FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DuffMan]

Wow, no chatter for a showdown between 2-0 SJU and 2-0 Cobbs?  This should be a good test for the Johnnies.  Are they as good as they have appeared thus far, or are the Falcons and Blugolds that poor?

[AO]

Wow, no chatter for a showdown between 2-0 SJU and 2-0 Cobbs?  This should be a good test for the Johnnies.  Are they as good as they have appeared thus far, or are the Falcons and Blugolds that poor?

The big-game hype in Moorhead this weekend has to be all about #4 Montana coming to the dome.  Tickets in the highest rows are going for $150+ online.  Maybe the cobbers are overlooking a team they've beaten by 10 twice in a row?  Might be looking ahead to Bethel, the 2012 result still has to sting.

[SagatagSam]

I'm looking forward to this weekend's game. I think the Johnnies will squeak out a victory and prevent the Cobbers from winning three consecutive games against the Johnnies--which hasn't happened since Eisenhower was President.

[OzJohnnie]

I'm looking forward to this weekend's game. I think the Johnnies will squeak out a victory and prevent the Cobbers from winning three consecutive games against the Johnnies--which hasn't happened since Eisenhower was President.

Really?  I didn't know that fact. I'm going for a Johnnie victory this weekend as well. I've got a hunch this is a very good year.

[SagatagSam]

I'm looking forward to this weekend's game. I think the Johnnies will squeak out a victory and prevent the Cobbers from winning three consecutive games against the Johnnies--which hasn't happened since Eisenhower was President.

Really?  I didn't know that fact. I'm going for a Johnnie victory this weekend as well. I've got a hunch this is a very good year.

The last time the Johnnies went three consecutive years without a win against Concordia was 1990.
1988 -- 28-7 Loss in Collegeville
1989 -- 27-27 Tie in Moorhead
1990 -- 30-28 Loss at Metrodome

[sjusection105]

I felt like the Cobber game last year was a trap game. The Johnnies coming off an emotional win in St. Paul against USTd and then the hangover came & Concordia took care of business. This year the games are flip-flopped & the Cobbers are first on the schedule. What will happen? Will the Johnnies win both, split or limp out of the gate to start the MIAC season 0-2 (blasphemy). I'm cautiously optimistic. Is that noncommittal enough for a Johnnie fan....?

As far back as I can remember Concordia is the game I am most concerned about. Bethel,UST,Augsburg can be the fashionable pick,but Concordia is the football enthusiasts pick. Horan always puts together a tough squad,you just have to know what you are getting into when you lace 'em up agains the Cobbs.

Prediction- SJU 17 CCM 14 in OT

***I'm sad I have to miss the game to attend the wedding of a not too old SJU D-lineman All-American, but a good time will be had by all. I'll be in Cobber Country, Fergus Falls and listening on 1660 AM when I can,getting text updates when I can't.

[Mr.MIAC]

I haven't been to a UST game in quite some time and games streamed online don't always give an accurate representation of the proceedings. A friend who attends games in person tells me that the UST size advantage is obvious. I just did a few calculations based on roster data.  This is what I came up with when including the entire roster, calculating mean by position:

CB   180   5-9
DB   181   5-9
DL   248   6-1
FB   226   5-9
K   216   6-3
LB   208   6-1
LS   223   6-1
OL   297   6-3
P   199   6-2
QB   194   6-1
RB   190   5-8
TE   231   6-3
WR   184   6-0

Does anyone know how this compares to other MIAC teams?  How about the rest of DIII?

[DuffMan]

Well, that explains why they are so dominate [sic].

Really, though, those sizes don't stick out to me as too far out of line with norms.

[corn horn]

Oh where have all the Cobbers gone? Apparently over to the MIAC website crashing the play of the week. I've never been a real frequent flier here, but might need to pick it up a notch if the other Cobber posters have moved on to having a life!

Won't be able to get up to Collegeville, but I think this year's game should be very even and tough. In response to AO, I seriously, seriously doubt anyone in the maroon and gold is looking past this weekend and toward Bethel. Yes, 2012 still burns (I was there), but the history of burns at the hands of the Johnnies over the years is beyond compare. Always a respectful rivalry.

SJU running back looks like the real deal. I seriously doubt Concordia will be able to stuff the run the way they have in the non-conference games, but that will be the key to humbling the faithful in the bowl. Looking forward to a sweet matchup!

[faunch]

I haven't been to a UST game in quite some time and games streamed online don't always give an accurate representation of the proceedings. A friend who attends games in person tells me that the UST size advantage is obvious. I just did a few calculations based on roster data.  This is what I came up with when including the entire roster, calculating mean by position:

CB   180   5-9
DB   181   5-9
DL   248   6-1
FB   226   5-9
K   216   6-3
LB   208   6-1
LS   223   6-1
OL   297   6-3
P   199   6-2
QB   194   6-1
RB   190   5-8
TE   231   6-3
WR   184   6-0

Does anyone know how this compares to other MIAC teams?  How about the rest of DIII?

Do a little research on the Mount Union O-line that SJU handled in the 2003 Championship...I like to believe what my wife tells me...size doesn't always matter. 

[SagatagSam]

I haven't been to a UST game in quite some time and games streamed online don't always give an accurate representation of the proceedings. A friend who attends games in person tells me that the UST size advantage is obvious. I just did a few calculations based on roster data.  This is what I came up with when including the entire roster, calculating mean by position:

CB   180   5-9
DB   181   5-9
DL   248   6-1
FB   226   5-9
K   216   6-3
LB   208   6-1
LS   223   6-1
OL   297   6-3
P   199   6-2
QB   194   6-1
RB   190   5-8
TE   231   6-3
WR   184   6-0

Does anyone know how this compares to other MIAC teams?  How about the rest of DIII?

Do a little research on the Mount Union O-line that SJU handled in the 2003 Championship...I like to believe what my wife tells me...size doesn't always matter. 

I seem to remember SJU's defensive line being outweighed by the UWEC offensive line something like 301 lbs to 233.

That's the best I've got after Faunch beat me to the '03 National Championship game comparison.

[faunch]

I haven't been to a UST game in quite some time and games streamed online don't always give an accurate representation of the proceedings. A friend who attends games in person tells me that the UST size advantage is obvious. I just did a few calculations based on roster data.  This is what I came up with when including the entire roster, calculating mean by position:

CB   180   5-9
DB   181   5-9
DL   248   6-1
FB   226   5-9
K   216   6-3
LB   208   6-1
LS   223   6-1
OL   297   6-3
P   199   6-2
QB   194   6-1
RB   190   5-8
TE   231   6-3
WR   184   6-0

Does anyone know how this compares to other MIAC teams?  How about the rest of DIII?

Do a little research on the Mount Union O-line that SJU handled in the 2003 Championship...I like to believe what my wife tells me...size doesn't always matter. 

I seem to remember SJU's defensive line being outweighed by the UWEC offensive line something like 301 lbs to 233.

That's the best I've got after Faunch beat me to the '03 National Championship game comparison.

Jaysus

[Mr.MIAC]

I haven't been to a UST game in quite some time and games streamed online don't always give an accurate representation of the proceedings. A friend who attends games in person tells me that the UST size advantage is obvious. I just did a few calculations based on roster data.  This is what I came up with when including the entire roster, calculating mean by position:

CB   180   5-9
DB   181   5-9
DL   248   6-1
FB   226   5-9
K   216   6-3
LB   208   6-1
LS   223   6-1
OL   297   6-3
P   199   6-2
QB   194   6-1
RB   190   5-8
TE   231   6-3
WR   184   6-0

Does anyone know how this compares to other MIAC teams?  How about the rest of DIII?

Do a little research on the Mount Union O-line that SJU handled in the 2003 Championship...I like to believe what my wife tells me...size doesn't always matter. 

I seem to remember SJU's defensive line being outweighed by the UWEC offensive line something like 301 lbs to 233.

That's the best I've got after Faunch beat me to the '03 National Championship game comparison.

Jaysus

Well, I'm not really making any claims about the benefits of size one way or the other, though it should be said that no complaints have been voiced to my knowledge (read that how you will). I'm trying to figure out if UST is really bigger than other teams or if it's just a myth.

[OzJohnnie]

Man, what a game. Hawthorn make it through to the Grand Final where they play Sydney next week at the MCG. It's the classic championship match: the best offence (Hawthorn) vs the best defence (Sydney). The two teams split their matches during the regular season. It will be a hell of a game.

Here are the last two thrilling minutes of tonight's Hawthorn v Port Adelaide Preliminary Final:

http://youtu.be/zjTpODtkHj4

[SagatagSam]

I haven't been to a UST game in quite some time and games streamed online don't always give an accurate representation of the proceedings. A friend who attends games in person tells me that the UST size advantage is obvious. I just did a few calculations based on roster data.  This is what I came up with when including the entire roster, calculating mean by position:

CB   180   5-9
DB   181   5-9
DL   248   6-1
FB   226   5-9
K   216   6-3
LB   208   6-1
LS   223   6-1
OL   297   6-3
P   199   6-2
QB   194   6-1
RB   190   5-8
TE   231   6-3
WR   184   6-0

Does anyone know how this compares to other MIAC teams?  How about the rest of DIII?

Do a little research on the Mount Union O-line that SJU handled in the 2003 Championship...I like to believe what my wife tells me...size doesn't always matter. 

I seem to remember SJU's defensive line being outweighed by the UWEC offensive line something like 301 lbs to 233.

That's the best I've got after Faunch beat me to the '03 National Championship game comparison.

Jaysus

Well, I'm not really making any claims about the benefits of size one way or the other, though it should be said that no complaints have been voiced to my knowledge (read that how you will). I'm trying to figure out if UST is really bigger than other teams or if it's just a myth.

Based on looking at SJU's size matchup with Concordia this weekend, UST is larger than your average MIAC team.
Offensive Lines: SJU 283, CC 265
Defensive Lines: SJU 233, CC 258