FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[sfury]

So, you failed the stand up comedy class? 
Does Faching have full contact during the week?

No. That's all the same.

He's talked about more doing individual position work in practice.

[ron doney]

From the NCAA:  http://www.ncaa.com/news/ncaa/article/2013-08-27/ncaa-announces-tighter-targeting-rules-take-effect-upcoming-season

So, with no video replay in D3, it is an auto eject.

This also contains info regarding the 10 second run off for an injury in the last minute of the half, as happened during the SJU/Augsburg tilt on Saturday.

This is why it's a bad rule IMO. It was clearly made with FCS in mind. And there have been numerous instances where the flag was thrown and the player, upon review, has not been thrown out. So clearly they realize they want to be able to throw the flag and recognize that the player wasn't being malicious.

But they are incapable of making this distinction at the D3 level. That's unfair to small college players. I would hope it makes officials in games without replay extremely cautious to throw a flag that mandates an ejection. 

Good point on the caution by the officials.  Speaking of which, go back and watch the official who there the flag on this play.  He spins around to see the play happening.  The defender doesn't come into view until the last second before the hit.  I suspect the official did not know if the defender had taken 2,3, or 6 steps to target the receiver.  Therefore I would have been expecting him to be a little bit more cautious.  The hit was a stinger no doubt. Looks like helmet to helmet contact was made. From the half second the official saw, he probably made the right call in his mind. But I'd argue to make that severe of a ruling you need to see more than half second of the play.  He should have realized this.

And if he'd seen more than half a second, I think he would have sided with those here who agree it was a big hit, but not targeting.  It was a classic over the middle catch and hit.  Looked to met like the defender went up to meet the jumping receiver, while the receiver cake down a bit quicker than the defender expected.  Other than that, nothing all too intentional.   Not like when you see a receiver come look down for a second to see the the top of the defenders helmet for a half second before the receiver's neck snaps back.....those are intentional.

[tommiegun]

It was somewhere in there. I started my freshman year in the Fall of 2003 and the upperclassmen were lamenting the passing of J-term. I thought they said the last one was January of 2002.

Ahh, J-term. 2 classes stand out in my mind: "How to Handle Executive Stress" and "Winter Activities", taught by the wrestling coach!

--Ecology of the Winter Prairie -- 3 weeks in January in Dickinson, N.D.
--Skiing at Powder Ridge
--Basically seeing how far you could get on a $165 unlimited monthly Greyhound pass (A lot of miles)
--Internship that actually fit my career

The one I spent on campus I spent whole time playing hoops in Rat and Palestra. And taking a military class, which consisted of writing a paper on...Operation Urgent Fury.

I had a jterm on the art of stand up comedy. After that I resolved to not waste jterm anymore.  So I had a class on the Irish influence on the classical liberal education. Unfortunately that class didn't include forks to poke my eyes out with. I had to round up my own forks.

I didn't register in time for J-Term my sophomore year and one of my friends and I ended up in something called "Environmental Literature."  The first day of class, the "professor" - approx. 60 yrs/old, believed in her heart it was 1965, wearing some sort of hemp garment, having long frizzlocks - walks in, sits down, lights an incense candle, takes a bell out of her hair, and slowly rings it.  She then says, "I like to start our time together not with the clanging of my voice, but with the soothing tones of this little bell (paraphrase).  Now, I would like you all to sit for the next ten minutes and ponder your connection to the natural world (direct quote)."  It was -5, my girlfriend was studying abroad in Britain, my best friend was studying abroad in Australia, and there was not enough beer in all of St. Paul for that month.  It still gives us the heeby-jeebies.

[ron doney]

Going back and watching the film, I'm suprised no one has mentioned the hits around O'Connell's injury.  The film follows the ball out of O'Connells hand, but you can see the defenders just before they hit O'Connell. The one at O'Connell's back goes high for the ball. The one at his front seems to trip or dive or fall at O'Connell's feet - might be the one guy who snapped O'Connell's leg. Anyhow between the two defenders the hits looked borderline like a high low.  Probably not intentional. Anyway, curious if anyone else saw the video and anything similar.....

[sfury]

Going back and watching the film, I'm suprised no one has mentioned the hits around O'Connell's injury.  The film follows the ball out of O'Connells hand, but you can see the defenders just before they hit O'Connell. The one at O'Connell's back goes high for the ball. The one at his front seems to trip or dive or fall at O'Connell's feet - might be the one guy who snapped O'Connell's leg. Anyhow between the two defenders the hits looked borderline like a high low.  Probably not intentional. Anyway, curious if anyone else saw the video and anything similar.....

Haven't seen the video but that exact type of play, the high-low, is how Linnemann broke his leg against Tommies in '99. Actually surprised it doesn't happen to QBs more often. Has there been official word on severity of O'Connell's injury?

[hazzben]

Going back and watching the film, I'm suprised no one has mentioned the hits around O'Connell's injury.  The film follows the ball out of O'Connells hand, but you can see the defenders just before they hit O'Connell. The one at O'Connell's back goes high for the ball. The one at his front seems to trip or dive or fall at O'Connell's feet - might be the one guy who snapped O'Connell's leg. Anyhow between the two defenders the hits looked borderline like a high low.  Probably not intentional. Anyway, curious if anyone else saw the video and anything similar.....

If the hit was late, it could've been flagged (I haven't seen the video). But there's no such thing as a 'high low' penalty against the defense (if that's what you were implying  ). As a defender you don't have to worry about not hitting a guy low if another guy is already hitting him high.

Still, a bummer for such a nasty injury.

[AO]

O'Connell looked like a runner as he stepped up into the pocket.  The act of stopping to throw right before he crossed the line of scrimmage left him vulnerable.  The D-Tackle who supplied the necessary force to cause the fracture looked shocked after the play, he was talking about hearing the break, etc..

[cobbernation]

...not so sure about an ejection...

Yeah, the ejection seems a bit extreme.

Isn't ejection mandatory when the penalty is called?  I was watching a college game on tv this weekend and a player was flagged for a similar hit and ejected.  I got the impression that the ejection was by rule.

No, not if there's video review anyway. If targeting is called, the penalty can stand, but they can rule not to eject the player. Happened in the Ole Miss - aTm game to an Ole Miss DB. He wasn't thrown out upon review. Should have happened in the Nebraska - Purdue game. Stanley Jean-Baptiste made a great play & hit on the RB on a pass in the flat. Great hit. RB was facing downfield. Flag came out and they didn't hold off on the suspension. Bad call on a good football play.

The targeting penalty in college football is a horrible rule.  The penalty stands no matter what, but a review can determine if the player stays in the game or warrants the ejection.  So if the player stays in the game, can't the penalty be overturned.  It's like being penalized for not committing a penalty.

Props to BU on destroying Cobbers this week.  I am thinking BU is the top of the MIAC right now with UST struggling this past weekend for their win.

[OzJohnnie]

@tommiegun

That's a classic jterm story. The school should pay you to sit through that crap and not vise versa.

[art76]

J-term story from my days at Bethel. I took an Art class to fill in an elective - it was a sculpture class. I had a blast - mainly because I was/am a motor head and got to play with the oxyacetylene torch and an old stick welder. There were not too many scrap pieces laying around when I got done making a piece. Easiest A I ever got.

[sfury]

Oz and Anthony Hopkins...both big Breaking Bad Fans.

Awesome fan letter Hopkins wrote to Bryan Cranston.

bit.ly/GVsRQX

[badgerwarhawk]

Hated to see the show end.

[OzJohnnie]

Hated to see the show end.

At first I didn't like the ending because I felt it glorified Walt a little too much.  But I've come to like it very much now as I don't think it did glorify him at all.  But I did like that he show wrapped up with a neat little bow.  The fact that there was not one shred of a happy ending in anything was nice, so to speak, because the show remained true to the end with no happy-happy smiley face (which would have made me go the full Heisenberg on my TV).

[repete]

Oz and Anthony Hopkins...both big Breaking Bad Fans.

Awesome fan letter Hopkins wrote to Bryan Cranston.

bit.ly/GVsRQX

Not unlike the letter I wrote to Cranston after "Malcolm in the Middle."

[faunch]

Going back and watching the film, I'm suprised no one has mentioned the hits around O'Connell's injury.  The film follows the ball out of O'Connells hand, but you can see the defenders just before they hit O'Connell. The one at O'Connell's back goes high for the ball. The one at his front seems to trip or dive or fall at O'Connell's feet - might be the one guy who snapped O'Connell's leg. Anyhow between the two defenders the hits looked borderline like a high low.  Probably not intentional. Anyway, curious if anyone else saw the video and anything similar.....

If the hit was late, it could've been flagged (I haven't seen the video). But there's no such thing as a 'high low' penalty against the defense (if that's what you were implying  ). As a defender you don't have to worry about not hitting a guy low if another guy is already hitting him high.

Still, a bummer for such a nasty injury.

We actually had a chop signaled against the defense on Friday night against Edina.  I didn't really get it and should probably check out the film to try to see what it was.