FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DFWCrufan]

We tend to be more difficult on ourselves rather than the opposition.

[jamtod]

FYI All, Plum's will be streaming the UST/UMHB game on Saturday.

Oooooo tempting. I was planning a little game watch party at my house, but my space is a little more limited (and smaller TV screen). Thanks for the heads up.

[MiacMan]

FYI All, Plum's will be streaming the UST/UMHB game on Saturday.

Oooooo tempting. I was planning a little game watch party at my house, but my space is a little more limited (and smaller TV screen). Thanks for the heads up.

Cool, hopefully there will be a nice crowd of MIAC Fans there!

[OldAuggie]

We tend to be more difficult on ourselves rather than the opposition.

Like Hockey in Minnesota, the level of football in Texas speaks for itself.

[miac952]

I concur on this UMHB group being a solid bunch. My game prediction is a close 20 - 14 type game. If UST's defense and special teams can give the offense a couple short fields they have a shot. If UMHB doesn't turn the ball over and holds strong in special teams they win.

What's with the Mount folks all up in arms with our Tommie bunch. When I poke my head over on the OAC board, they are fighting with each other more than anything else. It's entertaining to watch from afar. In related news Mo Clarett has some eligibility left. Waiting on word out of Alliance if the NCAA is ok with an ankle monitoring system being considered a part of the uniform. 

OldAuggie, I really want to get into MIAC hockey, but have always had a hard time. It's rare to find an 18-19 year old freshman in the MIAC anymore. All the schools have gone the east coast / St Norbert's route of bringing in the 20+ year old jr hockey guys with receding hair lines.  They go the jr route in hopes of chasing D1 dreams and then land in the MIAC as 20 or 21 year old freshman, with little connection with other athletes on campus or the school itself.

[USTBench]

I concur on this UMHB group being a solid bunch. My game prediction is a close 20 - 14 type game. If UST's defense and special teams can give the offense a couple short fields they have a shot. If UMHB doesn't turn the ball over and holds strong in special teams they win.

What's with the Mount folks all up in arms with our Tommie bunch. When I poke my head over on the OAC board, they are fighting with each other more than anything else. It's entertaining to watch from afar. In related news Mo Clarett has some eligibility left. Waiting on word out of Alliance if the NCAA is ok with an ankle monitoring system being considered a part of the uniform. 

OldAuggie, I really want to get into MIAC hockey, but have always had a hard time. It's rare to find an 18-19 year old freshman in the MIAC anymore. All the schools have gone the east coast / St Norbert's route of bringing in the 20+ year old jr hockey guys with receding hair lines.  They go the jr route in hopes of chasing D1 dreams and then land in the MIAC as 20 or 21 year old freshman, with little connection with other athletes on campus or the school itself.

MUC57 challenged the credibility of the lawyers posting and compared us to used car salesmen, and I'm not sure why. I recited the Florida statute on felony battery word-for-word. The other lawyer Frank Rossi (I believe), simply took a screen shot of the disposition of his case and posted it. Those things are facts.

My opinion is that Fulford should sit until his pending felony is resolved and his warrants are taken care of.

Not sure what any of it has to do with our credibility.

[jamtod]

I concur on this UMHB group being a solid bunch. My game prediction is a close 20 - 14 type game. If UST's defense and special teams can give the offense a couple short fields they have a shot. If UMHB doesn't turn the ball over and holds strong in special teams they win.

What's with the Mount folks all up in arms with our Tommie bunch. When I poke my head over on the OAC board, they are fighting with each other more than anything else. It's entertaining to watch from afar. In related news Mo Clarett has some eligibility left. Waiting on word out of Alliance if the NCAA is ok with an ankle monitoring system being considered a part of the uniform. 

OldAuggie, I really want to get into MIAC hockey, but have always had a hard time. It's rare to find an 18-19 year old freshman in the MIAC anymore. All the schools have gone the east coast / St Norbert's route of bringing in the 20+ year old jr hockey guys with receding hair lines.  They go the jr route in hopes of chasing D1 dreams and then land in the MIAC as 20 or 21 year old freshman, with little connection with other athletes on campus or the school itself.

MUC57 challenged the credibility of the lawyers posting and compared us to used car salesmen, and I'm not sure why. I recited the Florida statute on felony battery word-for-word. The other lawyer Frank Rossi (I believe), simply took a screen shot of the disposition of his case and posted it. Those things are facts.

My opinion is that Fulford should sit until felony is resolved and his warrants are taken care of.

Not sure what any of it has to do with our credibility.

Well, you did make a clever joke about Clarett AND apparently implied that Mount Union has no credibility for suggesting that maybe LK/VK's decisions could be criticized this one time (as several other Mount posters did also) and that hero worship of coaches guiding legendary programs could maybe be dangerous, but that's absurd because we've never ever seen examples of that happening in the rust belt.

You should probably go apologize for disrespecting the hollowed ground.

[miac952]

From what I understand, UMHB is currently looking for a non-conference game for the next couple of years. Coach Fredenburg has shown he will play anyone, anytime and anywhere. Who knows?

September non-conference game in TX might be a little hot for our bunch. Book JerryWorld and you've got yourself a deal.

[DuffMan]

Yeah, I've poked my head into the OAC board, too.  I'm not getting involved in any of that.  Remove the purple blinders and it's clear to anyone how the athlete in question should be dealt with.

Anyone recall when Trinity beat my SJU team in the semis in 2002?  That night, their QB, Roy Hampton, got arrested for public intoxication, and Trinity sat him for the Stagg Bowl!

[USTBench]

I concur on this UMHB group being a solid bunch. My game prediction is a close 20 - 14 type game. If UST's defense and special teams can give the offense a couple short fields they have a shot. If UMHB doesn't turn the ball over and holds strong in special teams they win.

What's with the Mount folks all up in arms with our Tommie bunch. When I poke my head over on the OAC board, they are fighting with each other more than anything else. It's entertaining to watch from afar. In related news Mo Clarett has some eligibility left. Waiting on word out of Alliance if the NCAA is ok with an ankle monitoring system being considered a part of the uniform. 

OldAuggie, I really want to get into MIAC hockey, but have always had a hard time. It's rare to find an 18-19 year old freshman in the MIAC anymore. All the schools have gone the east coast / St Norbert's route of bringing in the 20+ year old jr hockey guys with receding hair lines.  They go the jr route in hopes of chasing D1 dreams and then land in the MIAC as 20 or 21 year old freshman, with little connection with other athletes on campus or the school itself.

MUC57 challenged the credibility of the lawyers posting and compared us to used car salesmen, and I'm not sure why. I recited the Florida statute on felony battery word-for-word. The other lawyer Frank Rossi (I believe), simply took a screen shot of the disposition of his case and posted it. Those things are facts.

My opinion is that Fulford should sit until felony is resolved and his warrants are taken care of.

Not sure what any of it has to do with our credibility.

Well, you did make a clever joke about Clarett AND apparently implied that Mount Union has no credibility for suggesting that maybe LK/VK's decisions could be criticized this one time (as several other Mount posters did also) and that hero worship of coaches guiding legendary programs could maybe be dangerous, but that's absurd because we've never ever seen examples of that happening in the rust belt.

You should probably go apologize for disrespecting the hollowed ground.

All true, but still not indicative of my credibility.

[USTBench]

Yeah, I've poked my head into the OAC board, too.  I'm not getting involved in any of that.  Remove the purple blinders and it's clear to anyone how the athlete in question should be dealt with.

Anyone recall when Trinity beat my SJU team in the semis in 2002?  That night, their QB, Roy Hampton, got arrested for public intoxication, and Trinity sat him for the Stagg Bowl!

Nah, I was probably intoxicated because our season was over. Publicly!

But that's pretty amazing.

[miac952]

I concur on this UMHB group being a solid bunch. My game prediction is a close 20 - 14 type game. If UST's defense and special teams can give the offense a couple short fields they have a shot. If UMHB doesn't turn the ball over and holds strong in special teams they win.

What's with the Mount folks all up in arms with our Tommie bunch. When I poke my head over on the OAC board, they are fighting with each other more than anything else. It's entertaining to watch from afar. In related news Mo Clarett has some eligibility left. Waiting on word out of Alliance if the NCAA is ok with an ankle monitoring system being considered a part of the uniform. 

OldAuggie, I really want to get into MIAC hockey, but have always had a hard time. It's rare to find an 18-19 year old freshman in the MIAC anymore. All the schools have gone the east coast / St Norbert's route of bringing in the 20+ year old jr hockey guys with receding hair lines.  They go the jr route in hopes of chasing D1 dreams and then land in the MIAC as 20 or 21 year old freshman, with little connection with other athletes on campus or the school itself.

MUC57 challenged the credibility of the lawyers posting and compared us to used car salesmen, and I'm not sure why. I recited the Florida statute on felony battery word-for-word. The other lawyer Frank Rossi (I believe), simply took a screen shot of the disposition of his case and posted it. Those things are facts.

My opinion is that Fulford should sit until felony is resolved and his warrants are taken care of.

Not sure what any of it has to do with our credibility.

Well, you did make a clever joke about Clarett AND apparently implied that Mount Union has no credibility for suggesting that maybe LK/VK's decisions could be criticized this one time (as several other Mount posters did also) and that hero worship of coaches guiding legendary programs could maybe be dangerous, but that's absurd because we've never ever seen examples of that happening in the rust belt.

You should probably go apologize for disrespecting the hollowed ground.

Hey, hey. The Clarett idea isn't without precedence. Booker Stanley anyone?? On a local connection Dom Jones ended up at Otterbein after the unspeakable events with the Gophers.

Im actually warm to 2nd chances and rehabilitation noted above. I have grave concerns however with little consequence or punishment upfront. It can set the student on a bad path. In the few instances I have been aware I have been proud of how MIAC institutions have handled misdemeanor and the rare felony occurrences.

The Ryan Leaf E60 is a really fascinating tale about a lot of this. Small stuff without consequence turned to big stuff, then when the going got tough he resorted to some really poor decision making. He is now on the upward track helping others.

[jamtod]

Ryan Leaf's story is quite interesting. I'm with you on the second chances and need to address the situation upfront. I'm really surprised at the handling of all this and the Kehres track record is pretty strong. I'll allow the possibility that there are some details that we aren't aware of (and don't deserve to be due to juvenile), but the optics certainly don't look good

This whole situation has got me thinking about glass houses and all that. Have we seen players at UST in the Caruso era with legal trouble and how that was handled? Or the Fasching-era Johnnies?

[Toby Taff]

Where are the Johnnies when you need them?

Still here, there's just not much to say.  There's been very little chatter out of St. Glenn's apostles this week.  Have you all resigned to the Monkey Stomp^TM that awaits in Texas?

Not really. Pretty cavernous over on the ASC board. Tried starting some chatter with a really long post about UST's team and how they operate, no takers. So I migrated over to the OAC board which is pretty en fuego right now. Second most interesting topic of the year, outside of the Occidental football team versus the AD debacle.

Also, the UMHB posters are pretty nice dudes.

We used to have some folks that liked stirring the pot, especially when HSU was a really active rivalry. Most of us that post regularly there now try to be metered in our homer-liness. Loved you analysis, but haven't had a chance to respond. called in sick today so i'll try to respond and get some discussion going.

[USTBench]

Ryan Leaf's story is quite interesting. I'm with you on the second chances and need to address the situation upfront. I'm really surprised at the handling of all this and the Kehres track record is pretty strong. I'll allow the possibility that there are some details that we aren't aware of (and don't deserve to be due to juvenile), but the optics certainly don't look good

This whole situation has got me thinking about glass houses and all that. Have we seen players at UST in the Caruso era with legal trouble and how that was handled? Or the Fasching-era Johnnies?

Nope. But I'd like to think both guys would nip that in the bid really quick.