FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[sfury]

Just saw a tweet that Fasching will be on with Reusse at 3 p.m. 1500.

Good interview. Gary acknowledged some areas that need improvement and that the staff is addressing those issues. Such as a full time strength & conditioning coach as well as needing to get bigger & quicker on the defensive side of the ball.UST is still on top of the MIAC until someone decides to knock them off.MIAC is a much deeper and much more competitive conference than it was just a few years ago. A team/staff has to keep up or get left in the dust.

Was it a two-parter? I think I only caught the second half, after the commercial, will have to listen to the first on-demand. Also sounds like Reusse will be at the River Falls game. And also, Reusse's Bobby Valentine voice comparison...perfect.

[sju56321]

I don't have a problem with the guy playing in the off season. Just, once practice starts and season is a week or so away, probably time to concentrate on football.
But we have seen some weird injuries to athletes that don't even involve sports-cutting a cigar or sleeping on a soft bed to name two.

[sjusection105]

I don't have a problem with the guy playing in the off season. Just, once practice starts and season is a week or so away, probably time to concentrate on football.
But we have seen some weird injuries to athletes that don't even involve sports-cutting a cigar or sleeping on a soft bed to name two.

FWIW- Sartell did win the State Championship in their division this afternoon 10-0

[DuffMan]

Maybe Duff can help with this: When Blake Elliott was hobbled the first few games of 2001, wasn't that a slowpitch softball injury or something?

I don't recall the particulars of that situation, but I do remember teammates missing early-season practices for baseball state tourney games.

[ron doney]

Seems Times might have wrong pic and name. Frank is saying it is Rob who is hurt, as is a woman I'm guessing is their mom. Unfortunately. Edit: Times site corrected to Rob.

Rough news. Unfortunately this type of thing can happen and someone else will have to step up & take his snaps---> elevating their own play at the same time.

Someone asked why he was playing baseball at this time of the year? This is small town Minnesota, these guys play baseball at a pretty decent level in the summer. When Eric Decker played for the Gophers, he played summer ball with the Cold Spring Springers- he was also the starting Center-fielder for the Gophers at that time.

It's odd that he left camp to go play...or didn't come to camp at all.

Very disappointing...I get that it's small town Minnesota and that it was the state tournament...but the football season has started.  Voshell has many years of baseball ahead of him but the window to play college football is small.  The Johnnies are suppose to be in rebuilding mode and Voshell was suppose to be a big part of that.  Personally I don't think he should have been playing in the baseball game.

Closed circuit to the D3 Preservation Lobby, including Faunch: two sport athletes are part of the D3 constitution.  Even at places like U$T.  Whiteout athletic scholarships we can not control their time away from the game.  We embrace it and sell two sport athletes as part of the well rounded experience here at the D3 level.

[tommiegun]

A sad day today as eclectic tommiegun's eccentric namesake passes.

[ron doney]

Just saw a tweet that Fasching will be on with Reusse at 3 p.m. 1500.

Good interview. Gary acknowledged some areas that need improvement and that the staff is addressing those issues. Such as a full time strength & conditioning coach as well as needing to get bigger & quicker on the defensive side of the ball.UST is still on top of the MIAC until someone decides to knock them off.MIAC is a much deeper and much more competitive conference than it was just a few years ago. A team/staff has to keep up or get left in the dust.

I want to agree with that and imply that the three year run UST has had is that much more impressive. But #2 and #3 in the conference are just as accomplished as they were 5 and 10 years ago.   #1 has changed out from SJU to UST......but the league has been relatively consistent otherwise.  Bethel has been consistently good for a long time.......and managed through whatever world Fasching is describing.

How about Fasching say the truth, SJU has fallen behind the pack.  And the coaching staff has been and is mostly to blame. 

Btw, UST has had the same strength and conditioning for the last 20+ years.......through bad times and really bad times. He also serves as S&C coach for every other varsity program. He's excellent.  But at the D3 level the S&C coach is about as affective as the new video cameras Hamline bought this year. 

Editors Note: Ron was enjoying Labor Day weekend on Martha's Vineyard and did not listen to the interview referenced. 

[Tom Thumb]

Agreed-football has to take priority. Not a smart move.

Well, you don't break bones very often playing ball. He wasn't doing extreme sports, which seems designed to cause injury, so I think luck deserves blame more than he does.

You may not break any bones, but luck deserves the blame twice in one summer for SJU. I would have thought that after Sean Tillman suffered an injury earlier this amateur baseball season that SJU would have held Voshell out, especially considering the fact that Josh Bungum has been held out of practice with a pulled quad. Fortunately for SJU Bungum returned to practice this week. However, they were pretty close to starting the season with their top two WRs on the sideline.

I guess I'm also a little confused that he was potentially allowed to leave practice to play in an amateur baseball game. I was recruited to play baseball by Coach Denning and that is how I ended up at UST. However, when it was football season I played football. And yes, I missed the state amateur baseball tournament while I was in camp. I simply did not think it was as important as college football. And personally, I don't think it sends a good message to the rest of the players on the team.

[tommiegun]

Agreed-football has to take priority. Not a smart move.

Well, you don't break bones very often playing ball. He wasn't doing extreme sports, which seems designed to cause injury, so I think luck deserves blame more than he does.

You may not break any bones, but luck deserves the blame twice in one summer for SJU. I would have thought that after Sean Tillman suffered an injury earlier this amateur baseball season that SJU would have held Voshell out, especially considering the fact that Josh Bungum has been held out of practice with a pulled quad. Fortunately for SJU Bungum returned to practice this week. However, they were pretty close to starting the season with their top two WRs on the sideline.

I guess I'm also a little confused that he was potentially allowed to leave practice to play in an amateur baseball game. I was recruited to play baseball by Coach Denning and that is how I ended up at UST. However, when it was football season I played football. And yes, I missed the state amateur baseball tournament while I was in camp. I simply did not think it was as important as college football. And personally, I don't think it sends a good message to the rest of the players on the team.

How do you hold a non-scholarship, at-will, D3 player out of town team baseball?  The beauty of D3 sports is that, even for really good players, they don't have to control your life.

Again, I'm not sure why a D3 player has to be "allowed to leave practice."  And if you don't get why someone would want to miss practice for a State baseball game, then you just don't understand small-town town team baseball.

[Knightstalker]

Agreed-football has to take priority. Not a smart move.

Well, you don't break bones very often playing ball. He wasn't doing extreme sports, which seems designed to cause injury, so I think luck deserves blame more than he does.

You may not break any bones, but luck deserves the blame twice in one summer for SJU. I would have thought that after Sean Tillman suffered an injury earlier this amateur baseball season that SJU would have held Voshell out, especially considering the fact that Josh Bungum has been held out of practice with a pulled quad. Fortunately for SJU Bungum returned to practice this week. However, they were pretty close to starting the season with their top two WRs on the sideline.

I guess I'm also a little confused that he was potentially allowed to leave practice to play in an amateur baseball game. I was recruited to play baseball by Coach Denning and that is how I ended up at UST. However, when it was football season I played football. And yes, I missed the state amateur baseball tournament while I was in camp. I simply did not think it was as important as college football. And personally, I don't think it sends a good message to the rest of the players on the team.

How do you hold a non-scholarship, at-will, D3 player out of town team baseball?  The beauty of D3 sports is that, even for really good players, they don't have to control your life.

Again, I'm not sure why a D3 player has to be "allowed to leave practice."  And if you don't get why someone would want to miss practice for a State baseball game, then you just don't understand small-town town team baseball.

I have been watching this conversation from afar.  What if baseball is his number 1 priority and he has a chance to move up in baseball and possibly get signed after he is done with college?  I knew plenty of D3 football players who did not make football their number 1 priority, in fact I know of two when NJCU was JCSC who played basketball and would leave the football team before the season ended to play basketball.  Just because football may be someone else priority doesn't mean it is every football players.  I am sure Duff knew some who put more priority on wrestling over football and if they had to ultimately choose between the two would choose wrestling.

[retagent]

A sad day today as eclectic tommiegun's eccentric namesake passes.

If this means what I think it means. My condolences.

[Walter Eagle]

Agreed-football has to take priority. Not a smart move.

Well, you don't break bones very often playing ball. He wasn't doing extreme sports, which seems designed to cause injury, so I think luck deserves blame more than he does.

You may not break any bones, but luck deserves the blame twice in one summer for SJU. I would have thought that after Sean Tillman suffered an injury earlier this amateur baseball season that SJU would have held Voshell out, especially considering the fact that Josh Bungum has been held out of practice with a pulled quad. Fortunately for SJU Bungum returned to practice this week. However, they were pretty close to starting the season with their top two WRs on the sideline.

I guess I'm also a little confused that he was potentially allowed to leave practice to play in an amateur baseball game. I was recruited to play baseball by Coach Denning and that is how I ended up at UST. However, when it was football season I played football. And yes, I missed the state amateur baseball tournament while I was in camp. I simply did not think it was as important as college football. And personally, I don't think it sends a good message to the rest of the players on the team.

How do you hold a non-scholarship, at-will, D3 player out of town team baseball?  The beauty of D3 sports is that, even for really good players, they don't have to control your life.

Again, I'm not sure why a D3 player has to be "allowed to leave practice."  And if you don't get why someone would want to miss practice for a State baseball game, then you just don't understand small-town town team baseball.

I have been watching this conversation from afar.  What if baseball is his number 1 priority and he has a chance to move up in baseball and possibly get signed after he is done with college?  I knew plenty of D3 football players who did not make football their number 1 priority, in fact I know of two when NJCU was JCSC who played basketball and would leave the football team before the season ended to play basketball.  Just because football may be someone else priority doesn't mean it is every football players.  I am sure Duff knew some who put more priority on wrestling over football and if they had to ultimately choose between the two would choose wrestling.

Heck the odds of him getting injured in football practice were probably about the same as getting injured in a baseball game.

[Pat Coleman]

Maybe not at a St. John's practice.

[Tom Thumb]

Agreed-football has to take priority. Not a smart move.

Well, you don't break bones very often playing ball. He wasn't doing extreme sports, which seems designed to cause injury, so I think luck deserves blame more than he does.

You may not break any bones, but luck deserves the blame twice in one summer for SJU. I would have thought that after Sean Tillman suffered an injury earlier this amateur baseball season that SJU would have held Voshell out, especially considering the fact that Josh Bungum has been held out of practice with a pulled quad. Fortunately for SJU Bungum returned to practice this week. However, they were pretty close to starting the season with their top two WRs on the sideline.

I guess I'm also a little confused that he was potentially allowed to leave practice to play in an amateur baseball game. I was recruited to play baseball by Coach Denning and that is how I ended up at UST. However, when it was football season I played football. And yes, I missed the state amateur baseball tournament while I was in camp. I simply did not think it was as important as college football. And personally, I don't think it sends a good message to the rest of the players on the team.

How do you hold a non-scholarship, at-will, D3 player out of town team baseball?  The beauty of D3 sports is that, even for really good players, they don't have to control your life.

Again, I'm not sure why a D3 player has to be "allowed to leave practice."  And if you don't get why someone would want to miss practice for a State baseball game, then you just don't understand small-town town team baseball.

I will have to respectfully disagree. Yes, I would have held him out of amateur baseball. It's not like this guy was playing in the Northwoods League against D1 baseball players. But I must contend that you do not understand D3 college football. D3 football is about playing for the love of the game and for your teammates. No, you are not on an athletic scholarship and no one is in control of you and that's exactly what makes it beautiful. From February until the beginning of camp I busted my butt with my teammates. We lifted Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and did Acceleration Minnesota on Tuesday and Thursday until we literally puked (along with a few Royals I might add) not because anyone was telling us to but because we loved the game and we loved being around each other. Just because it's D3 football that does not mean that one should be less committed to the sport.

Now taking all of that into consideration, personally I would have found it offensive if someone was allowed to leave practice a week before we had our first football game. If you want to treat D3 football like a club sport that's on you. I have no problem with a guy playing amateur baseball the entire summer, just stop playing a week before the first football game.

[Tom Thumb]

Agreed-football has to take priority. Not a smart move.

Well, you don't break bones very often playing ball. He wasn't doing extreme sports, which seems designed to cause injury, so I think luck deserves blame more than he does.

You may not break any bones, but luck deserves the blame twice in one summer for SJU. I would have thought that after Sean Tillman suffered an injury earlier this amateur baseball season that SJU would have held Voshell out, especially considering the fact that Josh Bungum has been held out of practice with a pulled quad. Fortunately for SJU Bungum returned to practice this week. However, they were pretty close to starting the season with their top two WRs on the sideline.

I guess I'm also a little confused that he was potentially allowed to leave practice to play in an amateur baseball game. I was recruited to play baseball by Coach Denning and that is how I ended up at UST. However, when it was football season I played football. And yes, I missed the state amateur baseball tournament while I was in camp. I simply did not think it was as important as college football. And personally, I don't think it sends a good message to the rest of the players on the team.

How do you hold a non-scholarship, at-will, D3 player out of town team baseball?  The beauty of D3 sports is that, even for really good players, they don't have to control your life.

Again, I'm not sure why a D3 player has to be "allowed to leave practice."  And if you don't get why someone would want to miss practice for a State baseball game, then you just don't understand small-town town team baseball.

I have been watching this conversation from afar.  What if baseball is his number 1 priority and he has a chance to move up in baseball and possibly get signed after he is done with college?  I knew plenty of D3 football players who did not make football their number 1 priority, in fact I know of two when NJCU was JCSC who played basketball and would leave the football team before the season ended to play basketball.  Just because football may be someone else priority doesn't mean it is every football players.  I am sure Duff knew some who put more priority on wrestling over football and if they had to ultimately choose between the two would choose wrestling.

You make a fair point, but I do not believe it applies to this situation. As I mentioned above, Voshell does not play in the Northwoods League. In fact, Voshell does not even play varsity baseball for SJU which is further baffling to me. Thus, I guess I'm confused as to how baseball is his number one priority when he doesn't even play college baseball. There's no possibility of him getting signed after college. However, Josh Bungum does play baseball for SJU but I see he found a way to make it to football practice.

But I guess we're only talking about practice...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI