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Quote from: sjusection105 on November 13, 2018, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 13, 2018, 07:01:28 AM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on November 12, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
Erdmann again named the most offensive player in the MIAC this week.

https://gojohnnies.com/news/2018/11/12/football-sjus-erdmann-earns-third-miac-weekly-honor-of-2018.aspx

I was VERY offended by him
Looking at the photo in the game story, his knee pads were out of place on this play,he should have had to leave the game until the equipment malfunction was corrected. ;)

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miac952

Quote from: SJUrube on November 12, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
There was a coaching decision in the Bethel vs UST game that could have swung things the way of the Tommies that I haven't seen much about and is something that has gotten a lot of attention in higher levels of football. When UST scored to go down 21-13 with only minutes remaining in the game they went for, and succeeded, in getting the 2 point conversion to make it 21-15.

Had they been able to get the ball back, a TD and XP would have given them the lead/win at 22-21. Had they not gotten the two point they would have had to go for 2 again to tie it at 21.

The thinking in going for 2 early on is your success rate is slightly better than 50% when going for 2. Assuming you'll get a successful conversion at least once, if you're able to get it after the 1st TD you're in great position to win the game with a TD and XP after the 2nd.

Interesting scenario. I bet part of the line of thinking was also that "we are on the road and not the better team on the football field right now", so if there is a possible opportunity to win this in regulation, lets jump at it. What is unique about this, as you brought it up, is that it was done on the score before the opportunity to tie it up. Buffalo Bill (Dana Holgorsen) did it against Texas two weeks ago to win, but that was on last possession.

USTBench

Quote from: SJUrube on November 12, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
There was a coaching decision in the Bethel vs UST game that could have swung things the way of the Tommies that I haven't seen much about and is something that has gotten a lot of attention in higher levels of football. When UST scored to go down 21-13 with only minutes remaining in the game they went for, and succeeded, in getting the 2 point conversion to make it 21-15.

Had they been able to get the ball back, a TD and XP would have given them the lead/win at 22-21. Had they not gotten the two point they would have had to go for 2 again to tie it at 21.

The thinking in going for 2 early on is your success rate is slightly better than 50% when going for 2. Assuming you'll get a successful conversion at least once, if you're able to get it after the 1st TD you're in great position to win the game with a TD and XP after the 2nd.

Saw a Real Sports episode where that math wiz that plays center for the Ravens said in that scenario you should go for two if your conversion rate is a mere 38%
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miac952

So, based on what I am hearing, the Karnas crew is the equivalent of Teddy Valentine doing a B1G basketball game. "I'm going to make sure everyone knows who the most important person here is." After all, everyone paid to see me officiate, not watch the kids play.

MiacMan

Quote from: miac952 on November 13, 2018, 09:52:49 AM
So, based on what I am hearing, the Karnas crew is the equivalent of Teddy Valentine doing a B1G basketball game. "I'm going to make sure everyone knows who the most important person here is." After all, everyone paid to see me officiate, not watch the kids play.

Absolutely, 100% correct! They feed off each other! And Brian Mauer fits right in on this crew! (Cousin of Joe Mauer's Dad, Jake)

USTBench

Quote from: miac952 on November 13, 2018, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: SJUrube on November 12, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
There was a coaching decision in the Bethel vs UST game that could have swung things the way of the Tommies that I haven't seen much about and is something that has gotten a lot of attention in higher levels of football. When UST scored to go down 21-13 with only minutes remaining in the game they went for, and succeeded, in getting the 2 point conversion to make it 21-15.

Had they been able to get the ball back, a TD and XP would have given them the lead/win at 22-21. Had they not gotten the two point they would have had to go for 2 again to tie it at 21.

The thinking in going for 2 early on is your success rate is slightly better than 50% when going for 2. Assuming you'll get a successful conversion at least once, if you're able to get it after the 1st TD you're in great position to win the game with a TD and XP after the 2nd.

Interesting scenario. I bet part of the line of thinking was also that "we are on the road and not the better team on the football field right now", so if there is a possible opportunity to win this in regulation, lets jump at it. What is unique about this, as you brought it up, is that it was done on the score before the opportunity to tie it up. Buffalo Bill (Dana Holgorsen) did it against Texas two weeks ago to win, but that was on last possession.

The odd thing was, UST did everything right in that situation up until the onside kick, which was actually perfect. The Bethel player made a great play to go up and get the ball at the high point, but where the hell were the Tommie players? It's as if they were nowhere around the football. Bizarre.
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jamtod

Quote from: miac952 on November 13, 2018, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: SJUrube on November 12, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
There was a coaching decision in the Bethel vs UST game that could have swung things the way of the Tommies that I haven't seen much about and is something that has gotten a lot of attention in higher levels of football. When UST scored to go down 21-13 with only minutes remaining in the game they went for, and succeeded, in getting the 2 point conversion to make it 21-15.

Had they been able to get the ball back, a TD and XP would have given them the lead/win at 22-21. Had they not gotten the two point they would have had to go for 2 again to tie it at 21.

The thinking in going for 2 early on is your success rate is slightly better than 50% when going for 2. Assuming you'll get a successful conversion at least once, if you're able to get it after the 1st TD you're in great position to win the game with a TD and XP after the 2nd.

Interesting scenario. I bet part of the line of thinking was also that "we are on the road and not the better team on the football field right now", so if there is a possible opportunity to win this in regulation, lets jump at it. What is unique about this, as you brought it up, is that it was done on the score before the opportunity to tie it up. Buffalo Bill (Dana Holgorsen) did it against Texas two weeks ago to win, but that was on last possession.

When we scored there, I turned to my buddy and told him we would go for 2. He doubted it.
It makes a ton of sense in that situation. You know where you stand and know if you need to go for 2 on the next TD (if you score, womp womp) if you miss it OR have a chance to take the lead on the next one.

DuffMan

Quote from: SaintsFAN on November 13, 2018, 09:24:47 AM
I was on the sideline.  There was lots of talking between the TMU WR's and a SJU DB.

I'm guessing it was #9, Chris Harris.  He seems to like jaw-jacking.

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Quote from: USTBench on November 13, 2018, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: miac952 on November 13, 2018, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: SJUrube on November 12, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
There was a coaching decision in the Bethel vs UST game that could have swung things the way of the Tommies that I haven't seen much about and is something that has gotten a lot of attention in higher levels of football. When UST scored to go down 21-13 with only minutes remaining in the game they went for, and succeeded, in getting the 2 point conversion to make it 21-15.

Had they been able to get the ball back, a TD and XP would have given them the lead/win at 22-21. Had they not gotten the two point they would have had to go for 2 again to tie it at 21.

The thinking in going for 2 early on is your success rate is slightly better than 50% when going for 2. Assuming you'll get a successful conversion at least once, if you're able to get it after the 1st TD you're in great position to win the game with a TD and XP after the 2nd.

Interesting scenario. I bet part of the line of thinking was also that "we are on the road and not the better team on the football field right now", so if there is a possible opportunity to win this in regulation, lets jump at it. What is unique about this, as you brought it up, is that it was done on the score before the opportunity to tie it up. Buffalo Bill (Dana Holgorsen) did it against Texas two weeks ago to win, but that was on last possession.

The odd thing was, UST did everything right in that situation up until the onside kick, which was actually perfect. The Bethel player made a great play to go up and get the ball at the high point, but where the hell were the Tommie players? It's as if they were nowhere around the football. Bizarre.

Very true - it was an excellent kick - see the 3:38 mark of the video: nobody from UST appears to be pursuing the ball?

https://kstp.com/sports/bethel-beats-st-thomas-to-likely-earn-diii-playoff-appearance/5140497/?cat=81

The other thing that I didn't notice live was on the UST interception in the endzone at the 1:40 mark - had the UST player not stepped in front of the pass, I think there was a PI penalty about to occur, with the UST player draped on the back of the intended BU receiver, so the INT was clutch.

faunch

VOJ interviewed Gary during last night's SJU basketball home opener. Gary shared that Brinker would likely not practice until Thursday and would likely be questionable for Saturday. He didn't say as much but it appears the thought process last week and this week are that we can win without him right now and let's try to get him healthy for when he's really needed. The good thing is that it gets a young beast like Wozniak and others a few reps if we need them to play in the playoffs.


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MiacMan

Quote from: USTBench on November 13, 2018, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: miac952 on November 13, 2018, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: SJUrube on November 12, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
There was a coaching decision in the Bethel vs UST game that could have swung things the way of the Tommies that I haven't seen much about and is something that has gotten a lot of attention in higher levels of football. When UST scored to go down 21-13 with only minutes remaining in the game they went for, and succeeded, in getting the 2 point conversion to make it 21-15.

Had they been able to get the ball back, a TD and XP would have given them the lead/win at 22-21. Had they not gotten the two point they would have had to go for 2 again to tie it at 21.

The thinking in going for 2 early on is your success rate is slightly better than 50% when going for 2. Assuming you'll get a successful conversion at least once, if you're able to get it after the 1st TD you're in great position to win the game with a TD and XP after the 2nd.

Interesting scenario. I bet part of the line of thinking was also that "we are on the road and not the better team on the football field right now", so if there is a possible opportunity to win this in regulation, lets jump at it. What is unique about this, as you brought it up, is that it was done on the score before the opportunity to tie it up. Buffalo Bill (Dana Holgorsen) did it against Texas two weeks ago to win, but that was on last possession.

The odd thing was, UST did everything right in that situation up until the onside kick, which was actually perfect. The Bethel player made a great play to go up and get the ball at the high point, but where the hell were the Tommie players? It's as if they were nowhere around the football. Bizarre.

I said the exact same thing to my son sitting next to me. The kick was perfect, I saw several Tommies hitting/blocking out BU players which is good but absolutely nobody going for the ball, which was there for the taking! Apparently, they haven't practiced that play very much?

DuffMan

Quote from: faunch on November 13, 2018, 10:57:11 AM
Gary shared that Brinker would likely not practice until Thursday and would likely be questionable for Saturday.

I see absolutely no reason to play Brinker this week.  He's taken a beating, and we'll need him healthier than he currently is.

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jamtod

Quote from: MiacMan on November 13, 2018, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: USTBench on November 13, 2018, 10:14:34 AM
Quote from: miac952 on November 13, 2018, 09:28:05 AM
Quote from: SJUrube on November 12, 2018, 11:57:34 PM
There was a coaching decision in the Bethel vs UST game that could have swung things the way of the Tommies that I haven't seen much about and is something that has gotten a lot of attention in higher levels of football. When UST scored to go down 21-13 with only minutes remaining in the game they went for, and succeeded, in getting the 2 point conversion to make it 21-15.

Had they been able to get the ball back, a TD and XP would have given them the lead/win at 22-21. Had they not gotten the two point they would have had to go for 2 again to tie it at 21.

The thinking in going for 2 early on is your success rate is slightly better than 50% when going for 2. Assuming you'll get a successful conversion at least once, if you're able to get it after the 1st TD you're in great position to win the game with a TD and XP after the 2nd.

Interesting scenario. I bet part of the line of thinking was also that "we are on the road and not the better team on the football field right now", so if there is a possible opportunity to win this in regulation, lets jump at it. What is unique about this, as you brought it up, is that it was done on the score before the opportunity to tie it up. Buffalo Bill (Dana Holgorsen) did it against Texas two weeks ago to win, but that was on last possession.

The odd thing was, UST did everything right in that situation up until the onside kick, which was actually perfect. The Bethel player made a great play to go up and get the ball at the high point, but where the hell were the Tommie players? It's as if they were nowhere around the football. Bizarre.

I said the exact same thing to my son sitting next to me. The kick was perfect, I saw several Tommies hitting/blocking out BU players which is good but absolutely nobody going for the ball, which was there for the taking! Apparently, they haven't practiced that play very much?

Sounds to me like we need to be trying the onside kick next year against UW-EC (again, despite their fans complaints) and Carleton in the 2nd quarter while up by 30 pts.

DuffMan

It really is a bummer that no MLC fans have discovered D3BOARDS.com Post Patterns.  Heck, there isn't even any dialogue from any Wartie fans!  It makes me wish that Linfield would have made the cut.  They're entertaining.

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jamtod

Quote from: DuffMan on November 13, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
It really is a bummer that no MLC fans have discovered D3BOARDS.com Post Patterns.  Heck, there isn't even any dialogue from any Wartie fans!  It makes me wish that Linfield would have made the cut.  They're entertaining.

You can always troll Logan Hansen on Twitter. But he doesn't post on here very much now that he has a legion of fans to post his updated ratings various places.