FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[HansenRatings]

This poor person:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginger-hammer-522ba291/

[APPLAUD]

[OzJohnnie]

Ha!  Pat with post of the off season.

[miac952]

D3 has the slogan Why D3. Maybe this could be categorized as why not to do D1?

http://www.startribune.com/report-university-of-north-dakota-to-cut-women-s-hockey-program/417493423/

This comes on the heels of cutting baseball last year. There is some suspicion they are cranking the levers to max out and fully fund the big sports: Hockey, Football, and Basketball. This at the expense of "non-revenue" sports of course.

Maybe Mr. Bench has some insight.

[GoldandBlueBU]

D3 has the slogan Why D3. Maybe this could be categorized as why not to do D1?

http://www.startribune.com/report-university-of-north-dakota-to-cut-women-s-hockey-program/417493423/

This comes on the heels of cutting baseball last year. There is some suspicion they are cranking the levers to max out and fully fund the big sports: Hockey, Football, and Basketball. This at the expense of "non-revenue" sports of course.

Maybe Mr. Bench has some insight.

Chris Long has had some interesting tweets on the subject - this one shows the Gopher's profit / loss by sport.

In some other tweets he pulled the UND info as well.

https://twitter.com/chrislongkstp/status/847294249544503298

Basically, for the U, basketball is fairly profitable, hockey is profitable, though not as much, and Football makes all of the money and pays the bills for the other sports and then some.

[miac952]

D3 has the slogan Why D3. Maybe this could be categorized as why not to do D1?

http://www.startribune.com/report-university-of-north-dakota-to-cut-women-s-hockey-program/417493423/

This comes on the heels of cutting baseball last year. There is some suspicion they are cranking the levers to max out and fully fund the big sports: Hockey, Football, and Basketball. This at the expense of "non-revenue" sports of course.

Maybe Mr. Bench has some insight.

Chris Long has had some interesting tweets on the subject - this one shows the Gopher's profit / loss by sport.

In some other tweets he pulled the UND info as well.

https://twitter.com/chrislongkstp/status/847294249544503298

Basically, for the U, basketball is fairly profitable, hockey is profitable, though not as much, and Football makes all of the money and pays the bills for the other sports and then some.

Football feeds the school, even for school's like MN, where there hasn't been much success. The equally shared TV contract's have helped the Gophers big time.

What is astounding, but not completely surprising, is Rowing. What a colossal boondoggle that was. The deficit is unbelievable. I don't know if it was a Maturi or Voelz move. I get the need to add a Women's sport, but what about Field Hockey or Lacrosse? You don't need an expensive boat house, and costly boats you have to transport to meets thousands of miles away with frequency since no other regional schools event participate in it. I would guess a field hockey or Lacrosse would have expenses more in line with Tennis or Golf and you would be on the + side a milion + a year.

[HansenRatings]

You don't need an expensive boat house, and costly boats you have to transport to meets thousands of miles away with frequency since no other regional schools event participate in it.

The Big Ten sponsors rowing, and Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Rutgers all sponsor women's rowing. Wisconsin pretty much dominates it, and I know they barely give any money for scholarships, so I'm not sure where all of the expenses are from.

EDIT: I looked it up, and the Gophers give about 20 scholarship equivalents for rowing (for perspective, they provide about 12 for baseball, with roughly the same number of Varsity athletes on each squad), totaling over $500k. And there's this:

[BDB]

Dear Oz,

People down under are nutz.

http://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/australians-surfing-in-flood-waters-is-peak-australia/?utm_campaign=SocialflowTw&utm_source=BarstoolTw&utm_medium=Socialflow

Regards,

BDB

[AO]

You don't need an expensive boat house, and costly boats you have to transport to meets thousands of miles away with frequency since no other regional schools event participate in it.

The Big Ten sponsors rowing, and Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Rutgers all sponsor women's rowing. Wisconsin pretty much dominates it, and I know they barely give any money for scholarships, so I'm not sure where all of the expenses are from.

EDIT: I looked it up, and the Gophers give about 20 scholarship equivalents for rowing (for perspective, they provide about 12 for baseball, with roughly the same number of Varsity athletes on each squad), totaling over $500k. And there's this:

Was about to correct you before noticing the edit.  Since there are no real rowing programs for high schoolers in Minnesota, the rowing coaches do literally walk around campus looking for athletic girls to offer half-scholarships to.  From a Reusse article this past fall:

"Anna Greene is a senior from New Brighton and the stroke for the "A" boat. Her athletic activities at Irondale High were golf and marching band. She was at a campus event for freshmen early in the fall when a rowing assistant approached and said:

"You're a tall girl [5-foot-11]. You should give rowing a try.''"

[OldAuggie]

You don't need an expensive boat house, and costly boats you have to transport to meets thousands of miles away with frequency since no other regional schools event participate in it.

The Big Ten sponsors rowing, and Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, and Rutgers all sponsor women's rowing. Wisconsin pretty much dominates it, and I know they barely give any money for scholarships, so I'm not sure where all of the expenses are from.

EDIT: I looked it up, and the Gophers give about 20 scholarship equivalents for rowing (for perspective, they provide about 12 for baseball, with roughly the same number of Varsity athletes on each squad), totaling over $500k. And there's this:

Was about to correct you before noticing the edit.  Since there are no real rowing programs for high schoolers in Minnesota, the rowing coaches do literally walk around campus looking for athletic girls to offer half-scholarships to.  From a Reusse article this past fall:

"Anna Greene is a senior from New Brighton and the stroke for the "A" boat. Her athletic activities at Irondale High were golf and marching band. She was at a campus event for freshmen early in the fall when a rowing assistant approached and said:

"You're a tall girl [5-foot-11]. You should give rowing a try.''"

It is true. My father was recruited for the rowing team at Cal Berkely while standing in the registration line.

[OzJohnnie]

Dear Oz,

People down under are nutz.

http://www.barstoolsports.com/newyork/australians-surfing-in-flood-waters-is-peak-australia/?utm_campaign=SocialflowTw&utm_source=BarstoolTw&utm_medium=Socialflow

Regards,

BDB

There is a saying here that too much heat and humidity cooks the brains of Queenslanders.  Yep.  I think that's true.

[Smitty Oom]

I will add two things...

1) I know that just about every High Schooler in the Midwest that participated in athletics received a letter from Wisconsin "recruiting" you to their rowing camps during the summer in hopes you would attend UW-Madison and row for their team collegiately. My HS Cross-Country teammates got these letters as did some of my fellow Cobber Bball players from North Dakota when they were in HS. I know we are talking Women's rowing, and some of the female HS athletes received these letters as well.

2) Surprised that Volleyball was not profitable as of late for the Gophers. One of the best programs in the nation and they usually sold out The Pav for home games!

[GoldandBlueBU]

I can't quite understand how womens tennis only makes $3800 / yr.  I would've guessed they'd make at least a little money on friends coming to watch them play?  Maybe they don't charge for admission?

[retagent]

Though many years (49 to be exact) I remember our starting QB, who also started on the B Ball team and was a starting pitcher, received a letter from Brown (I think) recruiting him to row there.

[OldAuggie]

The one detail I left out of my rowing team post is that my old man actually was on the Cal Crew team in the 50's which has been a legit dynasty in the sport. 

[retagent]

I just now noticed the Front Page Survey question. A small nit to pick. The question asked which of the two teams who were in the Stagg Bowl last year is most likely to return. Grammatically, it should be "MORE" likely. C'mon Pat. You're better than that.