FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DuffMan]

I'm not too sure on whether or not these students are eligible for the football team.

The article states:

They'll also be able to participate in all St. Thomas activities but one: They can't play in Division III sports teams, which are restricted to students in four-year degree programs, officials said.

[Mr.MIAC]

I'm not too sure on whether or not these students are eligible for the football team.

The article states:

They'll also be able to participate in all St. Thomas activities but one: They can't play in Division III sports teams, which are restricted to students in four-year degree programs, officials said.

Understood. The thing is that I've heard conflicting reports on that since the announcement. Can anyone here help clarify?

[DuffMan]

Understood. The thing is that I've heard conflicting reports on that since the announcement. Can anyone here help clarify?

A different article that I read last night mentioned that they can play intramurals and club sports but made no mention of NCAA sports.  My gut tells me that they could not participate in NCAA D3 sports.

[faunch]

UST has officially launched it's junior college, named after alum and major donor Mike Dougherty. It's planned to open with an initial intake of 150 students and an endowment of roughly $20 million ($18 million has already been raised). I'm not too sure on whether or not these students are eligible for the football team.

http://www.startribune.com/university-of-st-thomas-to-launch-2-year-college-for-low-income-students/401745535/

I would say no...if they are or if U$T tries to allow them on the team I believe the MIAC schools would object.  If that is their objective it (which I don't believe it is) they should look for another league.

[BDB]

.      Candy bottoms!!!

I almost had to "Report to Moderator" on you for this one 57. 

[AO]

AO;

My apologies. I just discovered that this is Northwestrn's first trip to the playoffs. An article on d3football.com tipped me off. Congratulations and good luck.  I reckon the Eagles will get spanked something fierce but I'll keep my fingers crossed for you against the Tommies.

Thanks Oz.  It will be a fun game to watch tomorrow, weather and all.

[BDB]

AO;

My apologies. I just discovered that this is Northwestrn's first trip to the playoffs. An article on d3football.com tipped me off. Congratulations and good luck.  I reckon the Eagles will get spanked something fierce but I'll keep my fingers crossed for you against the Tommies.

Thanks Oz.  It will be a fun game to watch tomorrow, weather and all.

And a shout out to Northwestern for having their Women's Volleyball team in the Final Four this weekend. Good luck to them!

[art76]

From the Around the Nation column entitled "Playoff picks, surprises and disappointments" from the St. Thomas bracket Surprises: "Pat: UW-Platteville. There's more than enough firepower here to get the Pioneers into the second round. The battle with St. John's will definitely be worthy of two highly ranked teams, though, and there's no shame in going out in the first round. Pretend you're from Texas."

The Johnnie/Pioneer game has all the makings of being a great game in round one of this tourney, and might be one for the ages as a pivotal point in an unexpected deep run to Salem from either of these two teams. No matter how you cut the pie, if you want to play for the national championship, your team has to play the other best teams in the country 5 weeks running.

[57Johnnie]

 

.      Candy bottoms!!!

I almost had to "Report to Moderator" on you for this one 57. 

I noted the 'almost' but Johnnies of my vintage have received amnesty with respect to PC. 
Times were really tough since nobody got to cut class when Eisenhower got re-elected. 

[RoyalsFan]

From the Around the Nation column entitled "Playoff picks, surprises and disappointments" from the St. Thomas bracket Surprises: "Pat: UW-Platteville. There's more than enough firepower here to get the Pioneers into the second round. The battle with St. John's will definitely be worthy of two highly ranked teams, though, and there's no shame in going out in the first round. Pretend you're from Texas."

The Johnnie/Pioneer game has all the makings of being a great game in round one of this tourney, and might be one for the ages as a pivotal point in an unexpected deep run to Salem from either of these two teams. No matter how you cut the pie, if you want to play for the national championship, your team has to play the other best teams in the country 5 weeks running.

I can't totally agree with that statement. With automatic qualifiers, the playoffs do not have the top 32 teams in the country. There are a few teams that are going to have cup cakes that don't belong for the first round or two.

[art76]

I can't totally agree with that statement. With automatic qualifiers, the playoffs do not have the top 32 teams in the country. There are a few teams that are going to have cup cakes that don't belong for the first round or two.

I chose the word "best" carefully - it is ambiguous by nature. AQs are the best in their respective conferences - though they may not be the one of the 'best" 32 teams in the nation.

[Mr.MIAC]

UST has officially launched it's junior college, named after alum and major donor Mike Dougherty. It's planned to open with an initial intake of 150 students and an endowment of roughly $20 million ($18 million has already been raised). I'm not too sure on whether or not these students are eligible for the football team.

http://www.startribune.com/university-of-st-thomas-to-launch-2-year-college-for-low-income-students/401745535/

I would say no...if they are or if U$T tries to allow them on the team I believe the MIAC schools would object.  If that is their objective it (which I don't believe it is) they should look for another league.

I'm thinking you guys are right. The new college's website states that students will be able to play intramural sports and use UST athletic training facilities, but there's no mention of varsity athletics.

The administration held consultations across campus during the planning phase for this new college. I'm sure athletic administrators and coaches provided input. I wonder if there are any plans to tap this new pool of students as transfer athletes.

What are your thoughts on this scenario? Admission to the new college will be competitive, with candidates undergoing a series of formal interviews focused on sussing out their "grit and determination" and showing a serious financial need. However, the minimum GPA has been set at 2.5 and no ACT/SAT score is required. It seems like plenty of outstanding athletes might fit this profile. UST administrators have stated that the aim is for students to move on and complete a bachelor's degree at UST's main campus after finishing their associate's degree at the new college. Students coming in from the new college would be considered transfers, so their low high school GPAs and lack of ACT/SAT scores wouldn't count against UST's selectivity. Students at the new college can play intramural sports and use UST athletic training facilities, which means they'll be in regular, direct contact with varsity athletes at UST. If you recall, Roberts joined the football team after befriending varsity players working out at the training facilities and playing intramural football. It seems like UST football could benefit from this new college in two ways: 1) they can help place hot prospects in the new college and groom them until they're really to transfer and join the varsity team and 2) they have an additional pool of potential recruits, some of whom might be very strong athletes, with an existing affinity for UST.

[miac952]

UST has officially launched it's junior college, named after alum and major donor Mike Dougherty. It's planned to open with an initial intake of 150 students and an endowment of roughly $20 million ($18 million has already been raised). I'm not too sure on whether or not these students are eligible for the football team.

http://www.startribune.com/university-of-st-thomas-to-launch-2-year-college-for-low-income-students/401745535/

I would say no...if they are or if U$T tries to allow them on the team I believe the MIAC schools would object.  If that is their objective it (which I don't believe it is) they should look for another league.

Correct. It will be a completely separate school as a 2yr jr college. They can participate in intramural's or could have their own athletics down the road potentially and jump in with the RCTC's of the world, but would not be eligible for any DIII athletic until they became enrolled in the 4 year program at the university.

On a separate note, I had heard rumors of this coming to fruition and after dwelling on it I really like it. The university education model is broken, especially when it comes to cost. Large public institutions aren't doing much to break the cycle. So, it is nice to see private universities at least trying to think outside the box at new education models. This serves a far greater need than the medical school talks that have been on and off at UST. They can utilize many of the fixed costs already in place (buildings, equipment, etc.) to tap into this student base. They leaned heavily on Cristo Rey's jesuit administration locally to model this, and looked at what Loyola in Chicago launched a couple years back as well. I really hope it is a success.

[Mr.MIAC]

UST has officially launched it's junior college, named after alum and major donor Mike Dougherty. It's planned to open with an initial intake of 150 students and an endowment of roughly $20 million ($18 million has already been raised). I'm not too sure on whether or not these students are eligible for the football team.

http://www.startribune.com/university-of-st-thomas-to-launch-2-year-college-for-low-income-students/401745535/

I would say no...if they are or if U$T tries to allow them on the team I believe the MIAC schools would object.  If that is their objective it (which I don't believe it is) they should look for another league.

Correct. It will be a completely separate school as a 2yr jr college. They can participate in intramural's or could have their own athletics down the road potentially and jump in with the RCTC's of the world, but would not be eligible for any DIII athletic until they became enrolled in the 4 year program at the university.

On a separate note, I had heard rumors of this coming to fruition and after dwelling on it I really like it. The university education model is broken, especially when it comes to cost. Large public institutions aren't doing much to break the cycle. So, it is nice to see private universities at least trying to think outside the box at new education models. This serves a far greater need than the medical school talks that have been on and off at UST. They can utilize many of the fixed costs already in place (buildings, equipment, etc.) to tap into this student base. They leaned heavily on Cristo Rey's jesuit administration locally to model this, and looked at what Loyola in Chicago launched a couple years back as well. I really hope it is a success.

Speaking of a UST medical school, the last I heard on that front was that UST was talking with the Mayo Medical School about a partnership. That was after UST decided against opening one of their own. It seemed to make sense since Mayo wants to grow its numbers and expand into the Twin Cities, and UST is a major university looking to have a medical school. Have you heard anything on this lately? 

[57Johnnie]

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