FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[jamtod]

So looking at this order, the idea of annually finishing somewhere between 2nd and 4th in football as part of the WIAC didn't appeal to the Tommies. Somehow their quick run towards D-I makes the whole dis-affiliation thing from the MIAC seem... well...orchestrated.

If I get bored later this morning, I may take a spin through the various St Thomas, Oshkosh and Whitewater schedules and playoff finishing for the last 10 years to see where we would have fallen in that world. Generally 2 through 4 seems about right, with a couple years (2012/2015) that we could have bounced to the top.

For those suggesting that St Thomas' "involuntary removal" from the MIAC was "orchestrated" by us, could you walk me through how this conspiracy theory works so I can understand? I'm having a hard time seeing this as more than "she was asking for it, wearing that short skirt." Nobody should be surprised that we were prepared to move quickly, as it's well known that UST has considered what it would take to move up in the past. Not sure how that equates to "we orchestrated it" though

[GoldandBlueBU]

I think SJU was fortunate to catch BU early in the season last year.  I still think SJU would have prevailed later in the year, but they controlled most of that game as BU was still settling in.

Yeah, SJU was able to be pretty conservative, because, as you noted, it wasn't really ever in question as BU was struggling to get much going offensively.

While BU was certainly much improved by the end of the year, SJU was also a significantly better team...the team that played in Arden Hills that day would not have come within a breath of knocking off UMHB as they did at the end of the year.  Erdmann and the rest of the SJU offense really hit their stride as the season wore on.

Went to the website, and it looks like I can watch for $10.  Might have to make my monetary contribution to SJU athletics.

[jamtod]

So looking at this order, the idea of annually finishing somewhere between 2nd and 4th in football as part of the WIAC didn't appeal to the Tommies. Somehow their quick run towards D-I makes the whole dis-affiliation thing from the MIAC seem... well...orchestrated.

If I get bored later this morning, I may take a spin through the various St Thomas, Oshkosh and Whitewater schedules and playoff finishing for the last 10 years to see where we would have fallen in that world. Generally 2 through 4 seems about right, with a couple years (2012/2015) that we could have bounced to the top.

For those suggesting that St Thomas' "involuntary removal" from the MIAC was "orchestrated" by us, could you walk me through how this conspiracy theory works so I can understand? I'm having a hard time seeing this as more than "she was asking for it, wearing that short skirt."

Nobody should be surprised that we were prepared to move quickly, as it's well known that UST has considered what it would take to move up in the past. Not sure how that equates to "we orchestrated it" though

[GoldandBlueBU]

So looking at this order, the idea of annually finishing somewhere between 2nd and 4th in football as part of the WIAC didn't appeal to the Tommies. Somehow their quick run towards D-I makes the whole dis-affiliation thing from the MIAC seem... well...orchestrated.

If I get bored later this morning, I may take a spin through the various St Thomas, Oshkosh and Whitewater schedules and playoff finishing for the last 10 years to see where we would have fallen in that world. Generally 2 through 4 seems about right, with a couple years (2012/2015) that we could have bounced to the top.

For those suggesting that St Thomas' "involuntary removal" from the MIAC was "orchestrated" by us, could you walk me through how this conspiracy theory works so I can understand? I'm having a hard time seeing this as more than "she was asking for it, wearing that short skirt." Nobody should be surprised that we were prepared to move quickly, as it's well known that UST has considered what it would take to move up in the past. Not sure how that equates to "we orchestrated it" though

I also am not in the "orchestrated it" camp.  Planning to do it in the relatively near future anyway?  Sure!  Annoyed that they have to scramble now, but thrilled that they involuntary removal might allow them to skip the D2 step?  Absolutely!  But I don't at all think that they were being the evil puppet-master behind the whole thing, and trying to misbehave enough to get kicked out.

[jamtod]

So looking at this order, the idea of annually finishing somewhere between 2nd and 4th in football as part of the WIAC didn't appeal to the Tommies. Somehow their quick run towards D-I makes the whole dis-affiliation thing from the MIAC seem... well...orchestrated.

If I get bored later this morning, I may take a spin through the various St Thomas, Oshkosh and Whitewater schedules and playoff finishing for the last 10 years to see where we would have fallen in that world. Generally 2 through 4 seems about right, with a couple years (2012/2015) that we could have bounced to the top.

For those suggesting that St Thomas' "involuntary removal" from the MIAC was "orchestrated" by us, could you walk me through how this conspiracy theory works so I can understand? I'm having a hard time seeing this as more than "she was asking for it, wearing that short skirt." Nobody should be surprised that we were prepared to move quickly, as it's well known that UST has considered what it would take to move up in the past. Not sure how that equates to "we orchestrated it" though

I also am not in the "orchestrated it" camp.  Planning to do it in the relatively near future anyway?  Sure!  Annoyed that they have to scramble now, but thrilled that they involuntary removal might allow them to skip the D2 step?  Absolutely!  But I don't at all think that they were being the evil puppet-master behind the whole thing, and trying to misbehave enough to get kicked out.

I'll even accept that once the writing was on the wall, we accepted the fate rather than forcing a by-law change to come to a vote, in exchange for having some control over how this was communicated to the public.

If we orchestrated it, does that mean St Olaf didn't actually want to leave? The MIAC Presidents didn't actually unanimously (from what it sounds like) support kicking us out to keep the league from falling apart?

[MiacMan]

...and it seems that someone pulled back a post. I don't recall who it was, but basically they were saying that the Bethel/Johnnies game was not going to be close, but rather a Monkey stomp.

I don't recall seeing that.  Maybe you should lay off the cannabis gummies. 

Could've missed it, but I didn't see that either.

I'm hoping that BU can hang in there and keep it interesting, and do suspect that the conditions will help a bit, but were I a betting man, it would be difficult to wager against a stud senior QB playing a home game.

I do like our chances better this year than last year, with Roste having a season under his belt now, even though the defense isn't quite what it was last year, though they are solid. 

Remind me, if I decide that I want to watch, can I purchase a single game pass, or do I have to subscribe to the entire season?

Art,

I saw the post it was OZ. He didn't pick a team just thought one was going to have a good day and the other a bad day.

[DuffMan]

I just leafed back through the previous posts back to my weekly accounts for this week's games and it seems that someone pulled back a post. I don't recall who it was, but basically they were saying that the Bethel/Johnnies game was not going to be close, but rather a Monkey stomp. I sure hope not. I wouldn't want the Johnnies to fall below the Tommies in the Top 25. 

OK, you must be thinking of this post:

I think pressure on Erdmann is the best way to put the Jays off.  He has too many receiving options to let him have time.  The best thing is to have a couple rushing animals so you don't need to blitz every down.  If you need to blitz to generate pressure then you also need to make yourself vulnerable to the long ball.  If you don't play tight in that situation then you'll get short passed all day.

I wonder how effective BU will be at running.  We are a bit vulnerable to the long ball.  If we need to crowd the line to stop the running then the backfield will open up a lot more than I like.

It's gonna be a heck of a game.  I've got a feeling that it won't be close.  We'll see a monkeystomp in one direction or the other and two groups of fans on extreme opposite emotions.  But no moral victories in this game I'm predicting.  Him's nervous.

[art76]

I just leafed back through the previous posts back to my weekly accounts for this week's games and it seems that someone pulled back a post. I don't recall who it was, but basically they were saying that the Bethel/Johnnies game was not going to be close, but rather a Monkey stomp. I sure hope not. I wouldn't want the Johnnies to fall below the Tommies in the Top 25. 

OK, you must be thinking of this post:

I think pressure on Erdmann is the best way to put the Jays off.  He has too many receiving options to let him have time.  The best thing is to have a couple rushing animals so you don't need to blitz every down.  If you need to blitz to generate pressure then you also need to make yourself vulnerable to the long ball.  If you don't play tight in that situation then you'll get short passed all day.

I wonder how effective BU will be at running.  We are a bit vulnerable to the long ball.  If we need to crowd the line to stop the running then the backfield will open up a lot more than I like.

It's gonna be a heck of a game.  I've got a feeling that it won't be close.  We'll see a monkeystomp in one direction or the other and two groups of fans on extreme opposite emotions.  But no moral victories in this game I'm predicting.  Him's nervous.

Yep, that's it. Whew, a long way to go to make a joke at the end of my last post.

Thanx, Duff!

[BDB]

As someone who has ridden horses and showed cattle in the State Fair Coliseum, let me say it is getting a little dated even for those types of events when compared to other venues that host big time livestock and equine events.

I'm not positive, but I think this may be the first time the MIACPP has ventured into the livestock/equine arena, so to speak.

Not true, Tommie Johnnie week is coming up. I will let you fill in the rest.

Yes, I see now. I should send Rev a bill for teeing this one up so high for him.

[MiacMan]

Royals/Johnnies: I believe this will be a classic! While both teams lost major impact players on defense (SJU=Brinker/Jackson, BU=Dawson/Kilgore) both return a plethora of talent. I haven't seen either team play this year, so mainly going by scores and what I know from last years teams, this is going to be a war. Both were playing very well at the end of last year and have continued to impress so far this year. Considering all of the posts on this game re: strengths/weaknesses, run/pass, I'm not going to rehash what everyone already knows to be true. This game looks so even anyway you look at it. I hate to say it but I in this case I do believe the weather is going to be a factor. If it's clear with snow already on the ground, favors the Johnnies. However, it's snowing heavily "during, most or over half the game" I like the Royals. Regardless of the weather, I see this as a one score game difference. I see the Johnnies needing a final drive score and the Royals needing a stop.

[jamtod]

If you are looking for a good laugh or a dose of schadenfreude, I highly recommend reading the comments on some of the MLS sites about the upcoming Tommie Johnnie game, the day before the United host a playoff game and just a couple weeks after a full sod replacement:

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/10/03/minnesota-uniteds-allianz-field-gets-new-playing-surface-ahead-playoffs

Inject the angst right into my veins folks.

This is my favorite:

Yeah they should scrap the football game. No one cares about d3 football anyways

[miac952]

If you are looking for a good laugh or a dose of schadenfreude, I highly recommend reading the comments on some of the MLS sites about the upcoming Tommie Johnnie game, the day before the United host a playoff game and just a couple weeks after a full sod replacement:

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/10/03/minnesota-uniteds-allianz-field-gets-new-playing-surface-ahead-playoffs

Inject the angst right into my veins folks.

This is my favorite:

Yeah they should scrap the football game. No one cares about d3 football anyways

I get that it is a playoff game on their home field, but I do have to chuckle a bit that Tommie Johnnie is garnering equal pricing to their first home playoff game on the secondary ticket markets. Both are hovering around $60-$90 for the cheap seats and $150 - $250 for the expensive ones.

[jamtod]

If you are looking for a good laugh or a dose of schadenfreude, I highly recommend reading the comments on some of the MLS sites about the upcoming Tommie Johnnie game, the day before the United host a playoff game and just a couple weeks after a full sod replacement:

https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/10/03/minnesota-uniteds-allianz-field-gets-new-playing-surface-ahead-playoffs

Inject the angst right into my veins folks.

This is my favorite:

Yeah they should scrap the football game. No one cares about d3 football anyways

I get that it is a playoff game on their home field, but I do have to chuckle a bit that Tommie Johnnie is garnering equal pricing to their first home playoff game on the secondary ticket markets. Both are hovering around $60-$90 for the cheap seats and $150 - $250 for the expensive ones.

I didn't think the MLS playoff game tickets were available yet? I tried to find it to bolster my case, considering our game had plenty of interest and has been sold out for a while.

I do understand that it is frustrating, but I lack sympathy for various reasons.

[Texas Ole]

Wait until these fans discover that the FC Dallas stadium which might as well be in Oklahoma is used for high school football games during the soccer season. Maybe they should have installed turf to make it more tolerant for the MN climate. One game doesn't destroy a field.

[OzJohnnie]

BU worries me this weekend.  They have developed high levels of cardio of the last few years due to new, crazy training techniques they have adopted.