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[badgerwarhawk]

Merry Christmas to all of you

[GoldandBlueBU]

The nice part about D3 football is that we know who is best because they prove it on the field.  While it may seem worthwhile to squabble over who deserves #3 or #4, I don't see the point.  There is no trophy for third place.

Oh really?

[GoldandBlueBU]

Nice little writeup from Ruesse about Jesse Phenow...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/286908291.html

[art76]

Nice little writeup from Ruesse about Jesse Phenow...

http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/286908291.html

Thanx for sharing!

[OzJohnnie]

The family Oz had a great Christmas down at the beach.  Here's #'s 1 & 2 jumping at sunset with a cousin in the middle.



I hope you were all on the good list and got nice presents for Christmas.  And here's to an early Happy New Year.

[Mr.MIAC]

So we had an interesting football conversation over the Holiday dinner table and someone asked a question beyond my NCAA knowledge. I figure someone here can help. Why can't schools field DI and DIII football teams? I'm assuming there's some sort of NCAA regulation that requires schools to field a football team in only one division. If so, what's the reason for such a regulation? By way of example, we were talking about Stanford, which attracts DI caliber talent through athletic scholarships but has lots of DIII caliber kids on academic scholarships. In short, why don't DI schools have "JV" teams that play DIII?

[Pat Coleman]

There are rules associated with each division that the entire school has to follow. I don't know how that could play out.

[sjusection105]

Perhaps Title Nine has something to do with it. This article talks vaguely about the number of men's & women's sports in Division 1- if a school had 2 football teams that would cause a problem.
http://youngadults.about.com/od/collegeprep/g/ncaadivisioni.htm

[SagatagSam]

I would imagine that a kid going to a D1 school for academics with D3 ability is going to that D1 school because playing an NCAA sport simply isn't a priority.
Club teams at D1 schools are more than enough to quench the competitive thirst of a D3 kid that still carries a love of the his/her game.

Allowing D1 schools to field a D3 "JV" squad would be a nightmare to regulate. Aside from the regulation nightmare, it would be a ton of work for very little return. Most D1 schools don't want to waste money fielding (and funding) a D3 sport. There are only a few sports at a select number of schools that even break even financially at the D1 level.

There are 450 D3 schools as it stands right now. Do we really need another batch to put us over 500?

[Mr. Ypsi]

And there is nothing that says the club team can't play as many d3 teams as are willing to play them.  While it wouldn't really count for the d3 team, there may be some who would think 'playing Stanford' is pretty cool, even if it is a club team.

[AO]

Club teams at D1 schools are more than enough to quench the competitive thirst of a D3 kid that still carries a love of the his/her game.

I doubt that is true for football players.  There appears to be less than 30 club football teams. 

After a little more research the club teams also play their title game in Salem.

There are only a few sports at a select number of schools that even break even financially at the D1 level.

I would say that the vast majority of Football and Men's Basketball teams are profitable especially when you consider the revenue sharing from the bowl games and march madness that is distributed to the schools through the conferences. The relatively poor schools can make millions by playing away games in the non-conference season.

[OldAuggie]

There are only a few sports at a select number of schools that even break even financially at the D1 level.

I would say that the vast majority of Football and Men's Basketball teams are profitable especially when you consider the revenue sharing from the bowl games and march madness that is distributed to the schools through the conferences. The relatively poor schools can make millions by playing away games in the non-conference season.

Some conferences are more profitable than others:

Jim Delaney added Jim Harbaugh to #B1G... Have heard from reputable source he thinks new TV deal will be $50m per school avg- not kidding
— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) December 29, 2014

[SagatagSam]

I would say that the vast majority of Football and Men's Basketball teams are profitable especially when you consider the revenue sharing from the bowl games and march madness that is distributed to the schools through the conferences. The relatively poor schools can make millions by playing away games in the non-conference season.

But, not profitable enough to create a JV/club program that would be eligible to compete for an NCAA Championship at another level.

A quick look of 2010 statistics showed that of 346 NCAA D1 basketball teams, 203 (58%) were at break-even or below.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news/companies/basketball_profits/

[AO]

I would say that the vast majority of Football and Men's Basketball teams are profitable especially when you consider the revenue sharing from the bowl games and march madness that is distributed to the schools through the conferences. The relatively poor schools can make millions by playing away games in the non-conference season.

But, not profitable enough to create a JV/club program that would be eligible to compete for an NCAA Championship at another level.

A quick look of 2010 statistics showed that of 346 NCAA D1 basketball teams, 203 (58%) were at break-even or below.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news/companies/basketball_profits/

Those numbers are laughable.

"The comparison between basketball revenues and profits is interesting, but not precise. That's because schools have latitude in their filings with the Department of Education in whether they attribute some expenses and revenues to a specific sport or a more general classification for their entire athletic department."
Like I mentioned they probably are counting the March Madness money as going to the entire department rather than the Basketball team.  They also will split up the sponsorship money equally among all sports regardless of which sports actually "earned" the sponsorship.  Athletic Departments aren't attempting to turn profits.  They try to spend every last dollar on every sport they can.

[sjusection105]

I would say that the vast majority of Football and Men's Basketball teams are profitable especially when you consider the revenue sharing from the bowl games and march madness that is distributed to the schools through the conferences. The relatively poor schools can make millions by playing away games in the non-conference season.

But, not profitable enough to create a JV/club program that would be eligible to compete for an NCAA Championship at another level.

A quick look of 2010 statistics showed that of 346 NCAA D1 basketball teams, 203 (58%) were at break-even or below.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news/companies/basketball_profits/

How does Duke "lose" $2M and the Gophers "make" $7.8M ;is the Big Ten revenue sharing plan that much better than the ACC plan?