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miac952

UST's John Schneider (Seahawks GM, UST alum), Head Coach Pete Carroll, and SJU's Trent Kirchner (Seahawks Director of Player Personnel - aka salary cap/contract wiz) were the recipients of this kind gesture from their All-Pro safety when he left the field with an injury last night. It ties back to a contract dispute in the offseason.


nkwest

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 01, 2018, 11:43:05 AM
It's been a little while since we've had a beat-down like that though.

In fact, the closest thing resembling one in the Caruso era was probably the UW-W semifinal in 2011.

Tom Thumb

Here are a few highlights form the UST/Cobber game on Saturday: http://www.wday.com/sports/football/4506400-early-miscues-help-st-thomas-rout-concordia-46-7

I know the Cobbers would like to tell themselves they just dug themselves a hole with those three early turnovers, but after reviewing the clip above UST generated those turnovers. It wasn't like it was a bad quarterback-center exchange, a bad throw, or anything like that. Dowdle, Mitchell, and Danhauer made amazing plays.

I think it's time for CC to move on from the triple option. They have the athletes to play with anyone and they are a top 20 team. I think they've reached a point where the offense is holding them back. Especially when they are playing from behind against good teams.

jamtod

Quote from: Tom Thumb on October 01, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
Here are a few highlights form the UST/Cobber game on Saturday: http://www.wday.com/sports/football/4506400-early-miscues-help-st-thomas-rout-concordia-46-7

I know the Cobbers would like to tell themselves they just dug themselves a hole with those three early turnovers, but after reviewing the clip above UST generated those turnovers. It wasn't like it was a bad quarterback-center exchange, a bad throw, or anything like that. Dowdle, Mitchell, and Danhauer made amazing plays.

I think it's time for CC to move on from the triple option. They have the athletes to play with anyone and they are a top 20 team. I think they've reached a point where the offense is holding them back. Especially when they are playing from behind against good teams.

Is Horan an offensive guy? Is he attached to the option or is there somebody else on staff that's the option guru?

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: Tom Thumb on October 01, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
Here are a few highlights form the UST/Cobber game on Saturday: http://www.wday.com/sports/football/4506400-early-miscues-help-st-thomas-rout-concordia-46-7

I know the Cobbers would like to tell themselves they just dug themselves a hole with those three early turnovers, but after reviewing the clip above UST generated those turnovers. It wasn't like it was a bad quarterback-center exchange, a bad throw, or anything like that. Dowdle, Mitchell, and Danhauer made amazing plays.

I think it's time for CC to move on from the triple option. They have the athletes to play with anyone and they are a top 20 team. I think they've reached a point where the offense is holding them back. Especially when they are playing from behind against good teams.

I feel that way too, or at least move away from it as having it all the time.  If the players you have are best used in that scheme, then so be it, but it would seem like they're under-utilizing skills at times.

faunch

Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on October 01, 2018, 01:00:33 PM
Quote from: Tom Thumb on October 01, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
Here are a few highlights form the UST/Cobber game on Saturday: http://www.wday.com/sports/football/4506400-early-miscues-help-st-thomas-rout-concordia-46-7

I know the Cobbers would like to tell themselves they just dug themselves a hole with those three early turnovers, but after reviewing the clip above UST generated those turnovers. It wasn't like it was a bad quarterback-center exchange, a bad throw, or anything like that. Dowdle, Mitchell, and Danhauer made amazing plays.

I think it's time for CC to move on from the triple option. They have the athletes to play with anyone and they are a top 20 team. I think they've reached a point where the offense is holding them back. Especially when they are playing from behind against good teams.

I feel that way too, or at least move away from it as having it all the time.  If the players you have are best used in that scheme, then so be it, but it would seem like they're under-utilizing skills at times.
Ironically they have an alum that made the Vikings roster as a receiver. Just think how underutilized Zylstra was in college. His younger brother is averaging 78 receiving yards a game for Mankato.


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

Tom Thumb

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 01, 2018, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: Tom Thumb on October 01, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
Here are a few highlights form the UST/Cobber game on Saturday: http://www.wday.com/sports/football/4506400-early-miscues-help-st-thomas-rout-concordia-46-7

I know the Cobbers would like to tell themselves they just dug themselves a hole with those three early turnovers, but after reviewing the clip above UST generated those turnovers. It wasn't like it was a bad quarterback-center exchange, a bad throw, or anything like that. Dowdle, Mitchell, and Danhauer made amazing plays.

I think it's time for CC to move on from the triple option. They have the athletes to play with anyone and they are a top 20 team. I think they've reached a point where the offense is holding them back. Especially when they are playing from behind against good teams.

Is Horan an offensive guy? Is he attached to the option or is there somebody else on staff that's the option guru?

I'm not sure. That's a good question. I took a glance at their coaches and I saw they had two co-offensive coordinators and a "running coordinator."

Tom Thumb

Quote from: faunch on October 01, 2018, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on October 01, 2018, 01:00:33 PM
Quote from: Tom Thumb on October 01, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
Here are a few highlights form the UST/Cobber game on Saturday: http://www.wday.com/sports/football/4506400-early-miscues-help-st-thomas-rout-concordia-46-7

I know the Cobbers would like to tell themselves they just dug themselves a hole with those three early turnovers, but after reviewing the clip above UST generated those turnovers. It wasn't like it was a bad quarterback-center exchange, a bad throw, or anything like that. Dowdle, Mitchell, and Danhauer made amazing plays.

I think it's time for CC to move on from the triple option. They have the athletes to play with anyone and they are a top 20 team. I think they've reached a point where the offense is holding them back. Especially when they are playing from behind against good teams.

I feel that way too, or at least move away from it as having it all the time.  If the players you have are best used in that scheme, then so be it, but it would seem like they're under-utilizing skills at times.
Ironically they have an alum that made the Vikings roster as a receiver. Just think how underutilized Zylstra was in college. His younger brother is averaging 78 receiving yards a game for Mankato.

Exactly. And he had Griffin Neal as his QB.

faunch

Quote from: miac952 on October 01, 2018, 12:01:30 PM
UST's John Schneider (Seahawks GM, UST alum), Head Coach Pete Carroll, and SJU's Trent Kirchner (Seahawks Director of Player Personnel - aka salary cap/contract wiz) were the recipients of this kind gesture from their All-Pro safety when he left the field with an injury last night. It ties back to a contract dispute in the offseason.



I was probably intended for the U$T alum.  ;D


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

MIAC23

Quote from: faunch on October 01, 2018, 01:14:35 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on October 01, 2018, 01:00:33 PM
Quote from: Tom Thumb on October 01, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
Here are a few highlights form the UST/Cobber game on Saturday: http://www.wday.com/sports/football/4506400-early-miscues-help-st-thomas-rout-concordia-46-7

I know the Cobbers would like to tell themselves they just dug themselves a hole with those three early turnovers, but after reviewing the clip above UST generated those turnovers. It wasn't like it was a bad quarterback-center exchange, a bad throw, or anything like that. Dowdle, Mitchell, and Danhauer made amazing plays.

I think it's time for CC to move on from the triple option. They have the athletes to play with anyone and they are a top 20 team. I think they've reached a point where the offense is holding them back. Especially when they are playing from behind against good teams.

I feel that way too, or at least move away from it as having it all the time.  If the players you have are best used in that scheme, then so be it, but it would seem like they're under-utilizing skills at times.
Ironically they have an alum that made the Vikings roster as a receiver. Just think how underutilized Zylstra was in college. His younger brother is averaging 78 receiving yards a game for Mankato.

Yea, they could have broken quite a few passing and receiving records those couple years with Zylstra, Neal, and Jon Baune who was another standout wide receiver. To be fair, when they have had athletes out wide, the playbook usually is a bit more wide open.

MiacMan

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 01, 2018, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: Tom Thumb on October 01, 2018, 12:55:07 PM
Here are a few highlights form the UST/Cobber game on Saturday: http://www.wday.com/sports/football/4506400-early-miscues-help-st-thomas-rout-concordia-46-7

I know the Cobbers would like to tell themselves they just dug themselves a hole with those three early turnovers, but after reviewing the clip above UST generated those turnovers. It wasn't like it was a bad quarterback-center exchange, a bad throw, or anything like that. Dowdle, Mitchell, and Danhauer made amazing plays.

I think it's time for CC to move on from the triple option. They have the athletes to play with anyone and they are a top 20 team. I think they've reached a point where the offense is holding them back. Especially when they are playing from behind against good teams.

Is Horan an offensive guy? Is he attached to the option or is there somebody else on staff that's the option guru?

Answer is yes, Terry Horan is the guru of that offense. He used it at Breckenridge HS where he was extremely successful with it. It is their philosophy and I don't believe they will be scrapping it anytime in the near future.

DuffMan

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How about year that Jackson Erdmann is having?  He sits atop the D3 pass efficiency rankings at 225.3.  In all NCAA divisions, he ranks third behind Alabama's Tua Tagovailoa and Oklahoma's Kyler Murray.

58-78-1 for 915 yards and 13 TDs thus far.  I hope that he can stay healthy!

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

DuffMan

Was Concordia running the same offense prior to Horan?  He took over while I was at SJU, but I can't remember them running anything different.  It was always a headache to prepare for because 1) it was unlike anything you saw/would see in any other MIAC game, and 2) it's tough for a scout team to emulate how well the Cobbs run it.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

miac952

Concordia's point production in the last 7 games against UST & SJU has been 67.

If you include their two Whitewater games in that mix it's 98 points in 9 games.

Regardless of how you look at it, it's hard to win football games against top level teams while averaging 9.5 - 10.5 points per game. Their record against those three has been 1-8. It generally hasn't been the defense that's the problem.

They have the guys to change the system. Maybe they would draw a few more if they considered shifting too. Dabble the wishbone / veer into short yardage and goal line mixes.

MiacMan

Quote from: DuffMan on October 01, 2018, 02:43:39 PM
Was Concordia running the same offense prior to Horan?  He took over while I was at SJU, but I can't remember them running anything different.  It was always a headache to prepare for because 1) it was unlike anything you saw/would see in any other MIAC game, and 2) it's tough for a scout team to emulate how well the Cobbs run it.

Prior to Horan, Jim Christopherson ran mainly out of "Pro" sets I-Pro and Split-Backs in most cases (and still is) they always felt like they could just line-up and run the ball down your throat. It was much more conducive to throwing though than the Wing-T stuff they run today.