FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DuffMan]

Duffman just asked Fasching to bring back the 'stache on the SCTimes chat.  Nice.

Someone had to do it.  It's been a hot topic amongst some teammates and I.  I believe my senior season ('02) was the last year for the 'stache.

[faunch]

Comment From Elephant in the room...
Gary - Let's get this out in the open - is the AD or administration at SJU FORCING you to keep Jim Gagliardi on you football coaching staff for next year? If this is YOUR team and YOU are the head coach isn't this YOUR decision? Don't waste the schools money on someone that DOES NOT help your future! John Gagliardi is no longer in charge!!!


That's a pretty harsh question.  Pretty easy to ask when a person doesn't have to reveal their identity. 

Gary Fasching: We are looking at restructuring our staff, and I cannot tell how it is going to look. I am working with our Adminnstration on staffing needs and resources.

[DuffMan]

Agreed, Faunch, which is why I left my name with my question.  If you need to hide your ID, maybe you shouldn't ask the question.

[faunch]

Agreed, Faunch, which is why I left my name with my question.  If you need to hide your ID, maybe you shouldn't ask the question.

I meant to leave my name but forget to enter it in the little box.  Yet another error on my part.  For the record I was the guy that asked about the video webcast...surprise, surprise.  I'm gonna send my $100 in for the J-Club and earmark it for football along with a note begging them to provide this service.

[DuffMan]

For the record I was the guy that asked about the video webcast...surprise, surprise.

I never would have guessed! 

[Retired Old Rat]

Great video from NFL Films done in 1998:

Salute to St. John's Gagliardi

[OzJohnnie]

What's the likelihood of SJU video webcasting home games this coming fall? I believe it could be a great marketing and recruiting tool. In addition SJU and Concordia are the only two teams in the league that do not do this. I'm not sure if you've seen UST's production...it's very well orchestrated and professionally done.

Fasching: I would guess that that is a question that our Marketing people and Advancement people need to answer. i do know that they worry about the crowd if you webcast the games. I would certainly be open to talking about that with our Administration, but it may not be my choice.

Oz: your thoughts....would you be more or less likely to buy season tickets if you could watch the games on the internet?

I would subscribe.  HD would be nice for cash.

[OzJohnnie]

Comment From Elephant in the room...
Gary - Let's get this out in the open - is the AD or administration at SJU FORCING you to keep Jim Gagliardi on you football coaching staff for next year? If this is YOUR team and YOU are the head coach isn't this YOUR decision? Don't waste the schools money on someone that DOES NOT help your future! John Gagliardi is no longer in charge!!!


That's a pretty harsh question.  Pretty easy to ask when a person doesn't have to reveal their identity. 

Gary Fasching: We are looking at restructuring our staff, and I cannot tell how it is going to look. I am working with our Adminnstration on staffing needs and resources.

Yup.

[Robert Zimmerman]

Great video from NFL Films done in 1998:

Salute to St. John's Gagliardi

Was that Herbst that threw a touchdown pass in this video?

[carletonsid]

What's the likelihood of SJU video webcasting home games this coming fall? I believe it could be a great marketing and recruiting tool. In addition SJU and Concordia are the only two teams in the league that do not do this. I'm not sure if you've seen UST's production...it's very well orchestrated and professionally done.

Fasching: I would guess that that is a question that our Marketing people and Advancement people need to answer. i do know that they worry about the crowd if you webcast the games. I would certainly be open to talking about that with our Administration, but it may not be my choice.

Oz: your thoughts....would you be more or less likely to buy season tickets if you could watch the games on the internet?

I would subscribe.  HD would be nice for cash.

I'll add in my $.02 here since we've been live streaming at Carleton for almost 10 years.

Do it for free. I think the connection that alumni will maintain with the program will be realized in increased donations, making it more than pay for itself. Plus, if you want to increase your recruiting footprint outside of SJU's traditional strongholds, what better way to do that then tell kids from Chicago, Wisconsin, and wherever else you choose to go "Hey, check out our free HD webcast next Saturday" and a kid tunes in (even if its only for a short bit) and sees the atmosphere at Clemens Stadium, that can only help the recruiting effort. Recruits' parents will also check it out, which makes your product even easier to sell because those parents know they'll be able to watch their kids pretty much every Saturday, whether they can make to Collegeville or not. None of this is possible if you make people pay for the service.

You can do it for cheap (single camera, non-HD) and it's pretty easy, or you can do multiple cameras and HD, which is a lot of labor and requires a fairly large ($20k+) investment. I believe UST is paying an outside production company to produce its video, which I think it also uses for its video board.

[sjusection105]

Great video from NFL Films done in 1998:

Salute to St. John's Gagliardi

Was that Herbst that threw a touchdown pass in this video?

Yep, Herbst #5 to Sieben #3

[johnnie_esq]

What's the likelihood of SJU video webcasting home games this coming fall? I believe it could be a great marketing and recruiting tool. In addition SJU and Concordia are the only two teams in the league that do not do this. I'm not sure if you've seen UST's production...it's very well orchestrated and professionally done.

Fasching: I would guess that that is a question that our Marketing people and Advancement people need to answer. i do know that they worry about the crowd if you webcast the games. I would certainly be open to talking about that with our Administration, but it may not be my choice.

Oz: your thoughts....would you be more or less likely to buy season tickets if you could watch the games on the internet?

I would subscribe.  HD would be nice for cash.

I'll add in my $.02 here since we've been live streaming at Carleton for almost 10 years.

Do it for free. I think the connection that alumni will maintain with the program will be realized in increased donations, making it more than pay for itself. Plus, if you want to increase your recruiting footprint outside of SJU's traditional strongholds, what better way to do that then tell kids from Chicago, Wisconsin, and wherever else you choose to go "Hey, check out our free HD webcast next Saturday" and a kid tunes in (even if its only for a short bit) and sees the atmosphere at Clemens Stadium, that can only help the recruiting effort. Recruits' parents will also check it out, which makes your product even easier to sell because those parents know they'll be able to watch their kids pretty much every Saturday, whether they can make to Collegeville or not. None of this is possible if you make people pay for the service.

You can do it for cheap (single camera, non-HD) and it's pretty easy, or you can do multiple cameras and HD, which is a lot of labor and requires a fairly large ($20k+) investment. I believe UST is paying an outside production company to produce its video, which I think it also uses for its video board.

You are exactly right, CarletonSID.  The lesson from Notre Dame and College football and its relationship with TV in the 1960s and 1970s is well understood.

Which is why I have little confidence that SJU will actually do the correct thing. They'll be too concerned about the potential loss in ticket revenue-- just like most college football programs were in the 1960s-- while Notre Dame gave its rights away for basically free.  Fast forward 50 years and suddenly Notre Dame alone can sell its home games for $20 million per year and has a national following. Meanwhile, you can't easily get BTN in Florida or Texas or California, where all the great athletes are growing up.  Grrr....

[OzJohnnie]

Ok. Free SD stream. Subscription HD stream with additional content.

[Texas Ole]

Would Olaf consider Wal-Mart's Meidt?
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/chris-meidt/33/2a7/b15

I've heard Meidt's name mentioned by a few people.  There are still some assistants there from his days.  I am not sure he would or even could leave his job at Wal-Mart.  I also think the money would have to be pretty good.  The fact he was kept on through a NFL coaching change is quite telling for a career in the NFL as it rarely happens.  His name was mentioned as a potential coach for the Gophers a few years ago by some people.  I also wonder if Caruso will stay at UST for much longer.  Wisconsin has plenty of openings and the U may not be far behind with Jerry Kill's health issues.  The way Meidt left was not well received.  I don't hold it against him since it was a NFL job.  I think he really enjoys his job at Wal-Mart right now.

It was a huge mistake by St. Olaf to ever let Coach OJ go.  I understand it is business, and it is likely that Augustana made Coach OJ an offer Olaf could not match.  I don't know what Ramler is thinking, but I would think the Olaf job would intrigue him.  I really think Luther is a great fit for him, but he may return to St. John's.  I personally would prefer someone that wants to be at Olaf for 20 years and can win.  I would love to have someone that wants to be a part of the entire St. Olaf and Northfield communities.  There were rumors on who applied the last time so I don't know if any of them would reapply.  Obviously Coach Stern has been promoted several times.  McCarthy is still there.  I am sure those two will be considered.  I imagine with baseball season coming and McDonald focused on that area of his job the football coaching position may take a little time.  Olaf is a nice job since the school meets all demonstrated financial need though it does not give merit scholarships.  That does help some with keeping costs down for many potential students.  I know one coach in Texas I would love to see get the job that does have a Minnesota connection, but I cannot imagine he would even apply.

[Texas Ole]

What's the likelihood of SJU video webcasting home games this coming fall? I believe it could be a great marketing and recruiting tool. In addition SJU and Concordia are the only two teams in the league that do not do this. I'm not sure if you've seen UST's production...it's very well orchestrated and professionally done.

Fasching: I would guess that that is a question that our Marketing people and Advancement people need to answer. i do know that they worry about the crowd if you webcast the games. I would certainly be open to talking about that with our Administration, but it may not be my choice.

Oz: your thoughts....would you be more or less likely to buy season tickets if you could watch the games on the internet?

I would subscribe.  HD would be nice for cash.

I'll add in my $.02 here since we've been live streaming at Carleton for almost 10 years.

Do it for free. I think the connection that alumni will maintain with the program will be realized in increased donations, making it more than pay for itself. Plus, if you want to increase your recruiting footprint outside of SJU's traditional strongholds, what better way to do that then tell kids from Chicago, Wisconsin, and wherever else you choose to go "Hey, check out our free HD webcast next Saturday" and a kid tunes in (even if its only for a short bit) and sees the atmosphere at Clemens Stadium, that can only help the recruiting effort. Recruits' parents will also check it out, which makes your product even easier to sell because those parents know they'll be able to watch their kids pretty much every Saturday, whether they can make to Collegeville or not. None of this is possible if you make people pay for the service.

You can do it for cheap (single camera, non-HD) and it's pretty easy, or you can do multiple cameras and HD, which is a lot of labor and requires a fairly large ($20k+) investment. I believe UST is paying an outside production company to produce its video, which I think it also uses for its video board.

You are exactly right, CarletonSID.  The lesson from Notre Dame and College football and its relationship with TV in the 1960s and 1970s is well understood.

Which is why I have little confidence that SJU will actually do the correct thing. They'll be too concerned about the potential loss in ticket revenue-- just like most college football programs were in the 1960s-- while Notre Dame gave its rights away for basically free.  Fast forward 50 years and suddenly Notre Dame alone can sell its home games for $20 million per year and has a national following. Meanwhile, you can't easily get BTN in Florida or Texas or California, where all the great athletes are growing up.  Grrr....

I get the BigTen Network just fine, and I need it.  I wish they'd show some D3 sports on it and their alternative channel though.  The Longhorn Network in Texas has yet to catch on.  St. Olaf streams their games for free.  It was great watching them while I taught in Iraq and now live in Texas.  UST is free, but it is filled with commercials and adds.  The Monon Bell game used to be broadcast over the phone in Dallas even in the 80s.  The Rasmussen's are DePauw alums and have talked about doing a D3 channel with creating internships for students at the schools.  You are also seeing more FCS games along with other college sports on TV.  Most local alums that care will still go to the games.  Right now Texas has HS games on tv or streamed so the kids are used to it.  The families of these kids generally travel to the games.  Most kids in Texas look at D1, high academics (Ivy), local D3, or are just burned out by then.  Colleges make money on donations.  The last thing you want to do is make a high donor mad by charging them for a service.  I think St. Olaf is still somewhat suffering residuals from the sell of WCAL and most people have better access to the programs now than before.  The big problem is that most broadcasts are pretty primitive.