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jamtod

Quote from: OzJohnnie on July 13, 2020, 06:55:12 PM
Quote from: jamtod on July 13, 2020, 05:31:33 PM
I don't understand why the MIAC isn't just hiring Dr Oz as a consultant. He seems to have all the answers.

There have been concerns about the reliability of the rapid tests. This MN Monitoring outfit has only been doing antibody testing and it looks like their active infection testing begins tomorrow. Will be interesting to see what their scalability is, as testing and supplies (agents) have been a bottle neck here.

I looked into getting a rapid test last week before coming down to visit my parents. Urgency Room was about the only place offering it, and the rapid testing appointments they had were gone both days before I looked at 7:30am. If this can pickup and return times for lab testing improves, that will be good, but we've been observing these same testing issues for months.

Getting personal, eh? 

Don't flatter yourself. If I was getting personal, I'd have much more intense commentary. I was just leaning into your conveyed self-perception.

But at least we agree that we will beat this and before long, it will be a page in the history books. We just disagree about how long that will take, how well your native country has handled this thus far, and what steps are wise (or reasonable or necessary) to take to protect the vulnerable between now and that uncertain future time.

I'd be willing to bet a kangaroo burger that we won't be witnessing the final Johnnie-Tommie (blech :-X at that order, but following the site's standard) game, neither in person nor on the ol' grifter Johnnies' stream. Optimism is wonderful so long as it doesn't become delusion about reality.

faunch

Anyone know what time the MIAC presidents are meeting / zooming today?


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

sjusection105

Quote from: faunch on July 14, 2020, 11:29:08 AM
Anyone know what time the MIAC presidents are meeting / zooming today?
ADs today, Tuesday, and the Presidents meet tomorrow. No idea what platform they are using, maybe MySpace......
As of now they're on DOUBLE SECRET Probation!

jamtod

Pessimism trigger warning

Just saw that 11 MLB umps are opting out, in some cases due to vulnerable/sick family members. I guess this is another factor that conferences are going to have to take into account. Maybe we go with student coaching and student reffing this year, so that nobody outside of the safe 20 year old demographic has to be involved.

wally_wabash

Quote from: jamtod on July 14, 2020, 12:33:27 PM
Pessimism trigger warning

Just saw that 11 MLB umps are opting out, in some cases due to vulnerable/sick family members. I guess this is another factor that conferences are going to have to take into account. Maybe we go with student coaching and student reffing this year, so that nobody outside of the safe 20 year old demographic has to be involved.

Call your own, just like on the playground.  We can also play games endlessly without a clock until just before dinner time/sunset at which point, no matter what the score is, the next score wins and everybody hustles home as to not get grounded. 
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

miac952

Quote from: OzJohnnie on July 13, 2020, 07:27:07 PM
And speaking of optimism, University of Houston researchers have created an air filter which can be fitted to existing air conditioning systems and that kills 99.8% of airborne CV instantaneously.  It also kills 99.9% of airborne anthrax, the other silent killer.  More development required, etc, etc, but offices and schools and hospitals and the like can be fitted with air filtration systems.  I have little doubt that good ol' human ingenuity will so quickly overcome this viral challenge that we'll be standing around wondering what happened before long.

https://uh.edu/news-events/stories/july-2020/07072020ren-coronavirus-filter.php

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"This novel biodefense indoor air protection technology offers the first-in-line prevention against environmentally mediated transmission of airborne SARS-CoV-2 and will be on the forefront of technologies available to combat the current pandemic and any future airborne biothreats in indoor environments,"  Cheema said.

Hourani and Peel have called for a phased roll-out of the device, "beginning with high-priority venues, where essential workers are at elevated risk of exposure (particularly schools, hospitals and health care facilities, as well as public transit environs such as airplanes)."

That will both improve safety for frontline workers in essential industries and allow nonessential workers to return to public work spaces, they said.

This is interesting. Although, I am trying to find a benefit to it, other than a marketing gimmick?? The air will never circulate indoors frequently enough to reduce the risk of two people singing next to each other in a church or the two tables close to each other in a restaurant. There would have to be air exchanges every few feet, and an airflow setup like a commercial jet, which for all restaurant and church HVAC's isn't the case. Open as many doors and windows as possible. Cheaper and more efficient, albeit not a great solution in MN in the winter and AZ in the summer.

jamtod

Quote from: miac952 on July 14, 2020, 03:27:58 PM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on July 13, 2020, 07:27:07 PM
And speaking of optimism, University of Houston researchers have created an air filter which can be fitted to existing air conditioning systems and that kills 99.8% of airborne CV instantaneously.  It also kills 99.9% of airborne anthrax, the other silent killer.  More development required, etc, etc, but offices and schools and hospitals and the like can be fitted with air filtration systems.  I have little doubt that good ol' human ingenuity will so quickly overcome this viral challenge that we'll be standing around wondering what happened before long.

https://uh.edu/news-events/stories/july-2020/07072020ren-coronavirus-filter.php

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"This novel biodefense indoor air protection technology offers the first-in-line prevention against environmentally mediated transmission of airborne SARS-CoV-2 and will be on the forefront of technologies available to combat the current pandemic and any future airborne biothreats in indoor environments,"  Cheema said.

Hourani and Peel have called for a phased roll-out of the device, "beginning with high-priority venues, where essential workers are at elevated risk of exposure (particularly schools, hospitals and health care facilities, as well as public transit environs such as airplanes)."

That will both improve safety for frontline workers in essential industries and allow nonessential workers to return to public work spaces, they said.

This is interesting. Although, I am trying to find a benefit to it, other than a marketing gimmick?? The air will never circulate indoors frequently enough to reduce the risk of two people singing next to each other in a church or the two tables close to each other in a restaurant. There would have to be air exchanges every few feet, and an airflow setup like a commercial jet, which for all restaurant and church HVAC's isn't the case. Open as many doors and windows as possible. Cheaper and more efficient, albeit not a great solution in MN in the winter and AZ in the summer.

With reports about infections in crowded apartment buildings in New York or other places driven by air circulating through the heating/air ventilation systems, this could help for that application (or dorms. etc). But again, I don't think that's a huge source of spread and even if it was, it's going to take some time before these things are in production, and longer still before any kind of widespread adoption. It's great but it's not going to make a bit of difference towards whether football happens this fall or not.

faunch

Quote from: sjusection105 on July 14, 2020, 12:27:37 PM
Quote from: faunch on July 14, 2020, 11:29:08 AM
Anyone know what time the MIAC presidents are meeting / zooming today?
ADs today, Tuesday, and the Presidents meet tomorrow. No idea what platform they are using, maybe MySpace......
My bad....this morning my wife mentioned that we haven't had a sushi 🍣 night in a while...Wednesday is usually our sushi night...so it's her fault i thought today was Wednesday!


"I'm a uniter...not a divider."

OzJohnnie

Quote from: jamtod on July 13, 2020, 05:31:33 PM
I don't understand why the MIAC isn't just hiring Dr Oz as a consultant. He seems to have all the answers.

That's making it personal.  I can take your childish ridicule, mind you, but don't think you're not making it personal.  I had made no mention of you, by the way, nothing personal in my posting at all, merely hope.  Your first comment is personal ridicule, not substantive response.

So enjoy your 'above the fray' routine.  You chose to wallow in the mud.  You went there on your own.  Own it.
  

sjusection105

Prediction:If there is no MIAC football season in 2020, SJU has the most to lose both financially and in recruiting. The game day experience that SJU has is Top 5 in the country and if a recruit has not yet experienced it it's not something that can be duplicated in a Zoom meeting
As of now they're on DOUBLE SECRET Probation!

jamtod

Quote from: sjusection105 on July 15, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
Prediction:If there is no MIAC football season in 2020, SJU has the most to lose both financially and in recruiting. The game day experience that SJU has is Top 5 in the country and if a recruit has not yet experienced it it's not something that can be duplicated in a Zoom meeting

I concur. Plus whatever revenue comes from gate receipts in Collegeville and the livestream. Maybe if football happens with no live crowds, SJU can jack up the price of the stream and cash in with little or no overhead.

miac952

Quote from: sjusection105 on July 15, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
Prediction:If there is no MIAC football season in 2020, SJU has the most to lose both financially and in recruiting. The game day experience that SJU has is Top 5 in the country and if a recruit has not yet experienced it it's not something that can be duplicated in a Zoom meeting

Fasching needs to call Fleck. Love him or hate him, he appears to be dominating the pandemic recruiting cycle, beating out the big fish of the SEC for some recruits.

Texas Ole

Quote from: sjusection105 on July 15, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
Prediction:If there is no MIAC football season in 2020, SJU has the most to lose both financially and in recruiting. The game day experience that SJU has is Top 5 in the country and if a recruit has not yet experienced it it's not something that can be duplicated in a Zoom meeting

SJU might lose some in recruiting, but financially I think it has to be Bethel or maybe even Hamline.  Both have significantly lower endowments and are far more reliant on enrollment to cover expenses as a school.  A dip in enrollment or alumni giving could have major long term implications.

What impact does athletic recruiting have on potential student athletes at the D3 level?  I have to think it definitely has a few kids consider schools that are largely unknown to them previously.  I also imagine many of the kids are picking a school at the D3 level rather than a program. 

I believe the MIAC is stronger than it was a year ago, but the longer this virus lingers the more concerned I am about several schools in the conference.

sjusection105

Quote from: Texas Ole on July 15, 2020, 01:17:54 PM
Quote from: sjusection105 on July 15, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
Prediction:If there is no MIAC football season in 2020, SJU has the most to lose both financially and in recruiting. The game day experience that SJU has is Top 5 in the country and if a recruit has not yet experienced it it's not something that can be duplicated in a Zoom meeting

SJU might lose some in recruiting, but financially I think it has to be Bethel or maybe even Hamline.  Both have significantly lower endowments and are far more reliant on enrollment to cover expenses as a school.  A dip in enrollment or alumni giving could have major long term implications.

What impact does athletic recruiting have on potential student athletes at the D3 level?  I have to think it definitely has a few kids consider schools that are largely unknown to them previously.  I also imagine many of the kids are picking a school at the D3 level rather than a program. 

I believe the MIAC is stronger than it was a year ago, but the longer this virus lingers the more concerned I am about several schools in the conference.
I'm talking about financial impact on game day only. Putting 8,000+ in the stands every game and all the concessions that are sold is the financial impact I was getting at. SJU generates more revenue in a single game than half of the MIAC generates at their individual schools for the entire football season.
As of now they're on DOUBLE SECRET Probation!

Texas Ole

Quote from: sjusection105 on July 15, 2020, 02:34:32 PM
Quote from: Texas Ole on July 15, 2020, 01:17:54 PM
Quote from: sjusection105 on July 15, 2020, 09:58:20 AM
Prediction:If there is no MIAC football season in 2020, SJU has the most to lose both financially and in recruiting. The game day experience that SJU has is Top 5 in the country and if a recruit has not yet experienced it it's not something that can be duplicated in a Zoom meeting

SJU might lose some in recruiting, but financially I think it has to be Bethel or maybe even Hamline.  Both have significantly lower endowments and are far more reliant on enrollment to cover expenses as a school.  A dip in enrollment or alumni giving could have major long term implications.

What impact does athletic recruiting have on potential student athletes at the D3 level?  I have to think it definitely has a few kids consider schools that are largely unknown to them previously.  I also imagine many of the kids are picking a school at the D3 level rather than a program. 

I believe the MIAC is stronger than it was a year ago, but the longer this virus lingers the more concerned I am about several schools in the conference.
I'm talking about financial impact on game day only. Putting 8,000+ in the stands every game and all the concessions that are sold is the financial impact I was getting at. SJU generates more revenue in a single game than half of the MIAC generates at their individual schools for the entire football season.

No argument with those numbers.