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Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 13, 2018, 10:37:20 AM

The other thing that I didn't notice live was on the UST interception in the endzone at the 1:40 mark - had the UST player not stepped in front of the pass, I think there was a PI penalty about to occur, with the UST player draped on the back of the intended BU receiver, so the INT was clutch.

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the INT doesn't negate PI. But I also am not sure what you mean by a PI penalty 'about' to occur. If it should have been PI without the INT, it should also have been PI with the INT. With that being said, I didn't think there would have been PI regardless, looked like good coverage to me.

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Quote from: jamtoTommie on November 13, 2018, 11:36:52 AM
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Quote from: DuffMan on November 13, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
It really is a bummer that no MLC fans have discovered D3BOARDS.com Post Patterns.  Heck, there isn't even any dialogue from any Wartie fans!  It makes me wish that Linfield would have made the cut.  They're entertaining.

Maybe we should have a "mock playoff" game between UST and Linfield. Tell me this wouldn't be entertaining? We could even throw UWO in the mix. Who would win a first round game between these three couch potatoes? JK, let's deal with reality.  :-[ Go MIAC!

DuffMan

Surprised that there has been no mention of the last regional rankings:

West Region
1 UW-Whitewater 9-0 (SOS = .573)
2 St. John's 10-0 (SOS = .553)
3 Whitworth 9-0 (SOS = .526)
4 Bethel 9-1 (SOS = .544)
5 Linfield 7-1 (SOS = .565)
6 UW-La Crosse 7-2 (SOS = .547)
7 St. Thomas 7-2 (SOS = .535)
8 St. Norbert 9-1 (SOS = .468)
9 Monmouth (Ill.) 8-2 (SOS = .518)
10 Wartburg 8-2 (SOS = .515)

Thomas More dropped out of the South Region rankings.

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Quote from: RoyalsFan on November 13, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 13, 2018, 10:37:20 AM

The other thing that I didn't notice live was on the UST interception in the endzone at the 1:40 mark - had the UST player not stepped in front of the pass, I think there was a PI penalty about to occur, with the UST player draped on the back of the intended BU receiver, so the INT was clutch.

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the INT doesn't negate PI. But I also am not sure what you mean by a PI penalty 'about' to occur. If it should have been PI without the INT, it should also have been PI with the INT. With that being said, I didn't think there would have been PI regardless, looked like good coverage to me.

No, it's the opposite. The PI would negate the Int.

MiacMan

Quote from: DuffMan on November 13, 2018, 12:16:19 PM
Surprised that there has been no mention of the last regional rankings:

West Region
1 UW-Whitewater 9-0 (SOS = .573)
2 St. John's 10-0 (SOS = .553)
3 Whitworth 9-0 (SOS = .526)
4 Bethel 9-1 (SOS = .544)
5 Linfield 7-1 (SOS = .565)
6 UW-La Crosse 7-2 (SOS = .547)
7 St. Thomas 7-2 (SOS = .535)
8 St. Norbert 9-1 (SOS = .468)
9 Monmouth (Ill.) 8-2 (SOS = .518)
10 Wartburg 8-2 (SOS = .515)

Thomas More dropped out of the South Region rankings.

Hence, why they were able to keep UWW ahead of the Jays.

jamtod

Quote from: MiacMan on November 13, 2018, 12:13:35 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 13, 2018, 11:34:00 AM
It really is a bummer that no MLC fans have discovered D3BOARDS.com Post Patterns.  Heck, there isn't even any dialogue from any Wartie fans!  It makes me wish that Linfield would have made the cut.  They're entertaining.

Maybe we should have a "mock playoff" game between UST and Linfield. Tell me this wouldn't be entertaining? We could even throw UWO in the mix. Who would win a first round game between these three couch potatoes? JK, let's deal with reality.  :-[ Go MIAC!

Why bother with Oshkosh. UW-LaCrosse should get in ahead of them for a hypothetical matchup.

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: MiacMan on November 13, 2018, 12:18:02 PM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on November 13, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 13, 2018, 10:37:20 AM

The other thing that I didn't notice live was on the UST interception in the endzone at the 1:40 mark - had the UST player not stepped in front of the pass, I think there was a PI penalty about to occur, with the UST player draped on the back of the intended BU receiver, so the INT was clutch.

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the INT doesn't negate PI. But I also am not sure what you mean by a PI penalty 'about' to occur. If it should have been PI without the INT, it should also have been PI with the INT. With that being said, I didn't think there would have been PI regardless, looked like good coverage to me.

No, it's the opposite. The PI would negate the Int.

Shows what I know!

I guess I was under the impression that given that the ball never had a chance to make it to the intended receiver - as it was picked about 4-5 yards in front of him, that the UST guy riding his back wouldn't have mattered regardless.

jamtod

Quote from: MiacMan on November 13, 2018, 12:18:02 PM
Quote from: RoyalsFan on November 13, 2018, 12:02:19 PM
Quote from: GoldandBlueBU on November 13, 2018, 10:37:20 AM

The other thing that I didn't notice live was on the UST interception in the endzone at the 1:40 mark - had the UST player not stepped in front of the pass, I think there was a PI penalty about to occur, with the UST player draped on the back of the intended BU receiver, so the INT was clutch.

I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure the INT doesn't negate PI. But I also am not sure what you mean by a PI penalty 'about' to occur. If it should have been PI without the INT, it should also have been PI with the INT. With that being said, I didn't think there would have been PI regardless, looked like good coverage to me.

No, it's the opposite. The PI would negate the Int.

How about a hypothetical block in the back which occurs as Roste is just about to cross the goal line? Maybe #5 Fondakowski just got tripped up, and I don't think he was actually going to get Roste, but it looked like he got shoved from behind right at the end of that play. Worst case scenario, a hypothetical penalty would have ended up with the ball inside the red zone anyway (spot foul? Not sure about yardage).

Also, while we are re-litigating (I've got no game on Saturday to look forward to so might as well revisit the past - queue up the Eureka laughtrack here), I don't think the non-targeting call was so clearly a clean hit as one of the Bethel guys made it out to be. I haven't seen the replays, but I'm certain I could hear the helmet contact on that hit.

art76

Speaking of hypothetical flags, I started to get out of my chair after Kilgore blocked the quick-kick because the O lineman that had been blocking him was practically tackling him after the blocked kick so he could not get to the ball. But BU covered the ball in the end zone and all was well in the world.
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Quote from: MiacMan on November 13, 2018, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on November 13, 2018, 12:16:19 PM
Surprised that there has been no mention of the last regional rankings:

West Region
1 UW-Whitewater 9-0 (SOS = .573)
2 St. John's 10-0 (SOS = .553)
3 Whitworth 9-0 (SOS = .526)
4 Bethel 9-1 (SOS = .544)
5 Linfield 7-1 (SOS = .565)
6 UW-La Crosse 7-2 (SOS = .547)
7 St. Thomas 7-2 (SOS = .535)
8 St. Norbert 9-1 (SOS = .468)
9 Monmouth (Ill.) 8-2 (SOS = .518)
10 Wartburg 8-2 (SOS = .515)

Thomas More dropped out of the South Region rankings.

Hence, why they were able to keep UWW ahead of the Jays.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't there some UWW fans annoyed earlier this year that their "game" against Middle Georgia wasn't included in their record? Would that have dragged their SOS down?
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Quote from: art76 on November 13, 2018, 12:35:52 PM
Speaking of hypothetical flags, I started to get out of my chair after Kilgore blocked the quick-kick because the O lineman that had been blocking him was practically tackling him after the blocked kick so he could not get to the ball. But BU covered the ball in the end zone and all was well in the world.

100% saw the same thing. It was the QB Perra. He was hugging Kilgore. Totally blatant and I would have run out there and pulled the ref's flag myself if it didn't already go for a TD. Those quick kicks were ugly and I hope we reconsider how we were approaching it. The block seemed inevitable.

GoldandBlueBU

Quote from: jamtoTommie on November 13, 2018, 12:28:45 PM

How about a hypothetical block in the back which occurs as Roste is just about to cross the goal line? Maybe #5 Fondakowski just got tripped up, and I don't think he was actually going to get Roste, but it looked like he got shoved from behind right at the end of that play. Worst case scenario, a hypothetical penalty would have ended up with the ball inside the red zone anyway (spot foul? Not sure about yardage).

Also, while we are re-litigating (I've got no game on Saturday to look forward to so might as well revisit the past - queue up the Eureka laughtrack here), I don't think the non-targeting call was so clearly a clean hit as one of the Bethel guys made it out to be. I haven't seen the replays, but I'm certain I could hear the helmet contact on that hit.

I for sure thought that was a block in the back - guessing he just got excited, because it served no purpose.  A - he wasn't going to catch him.  B - even if he did, it was going to be inside the 5, at which point, given his size, you're not going to pull him down before the endzone.  Lucky he didn't get called...being in the red-zone was no guarantee of points on saturday.

I wish the BU had the game on-demand online.  I certanily couldn't see it well enough real-time to say whether it was to the helmet or not.  Felt like one of those 50/50 calls that had it been a game @ UST, right next to the UST bench, would have been a penalty / ejection, but since it was @BU, next to the BU bench, they picked up the flag.

MiacMan

Quote from: jamtoTommie on November 13, 2018, 12:38:11 PM
Quote from: art76 on November 13, 2018, 12:35:52 PM
Speaking of hypothetical flags, I started to get out of my chair after Kilgore blocked the quick-kick because the O lineman that had been blocking him was practically tackling him after the blocked kick so he could not get to the ball. But BU covered the ball in the end zone and all was well in the world.

100% saw the same thing. It was the QB Perra. He was hugging Kilgore. Totally blatant and I would have run out there and pulled the ref's flag myself if it didn't already go for a TD. Those quick kicks were ugly and I hope we reconsider how we were approaching it. The block seemed inevitable.

Agree, I remember thinking to myself after the previous QK, it's only a matter of time....

jamtod

Quote from: MiacMan on November 13, 2018, 12:56:06 PM
Quote from: jamtoTommie on November 13, 2018, 12:38:11 PM
Quote from: art76 on November 13, 2018, 12:35:52 PM
Speaking of hypothetical flags, I started to get out of my chair after Kilgore blocked the quick-kick because the O lineman that had been blocking him was practically tackling him after the blocked kick so he could not get to the ball. But BU covered the ball in the end zone and all was well in the world.

100% saw the same thing. It was the QB Perra. He was hugging Kilgore. Totally blatant and I would have run out there and pulled the ref's flag myself if it didn't already go for a TD. Those quick kicks were ugly and I hope we reconsider how we were approaching it. The block seemed inevitable.

Agree, I remember thinking to myself after the previous QK, it's only a matter of time....
I didn't even notice Perra taking the customary steps backward before the snap. Seemed like he was kicking it much closer in than in the past.