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retagent

Quote from: Retired Old Rat on January 22, 2014, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on January 22, 2014, 09:52:25 AM
I just saw that Jakob Certeza left SJU.  Boo!  :'(

Freshman Running Back Leaves SJU

Winter must have been tough on his Californian blood.

That is a bummer.

I'm surprised Fasching commented that it was for academic reasons.  Seems like that didn't need to be said.

That could include that he made a change in his future plans, and SJU did not offer the route he wanted to follow.

Retired Old Rat

Quote from: retagent on January 22, 2014, 06:38:38 PM
Quote from: Retired Old Rat on January 22, 2014, 01:02:40 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on January 22, 2014, 09:52:25 AM
I just saw that Jakob Certeza left SJU.  Boo!  :'(

Freshman Running Back Leaves SJU

Winter must have been tough on his Californian blood.

That is a bummer.

I'm surprised Fasching commented that it was for academic reasons.  Seems like that didn't need to be said.

That could include that he made a change in his future plans, and SJU did not offer the route he wanted to follow.

True, but I bet your initial thought was that he couldn't cut it at SJU.
   
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I read that and I thought: lonely, a couple Withdrawals maybe, decided to go home rather than play ball.

Of course, I'm projecting my feelings into his situation.  I have no idea what it is.  But first semester Freshman year is just about the biggest cakewalk since pre-school so I really doubt he had a "couldn't cut the studies" problem.  If he had poor grades then I would tend to believe that was symptom of something else.

So, yeah, I'm probably 50/50 on poor grades or wants a different school for something SJU doesn't offer.
  

sjusection105

Quote from: MadRedFan on January 22, 2014, 12:36:43 PM
It is disappointing to see Certeza go.  The article does imply it was academic related and not "homesickness".   Altho they could be related I spose.

I hope Fasching and the boys have a some plans, because Certeza looked pretty good most of the time (did have "happy hands" here and there), and he and Sura together could have been sweet.  Sura is solid.  I don't remember anyone else with Certeza's size/power.  Maybe they'll have another freshman coming along who'll surprise us.
He was fun to watch,but as John used to say- "every year we have to replace irreplaceable players"
The J's also need a big-body WR and a TE who can catch........
As of now they're on DOUBLE SECRET Probation!

faunch

Quote from: sjusection105 on January 22, 2014, 07:57:59 PM
Quote from: MadRedFan on January 22, 2014, 12:36:43 PM
It is disappointing to see Certeza go.  The article does imply it was academic related and not "homesickness".   Altho they could be related I spose.

I hope Fasching and the boys have a some plans, because Certeza looked pretty good most of the time (did have "happy hands" here and there), and he and Sura together could have been sweet.  Sura is solid.  I don't remember anyone else with Certeza's size/power.  Maybe they'll have another freshman coming along who'll surprise us.
He was fun to watch,but as John used to say- "every year we have to replace irreplaceable players"
The J's also need a big-body WR and a TE who can catch........

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Quote from: art76 on January 22, 2014, 02:44:12 PM

I seem to recall that back in the day there was discussion for upping the point count on longer field goals as well.

Of course, any scoring records in the books will then be forever recorded with an asterisk.

I have a different view on field goals. While a longer field goal is more difficult for the kicker, I think the offense should be rewarded with more points the closer they get to the goal line. If you give more points for longer field goals, then teams may opt to go for long field goals instead of trying to get closer to the goal line.   

faunch

Quote from: RoyalsFan on January 22, 2014, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: art76 on January 22, 2014, 02:44:12 PM

I seem to recall that back in the day there was discussion for upping the point count on longer field goals as well.

Of course, any scoring records in the books will then be forever recorded with an asterisk.

I have a different view on field goals. While a longer field goal is more difficult for the kicker, I think the offense should be rewarded with more points the closer they get to the goal line. If you give more points for longer field goals, then teams may opt to go for long field goals instead of trying to get closer to the goal line.

Can't believe I agree w/ someone from / of BU but I do.
WTH is football always trying to change things.  Basketball is the same way...new rules every year.  Sports like Golf, rugby, Gaelic Hurling and Football, Cricket...they don't change rules all the damn time.


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Quote from: RoyalsFan on January 22, 2014, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: art76 on January 22, 2014, 02:44:12 PM

I seem to recall that back in the day there was discussion for upping the point count on longer field goals as well.

Of course, any scoring records in the books will then be forever recorded with an asterisk.

I have a different view on field goals. While a longer field goal is more difficult for the kicker, I think the offense should be rewarded with more points the closer they get to the goal line. If you give more points for longer field goals, then teams may opt to go for long field goals instead of trying to get closer to the goal line.   

Make the scale logarithmic and we can kill the goal line stand.  :D  (hopefully not overly sarcastic)

Actually, I argue for not changing it.  Fundamental fabric of the game, etc.  I think fiddling tends to undermine the nature of the thing we're hoping to improve - we'll turn football from a masculine contest of strength, speed and smarts into a bright shiny object.  "Progress" is not always better (if it were then the phrases "seconds thoughts", "hindsight is 20/20" and "lessons learned" would have never been invented).

  

AO

Quote from: faunch on January 22, 2014, 10:47:32 PM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on January 22, 2014, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: art76 on January 22, 2014, 02:44:12 PM

I seem to recall that back in the day there was discussion for upping the point count on longer field goals as well.

Of course, any scoring records in the books will then be forever recorded with an asterisk.

I have a different view on field goals. While a longer field goal is more difficult for the kicker, I think the offense should be rewarded with more points the closer they get to the goal line. If you give more points for longer field goals, then teams may opt to go for long field goals instead of trying to get closer to the goal line.

Can't believe I agree w/ someone from / of BU but I do.
WTH is football always trying to change things.  Basketball is the same way...new rules every year.  Sports like Golf, rugby, Gaelic Hurling and Football, Cricket...they don't change rules all the damn time.
golf and rugby rules probably were better from the start.  Basketball and football would be helped tremendously by eliminating timeouts.  If they could call offensive holding more often, maybe the defense could disrupt the new passing offenses.   I'd also give basketball teams the ability to decline fouls so no one is rewarded by fouling at the end of games.  Also, maybe a clock to speed up pitchers in baseball?

faunch

I recall a time when there was talk of raising the basket up to 12 feet in ball

How about the NFL adopt the same rule as the Irish when it comes to championships (hurling and football).  At the end of regulation if the score is tied they do a replay....meaning they all come back in a couple weeks and play another entire game.  That kind of happens in golf with US Open...don't they still play an extra 18 if they're all knotted up after 72 holes?


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Quote from: AO on January 22, 2014, 11:11:50 PM
golf and rugby rules probably were better from the start.  Basketball and football would be helped tremendously by eliminating timeouts.  If they could call offensive holding more often, maybe the defense could disrupt the new passing offenses.   I'd also give basketball teams the ability to decline fouls so no one is rewarded by fouling at the end of games.  Also, maybe a clock to speed up pitchers in baseball?

Actually, MLB already has a 12 second rule but you never see it enforced.

8.04
When the bases are unoccupied, the pitcher shall deliver the ball to the batter within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. Each time the pitcher delays the game by violating this rule, the umpire shall call “Ball.” The 12-second timing starts when the pitcher is in possession of the ball and the batter is in the box, alert to the pitcher. The timing stops when the pitcher releases the ball.
The intent of this rule is to avoid unnecessary delays. The umpire shall insist that the catcher return the ball promptly to the pitcher, and that the pitcher take his position on the rubber promptly. Obvious delay by the pitcher should instantly be penalized by the umpire.

AO

Quote from: RoyalsFan on January 23, 2014, 05:47:39 PM
Quote from: AO on January 22, 2014, 11:11:50 PM
golf and rugby rules probably were better from the start.  Basketball and football would be helped tremendously by eliminating timeouts.  If they could call offensive holding more often, maybe the defense could disrupt the new passing offenses.   I'd also give basketball teams the ability to decline fouls so no one is rewarded by fouling at the end of games.  Also, maybe a clock to speed up pitchers in baseball?

Actually, MLB already has a 12 second rule but you never see it enforced.

8.04
When the bases are unoccupied, the pitcher shall deliver the ball to the batter within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. Each time the pitcher delays the game by violating this rule, the umpire shall call "Ball." The 12-second timing starts when the pitcher is in possession of the ball and the batter is in the box, alert to the pitcher. The timing stops when the pitcher releases the ball.
The intent of this rule is to avoid unnecessary delays. The umpire shall insist that the catcher return the ball promptly to the pitcher, and that the pitcher take his position on the rubber promptly. Obvious delay by the pitcher should instantly be penalized by the umpire.
How about 5 seconds?