FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[USee]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Ok, where is his left hand? It's on the front side of the defender. If any part of a blocker is in front - then NO BLOCK IN THE BACK. You should just give it up - you are the only one here that thinks this was a block in the back.

I have no dog in the hunt, but watched the clip several times and did not see a penalty that should have been called.  I can imagine, however, that there are officials who would have thrown a flag depending on their angle, how long they saw the play, and what part of the play they saw.  Without video replay, we in DIII are always at the mercy of the officiating crew.  Here's to having a great crew at the game this coming Saturday!!

Hear, hear. It would also be nice if the officials know the rules. I realize this is DIII and refs don't get paid a whole lot, but it is their job to know the rules. I was really surprised after the blocked PAT was returned that all the officials huddled together and came to the conclusion that Bethel should be awarded only 1 point instead of 2. Even I know that there are only 2 ways get a single point in football, either a successful PAT or a safety on a PAT (or 2 point conversion) attempt. You've got what, 7 officials and none of them knew that it should have been 2 points?

I wonder what would have happened if someone from Bethel hadn't gotten confirmation and they had left it at 1 point and Wartburg would have scored a td at the end of the game and then kicked the extra point to win 34-33. Fortunately it didn't happen, but if it had then I'm sure all they would have done afterwards is say oops, we made a mistake but there isn't anything we can do about it. It really would have been a shame if Bethel had lost because of it.

I thought it was really unfortunate they didn't get the 2 pt call right since the awarding of 1pt is the reason Bethel went for 2 instead of 1 after their next TD! They thought there is no difference between a 4pt lead and a 5pt lead so go for 2 to make it a 6pt lead. If they knew the score was actrually 25-20 after their TD, instead of 24-20 they likely would have kicked and made it 26-20. At the time I thought the mistake by the officials could have been huge. That should not happen in a playoff game.

[art76]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Liar?  That's a pretty heady accusation from a dimwit.

It's pretty obvious to most here on this board that one must always "consider the source" before retorting. Go Thunder is obviously more of a "went fizzle" when it comes to observation, literary, and computer skills. (And I won't even get into the whole "let's throw some scripture behind my argument so it sounds like I know what I am talking about" discussion.) Even fellow CCIW posters have already disowned him/her.

Bethel beats North Central by 30 - at least. 

[Pat Coleman]

I swear, BU, that if you lose this weekend and this is the best of the post-season cross board banter we get then I'll revoke your post season privileges.  Playoff season comes with a bigger responsibility than just winning games.

Man ... that is just a setup waiting to be spiked.

[Pat Coleman]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Ok, where is his left hand? It's on the front side of the defender. If any part of a blocker is in front - then NO BLOCK IN THE BACK. You should just give it up - you are the only one here that thinks this was a block in the back.

I have no dog in the hunt, but watched the clip several times and did not see a penalty that should have been called.  I can imagine, however, that there are officials who would have thrown a flag depending on their angle, how long they saw the play, and what part of the play they saw.  Without video replay, we in DIII are always at the mercy of the officiating crew.  Here's to having a great crew at the game this coming Saturday!!

Hear, hear. It would also be nice if the officials know the rules. I realize this is DIII and refs don't get paid a whole lot, but it is their job to know the rules. I was really surprised after the blocked PAT was returned that all the officials huddled together and came to the conclusion that Bethel should be awarded only 1 point instead of 2. Even I know that there are only 2 ways get a single point in football, either a successful PAT or a safety on a PAT (or 2 point conversion) attempt. You've got what, 7 officials and none of them knew that it should have been 2 points?

I wonder what would have happened if someone from Bethel hadn't gotten confirmation and they had left it at 1 point and Wartburg would have scored a td at the end of the game and then kicked the extra point to win 34-33. Fortunately it didn't happen, but if it had then I'm sure all they would have done afterwards is say oops, we made a mistake but there isn't anything we can do about it. It really would have been a shame if Bethel had lost because of it.

I was told it was my text message with the rule number from the rulebook to our photographer at the game, who showed it to the NCAA rep. I seriously hope, though, that it would have gotten fixed without our input. Meanwhile, the fact that Bethel scored and went for two in the interim shows how dangerous even a temporary scoring error by the officials is.

[shepherd]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Liar?  That's a pretty heady accusation from a dimwit.

I have two degrees in electronics both 4.0/4.0 the first while working a full time job while being disabled from a semi truck pushing sideswiping my car into a ditch while flying through the windshield landing 20ft in front of my car.

[USee]

Go Thunder,

Let it go man. You made your point. People made their points. Let's move on.

[speedybigboy]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Ok, where is his left hand? It's on the front side of the defender. If any part of a blocker is in front - then NO BLOCK IN THE BACK. You should just give it up - you are the only one here that thinks this was a block in the back.

I have no dog in the hunt, but watched the clip several times and did not see a penalty that should have been called.  I can imagine, however, that there are officials who would have thrown a flag depending on their angle, how long they saw the play, and what part of the play they saw.  Without video replay, we in DIII are always at the mercy of the officiating crew.  Here's to having a great crew at the game this coming Saturday!!

Hear, hear. It would also be nice if the officials know the rules. I realize this is DIII and refs don't get paid a whole lot, but it is their job to know the rules. I was really surprised after the blocked PAT was returned that all the officials huddled together and came to the conclusion that Bethel should be awarded only 1 point instead of 2. Even I know that there are only 2 ways get a single point in football, either a successful PAT or a safety on a PAT (or 2 point conversion) attempt. You've got what, 7 officials and none of them knew that it should have been 2 points?

I wonder what would have happened if someone from Bethel hadn't gotten confirmation and they had left it at 1 point and Wartburg would have scored a td at the end of the game and then kicked the extra point to win 34-33. Fortunately it didn't happen, but if it had then I'm sure all they would have done afterwards is say oops, we made a mistake but there isn't anything we can do about it. It really would have been a shame if Bethel had lost because of it.

I thought it was really unfortunate they didn't get the 2 pt call right since the awarding of 1pt is the reason Bethel went for 2 instead of 1 after their next TD! They thought there is no difference between a 4pt lead and a 5pt lead so go for 2 to make it a 6pt lead. If they knew the score was actrually 25-20 after their TD, instead of 24-20 they likely would have kicked and made it 26-20. At the time I thought the mistake by the officials could have been huge. That should not happen in a playoff game.

Agree that the refs should get it right but I think "the book" on two point conversions would say go for 2 when you are up 5.

And I'm not a Royals fan, and I say the block was on the side.   

[OzJohnnie]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Liar?  That's a pretty heady accusation from a dimwit.

I have two degrees in electronics both 4.0/4.0 the first while working a full time job while being disabled from a semi truck pushing sideswiping my car into a ditch while flying through the windshield landing 20ft in front of my car.

Chicago Tommie?  Is that you?

EDIT:  And a second thought: Were you un-paralysed by the time you got to your second degree?

EDIT II:  I have two degrees in refrigeration.

[D O.C.]

That little Bethel push in the back controversy?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZOUes2PmFs

[bluenote]

That little Bethel push in the back controversy?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZOUes2PmFs

....what a trickster....LOL!!! 

[RoyalsFan]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Ok, where is his left hand? It's on the front side of the defender. If any part of a blocker is in front - then NO BLOCK IN THE BACK. You should just give it up - you are the only one here that thinks this was a block in the back.

I have no dog in the hunt, but watched the clip several times and did not see a penalty that should have been called.  I can imagine, however, that there are officials who would have thrown a flag depending on their angle, how long they saw the play, and what part of the play they saw.  Without video replay, we in DIII are always at the mercy of the officiating crew.  Here's to having a great crew at the game this coming Saturday!!

Hear, hear. It would also be nice if the officials know the rules. I realize this is DIII and refs don't get paid a whole lot, but it is their job to know the rules. I was really surprised after the blocked PAT was returned that all the officials huddled together and came to the conclusion that Bethel should be awarded only 1 point instead of 2. Even I know that there are only 2 ways get a single point in football, either a successful PAT or a safety on a PAT (or 2 point conversion) attempt. You've got what, 7 officials and none of them knew that it should have been 2 points?

I wonder what would have happened if someone from Bethel hadn't gotten confirmation and they had left it at 1 point and Wartburg would have scored a td at the end of the game and then kicked the extra point to win 34-33. Fortunately it didn't happen, but if it had then I'm sure all they would have done afterwards is say oops, we made a mistake but there isn't anything we can do about it. It really would have been a shame if Bethel had lost because of it.

I thought it was really unfortunate they didn't get the 2 pt call right since the awarding of 1pt is the reason Bethel went for 2 instead of 1 after their next TD! They thought there is no difference between a 4pt lead and a 5pt lead so go for 2 to make it a 6pt lead. If they knew the score was actrually 25-20 after their TD, instead of 24-20 they likely would have kicked and made it 26-20. At the time I thought the mistake by the officials could have been huge. That should not happen in a playoff game.

Coach J was asked in the post game interview if they would have still went for the 2 point conversion after their next td if the score would have been 25-20 instead of 24-20 and he said that they still would have as they would have wanted to be up by 7 points instead of 6.

[Pat Coleman]

Phew.

[BC79BU08]

"I was told it was my text message with the rule number from the rulebook to our photographer at the game, who showed it to the NCAA rep. I seriously hope, though, that it would have gotten fixed without our input. Meanwhile, the fact that Bethel scored and went for two in the interim shows how dangerous even a temporary scoring error by the officials is."

Heard from a coach that was in the booth that the MIAC representative looked it up.  Maybe after getting Pat's text.  In the end, the score did not make a difference.

[Pat Coleman]

In the end, the score did not make a difference.

Thank goodness for that -- last thing we want is another Bridgewater/Rowan debacle.
http://www.d3football.com/notables/best-finishes/when-time-stood-still

[ncc58]

What got my attention from that video clip is there doesn't seem to be a single blade of grass on that field!