very strong feelings on two fronts within the alumni base at SJU. There are many alumni on staff (including new President Michael Hemesath) who will be part of the decision making process of hiring a new coach-let me again state-when the time comes. One philosophy is to hire a candidate who is either currently on staff or who has come through the program,coached here & has moved on. This would help to keep many of the traditions and philosophy that John has used over the years intact at SJU. The other school of thought is to have a nationwide search and find the best candidate who can bring the program back to winning titles,both in the MIAC and on the national level- pay this candidate above market rate to get the best.
There seem to be 3 criteria for a new coach at SJU:
1. Beat St. Thomas
2. Win MIAC titles consistently
3. Go deep into the NCAA play-offs,winning titles at least once every 7-10 years.

Sounds simple, doesn't it?

[tommiegun]

Good one KS 

The situation staring SJU football in the face is that John is a legend. How do you replace a legend,whenever that time comes.
There are very strong feelings on two fronts within the alumni base at SJU. There are many alumni on staff (including new President Michael Hemesath) who will be part of the decision making process of hiring a new coach-let me again state-when the time comes. One philosophy is to hire a candidate who is either currently on staff or who has come through the program,coached here & has moved on. This would help to keep many of the traditions and philosophy that John has used over the years intact at SJU. The other school of thought is to have a nationwide search and find the best candidate who can bring the program back to winning titles,both in the MIAC and on the national level- pay this candidate above market rate to get the best.
There seem to be 3 criteria for a new coach at SJU:
1. Beat St. Thomas
2. Win MIAC titles consistently
3. Go deep into the NCAA play-offs,winning titles at least once every 7-10 years.

Sounds simple, doesn't it?

As a Notre Dame fan, all of those things are basically the list at another former powerhouse program I know of (1. Beat USC 2. Go to BCS games consistently 3. win the National Title at least once every 10 years).  I think the biggest problem the new SJU coach whenever that time comes is going to be changing Gagliardi's time honored and tradition rich culture.  It obviously worked for a long, long, long time - but does not appear to be working anymore.  Sad as it is, it seems like today's high schoolers, whether they be D1 or D3 bound, care more about the frills and perks or facilities than they do about healthy traditions or "winning the right way" (see Oregon, U$T).  I feel like SJU has fallen behind the times and that is the #1 reason for its decline in recent years - which is sad in many ways.

[retagent]

No "Bring back Delmon" talk here?

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

No "Bring back Delmon" talk here?

Is he in the runnig for SJU coach now too?? 

Wow....one bad season preceded by a couple less than dominant seasons and its panic mode behind the Pine Curtain? The only changes I see needed are to get abreast the competition in the recruiting game. Follow the Penn St model the last 3-4 years of Paterno's reign (strictly talking football here, ignoring the Sandusky mess). JoePa endured a couple of medicore seasons and some Board members went so far as to suggest he step down. He and his staff rebranded their recruiting efforts, brought in a ton of talent, and were back where their fans/alum were used the PSU being till the bull broke loose in the china shop.  SJU is not as aggressive in recruiting as it needs to be, and still relies on the "chance to play for a legend" angle. Its a good angle, but it doesnt close the deal anymore, not like it did on the heels of a national title. The Tommie in me is fine with SJU maintaining the status quo, but it does kinda bother me to see the once proud Johnnie Nation mired in the middle of the pack, not challenging for the top rung.

[tommiegun]

We've truly become a "trophies for all" society if 1-4 and second to last in the conference is the middle of pack.

[skunks_sidekick]

Chiming in from over here in OAC land. 

When ER applied for the Wabash job, I had a chance to talk to him via email.  He indicated at that time that he was looking for the next challenge, and he liked that he would be closer to Ohio.  He and his wife have both of their families located here.

In my opinion (solely based on that one conversation), ER would probably want to take a job in Ohio as his next gig, and potentially at a higher level.  Mount has a huge connection with Toledo these days, although ER is a bit older than the Mount turned Toledo coaches. 

Now an interesting potential candidate would be Vince Kehres.  I would not assume at all that he is the heir apparent at Mount.  There was some politcal BS going on a few years ago between LK & the UMU Pres, and Vince had a part in the whole dust-up.  Prominent alumni, donors, and others let the Pres know he had played the wrong political power move, and he was slapped down pretty convincingly. 

It would not totally surprise me if the SJU job became open next year, to see Vince apply. 

[hazzben]

There seem to be 3 criteria for a new coach at SJU:
1. Beat St. Thomas
2. Win MIAC titles consistently
3. Go deep into the NCAA play-offs,winning titles at least once every 7-10 years.

If those are the priorities, then you conduct a national search and strongly encourage all qualified, SJU connected candidates to apply. Ideally, after that national search your #1 candidate has program ties and connections. But your priority, if those goals are accurate, would seem to necessitate hiring the best coach available, whether he has ties or not.

[Retired Old Rat]

There seem to be 3 criteria for a new coach at SJU:
1. Beat St. Thomas
2. Win MIAC titles consistently
3. Go deep into the NCAA play-offs,winning titles at least once every 7-10 years.

If those are the priorities, then you conduct a national search and strongly encourage all qualified, SJU connected candidates to apply. Ideally, after that national search your #1 candidate has program ties and connections. But your priority, if those goals are accurate, would seem to necessitate hiring the best coach available, whether he has ties or not.

The last SJU football coach hired had no previous ties to the program.