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Red Dawg

Quote from: tmerton on May 23, 2009, 03:44:29 PM
A football article(!) in the Daily Planet confirms that Hansell and Crees are not going to play next year (neither had participated in spring practices).  So it will be Boyle and a cast of newcomers.

Edit: The lack of depth is a concern.  Crees may indeed not be playing because his shoulder injury has not fully healed, but Hansel could play.  Either he won't settle for not being the starter and is taking his ball and going home, or else his decision is a result of how the QB situation was handled last year.

Do they have many players that walk on to the football program at the DivisionIII level and try out for quarter back? I looked over the post from Frank and it seemed like most were the line players and db's, rb's.  Do a number of these players play specialty spots as well like placekicker and punter? 

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Quote from: Red Dawg on May 25, 2009, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: tmerton on May 23, 2009, 03:44:29 PM
A football article(!) in the Daily Planet confirms that Hansell and Crees are not going to play next year (neither had participated in spring practices).  So it will be Boyle and a cast of newcomers.

Edit: The lack of depth is a concern.  Crees may indeed not be playing because his shoulder injury has not fully healed, but Hansel could play.  Either he won't settle for not being the starter and is taking his ball and going home, or else his decision is a result of how the QB situation was handled last year.

Do they have many players that walk on to the football program at the DivisionIII level and try out for quarter back? I looked over the post from Frank and it seemed like most were the line players and db's, rb's.  Do a number of these players play specialty spots as well like placekicker and punter? 

Everyone at the DIII level is pretty much a "Walk On" as there are no scholarships.  As long as you pay your way to the school you can try out, no matter what the position.
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Quote from: kirasdad on May 25, 2009, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Red Dawg on May 25, 2009, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: tmerton on May 23, 2009, 03:44:29 PM
A football article(!) in the Daily Planet confirms that Hansell and Crees are not going to play next year (neither had participated in spring practices).  So it will be Boyle and a cast of newcomers.

Edit: The lack of depth is a concern.  Crees may indeed not be playing because his shoulder injury has not fully healed, but Hansel could play.  Either he won't settle for not being the starter and is taking his ball and going home, or else his decision is a result of how the QB situation was handled last year.

Do they have many players that walk on to the football program at the DivisionIII level and try out for quarter back? I looked over the post from Frank and it seemed like most were the line players and db's, rb's.  Do a number of these players play specialty spots as well like placekicker and punter? 

Everyone at the DIII level is pretty much a "Walk On" as there are no scholarships.  As long as you pay your way to the school you can try out, no matter what the position.

Correct, but potentially misleading.

At least at the 'power programs', virtually everyone who contributes much has been recruited (though I don't doubt that even at MUC or SJU, there is an occasional starter who simply decided to try out from the unrecruited student body.

Red Dawg

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 25, 2009, 09:24:51 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on May 25, 2009, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Red Dawg on May 25, 2009, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: tmerton on May 23, 2009, 03:44:29 PM
A football article(!) in the Daily Planet confirms that Hansell and Crees are not going to play next year (neither had participated in spring practices).  So it will be Boyle and a cast of newcomers.

Edit: The lack of depth is a concern.  Crees may indeed not be playing because his shoulder injury has not fully healed, but Hansel could play.  Either he won't settle for not being the starter and is taking his ball and going home, or else his decision is a result of how the QB situation was handled last year.

Do they have many players that walk on to the football program at the DivisionIII level and try out for quarter back? I looked over the post from Frank and it seemed like most were the line players and db's, rb's.  Do a number of these players play specialty spots as well like placekicker and punter? 

Everyone at the DIII level is pretty much a "Walk On" as there are no scholarships.  As long as you pay your way to the school you can try out, no matter what the position.

Correct, but potentially misleading.

At least at the 'power programs', virtually everyone who contributes much has been recruited (though I don't doubt that even at MUC or SJU, there is an occasional starter who simply decided to try out from the unrecruited student body.

So it is fair to say that there will be a number of players that will be on the field for St. John's as an example, that Frank from the St. Cloud paper will have never reported on?

raiderguy

Red Dawg,

Frank does a good job of keeping track of who is coming to SJU and it would seem hard to imagine many players who start come in off the radar screen. What I have been reading and hearing there seems to be a good group coming and a common theme has been the players were considering St Thomas but chose SJU instead. They better find a back-up QB early with the news that two of last years QB's are not planning to play this year.

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Quote from: raiderguy on May 25, 2009, 11:16:37 PM
Nothing like playing for John.........well maybe one other guy? ;)

But Bud Grant has retired, so I can't think of who you could possibly mean... ;)
  

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Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on May 25, 2009, 09:24:51 PM
Quote from: kirasdad on May 25, 2009, 09:14:30 PM
Quote from: Red Dawg on May 25, 2009, 08:38:31 PM
Quote from: tmerton on May 23, 2009, 03:44:29 PM
A football article(!) in the Daily Planet confirms that Hansell and Crees are not going to play next year (neither had participated in spring practices).  So it will be Boyle and a cast of newcomers.

Edit: The lack of depth is a concern.  Crees may indeed not be playing because his shoulder injury has not fully healed, but Hansel could play.  Either he won't settle for not being the starter and is taking his ball and going home, or else his decision is a result of how the QB situation was handled last year.

Do they have many players that walk on to the football program at the DivisionIII level and try out for quarter back? I looked over the post from Frank and it seemed like most were the line players and db's, rb's.  Do a number of these players play specialty spots as well like placekicker and punter? 

Everyone at the DIII level is pretty much a "Walk On" as there are no scholarships.  As long as you pay your way to the school you can try out, no matter what the position.

Correct, but potentially misleading.

At least at the 'power programs', virtually everyone who contributes much has been recruited (though I don't doubt that even at MUC or SJU, there is an occasional starter who simply decided to try out from the unrecruited student body.

I'm not going to argue semantics with you, but even at other "levels" they have recruited Walk-ons and Preferred Walk-ons.  The question that was posed was misleading as they really don't have a "walk-on"status at DIII.
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Quote from: raiderguy on May 25, 2009, 11:16:37 PM
Red Dawg,

Frank does a good job of keeping track of who is coming to SJU and it would seem hard to imagine many players who start come in off the radar screen. What I have been reading and hearing there seems to be a good group coming and a common theme has been the players were considering St Thomas but chose SJU instead. They better find a back-up QB early with the news that two of last years QB's are not planning to play this year.

Nothing like playing for John.........well maybe one other guy? ;)

The barometer that you use to compare the success of St. John's is St. Thomas?  Would it be fair to say that the majority of student athlete's that are heading to St. John's also had St. Thomas on their final list?  What makes the group coming in so good and what have you heard that is different from what Frank reports?

raiderguy

The St. John's /St. Thomas is the most immediate and local of rivalries for comparison that's why I mention it.

I would not say a majority have both but it always is considered a measure of success by either program. Yes in the articles I have read there has been a consistant theme that St Thomas was in the mix of the recent commits.

I have no inside track on others besides talking to some of the coaches in January at the Red Tie Gala and they mentioned some highly regarded prospects that have since commited to St. John's.
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Red Dawg

Quote from: raiderguy on May 26, 2009, 09:00:58 AM
The St. John's /St. Thomas is the most immediate and local of rivalries for comparison that's why I mention it.

I would not say a majority have both but it always is considered a measure of success by either program. Yes in the articles I have read there has been a consistant theme that St Thomas was in the mix of the recent commits.

I have no inside track on others besides talking to some of the coaches in January at the Red Tie Gala and they mentioned some highly regarded prospects that have since commited to St. John's.

So it is fair to say that everyone that the coaches shared information on with you has been discussed in Franks' blog.

finsleft

Quote from: tmerton on May 23, 2009, 03:44:29 PM
Either he won't settle for not being the starter and is taking his ball and going home, or else his decision is a result of how the QB situation was handled last year.

More like, how the situation was mis-handled last year. There was a lot of second guessing by fans about the respective merits of the QB's who played last year. But it's real hard for anyone to play when the OC ties one arm behind your back. When a QB is in and gets a rhythm going, gets to the red zone, and suddenly the genius OC starts sending in plays. The offense sputters, and the QB gets blamed for not being able to finish a drive or put up TD's. I'd say it takes more balls to walk away, but it probably beats putting up with that kind of bullsh!t.