FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[TC]

So WCCO TV just did a blip on Tim Cornish a db from bethel.  I didn't listen to much of the interview, just kept laughing about how bethel has only 4 miac championships and they are screen printed on their practice jerseys.

OMG--WCCO IS IN ON THE CORNISH CONSPIRACY!!!!!

[stanbob]

So WCCO TV just did a blip on Tim Cornish a db from bethel.  I didn't listen to much of the interview, just kept laughing about how bethel has only 4 miac championships and they are screen printed on their practice jerseys.

OMG--WCCO IS IN ON THE CORNISH CONSPIRACY!!!!!

Further proof that the media has a severe left slant to it 

[DutchFan2004]

Maybe-but in this economy would the NCAA set up two possible flights in the first round-and second round? If one of those teams moved South that might be possible.

Remember that the Nathcon has an auto bid, so it is possible that if CC of WI wins, they would be the 8th seeded team in the "West," especially if UWW or maybe Monmouth moves "North."

We may end up with three deep south teams, Huntingdon, Mississippi College and Mary Hardin-Baylor. Either one of the other two could play Mississippi College but the third might be forced to fly somewhere.

If that happens they could go to Linfield and the SCIAC could have a rematch first round as I have posted before.  That would save the NCAA lots of money as they only have one first round flight and the winner of the game at Linfield would play the Cali winner so there is only one flight second round. 

[OzJohnnie]

On the Regional Rankings: the real crime of the committee's abrogation of responsibility in the West is that it eliminates the need for the committee itself.  If all they are going to do is follow a rote procedure, then what good are they?  Give the job to some freshman student worker and let him maintain a spreadsheet.  This is as bad as BCS in concept and execution.  Apparently, the position and eligibility of teams for the play-offs comes down to a craps shoot made on non-conference scheduling made years in advance.  The good news?  Northwestern may get their shot to play the johnnies after all.

I wonder which of the committee bozos sat in that first meeting this year arguing they should follow this procedure to eliminate all perception of bias.  Unfortunately, it also eliminated all evidence of competency.  Whoever the bozo was, they seem to have forgotten that they were selected specifically because of their professional (and fair) bias as to judging the relative talents of closely ranked teams.  I bet the dessenters from the 'scientific' are feeling pretty hot right now as they look like doofuses.  I guess we don't need them at all next week now.  We can figure out the rankings ourselves at about sundown Sunday night in California.

Lame.   

[CobberFvr]

WEST REGION
1. St. John's 8-0 8-0
2. UW-Whitewater 6-0 8-0
3. Linfield 7-0 8-0
4. Central 9-0 9-0
5. Monmouth 9-0 9-0
6. St. Thomas 7-1 7-1
7. Coe 7-1 7-1
8. Cal Lutheran 6-1 6-1
9. Redlands 6-1 6-1
10. St. Norbert 8-1 8-1


Well they are getting closer to getting it right...IMO it should be Whitewater and then the undefeated threesome of SJU, Linfield and Central in any order, followed by the one loss teams in any order...Lutheran and Redlands have a showdown coming up in two weeks for a berth so one of those teams will be out...and wow, St. Norbert making a case to be in the playoffs...I doubt the MWC has ever had two teams in the playoffs but the carnage that is the WIAC after WW has opened a door.  

Here is an interesting question...Bethel beats UST in a 3 point game or in OT and both finish 8-2.  Are they both out...is Bethel in or could both get in because of who they lost to and how they lost?

Anyway you look at it, Johnnies just need to take care of the next two games and hope that RF and EC win this week in the WIAC and then let chips fall where they may...

No offense to the SJU faithful, but the Johnnies are not better than Whitewater. And that will be proven. I think it should look something like...

1. UW-W
2. SJU
3. Linfield
etc...

[OzJohnnie]

I think there is a reasonable argument to be made that UWW is the number one seeded team, even above MUC, in terms of region seeds.

As a professional committee the performance of the Westies is simply undefendable.  And the effect of this desertion of responsibility is unpredictable.  The brackets committee (whatever they are called) potentially hold tgis regional guidance in the same contempt we do, the result being they disregard it.  Or potentially worse, they feel a sense of loyalty to the no-show committee and follow their 'recommendations' thereby keeping UWW in the West, rather than feeling free to move them into another region as a number one seed.

Disgraceful.

[DutchHawk]

WEST REGION
1. St. John's 8-0 8-0
2. UW-Whitewater 6-0 8-0
3. Linfield 7-0 8-0
4. Central 9-0 9-0
5. Monmouth 9-0 9-0
6. St. Thomas 7-1 7-1
7. Coe 7-1 7-1
8. Cal Lutheran 6-1 6-1
9. Redlands 6-1 6-1
10. St. Norbert 8-1 8-1


Well they are getting closer to getting it right...IMO it should be Whitewater and then the undefeated threesome of SJU, Linfield and Central in any order, followed by the one loss teams in any order...Lutheran and Redlands have a showdown coming up in two weeks for a berth so one of those teams will be out...and wow, St. Norbert making a case to be in the playoffs...I doubt the MWC has ever had two teams in the playoffs but the carnage that is the WIAC after WW has opened a door.  

Here is an interesting question...Bethel beats UST in a 3 point game or in OT and both finish 8-2.  Are they both out...is Bethel in or could both get in because of who they lost to and how they lost?

Anyway you look at it, Johnnies just need to take care of the next two games and hope that RF and EC win this week in the WIAC and then let chips fall where they may...

No offense to the SJU faithful, but the Johnnies are not better than Whitewater. And that will be proven. I think it should look something like...

1. UW-W
2. Central
3. SJU/Linfield
etc...

Fixed it for you

[TC]

No offense to the SJU faithful, but the Johnnies are not better than Whitewater. And that will be proven. I think it should look something like...

1. UW-W
2. SJU
3. Linfield
etc...

In defense of the SJU faithful, I don't think anyone actually believes SJU is better than UW-W/should be ranked above UW-W.  As OzJohnnie points out, it's pretty mysterious that the committee refuses to rank UW-Whitewater first in the region.  Personally, I can't believe that when the dust settles, St. John's will be seeded higher than an undefeated UW-Whitewater in the West. 

[DustySJU]

No offense to the SJU faithful, but the Johnnies are not better than Whitewater. And that will be proven. I think it should look something like...

1. UW-W
2. SJU
3. Linfield
etc...

In defense of the SJU faithful, I don't think anyone actually believes SJU is better than UW-W/should be ranked above UW-W.  As OzJohnnie points out, it's pretty mysterious that the committee refuses to rank UW-Whitewater first in the region.  Personally, I can't believe that when the dust settles, St. John's will be seeded higher than an undefeated UW-Whitewater in the West.  

I think what you have to keep in mind TC once again is strength of schedule.  How strong is the UWW SOS?  The Warhawks are something like 34 - 1 against their conference opponents over the past seasons so the question must be raised how really tough is their schedule?

Not even St. John's when they owned the MIAC would go 34 - 1 against conference opponents so one must consider the myth that's been promoted here with the WIAC being the toughest conference nationwide.  

I don't personally believe that's true anymore now than it may have been several years ago when there were teams battling it out for first.  The WIAC is a very lopsided conference.

Prepare yourself TC as there are very legitimate reasons(SOS) to make SJU the #1 or #2 seed overall.  Of course they'll need to stomp Auggie and Carleton the next two weekends.

Developing....

[TC]

Over that same period of time, UW-Whitewater is 16-0 against non-Mount Union playoff opponents (and 1-3 against Mount Union, which is pretty reasonable).  And, of course, they're 3-0 against St. John's during that period.

It's not like they're getting a free pass through the UMAC or MWC or something, then getting destroyed in the playoffs.  I agree that beating Dickinson St., Midland Lutheran, and Puget Sound 138-10 in non-conference play doesn't tell us anything new about UW-Whitewater, but they haven't done anything this season to make me think they're anything but the best team in the West. 

[sju56321]

SJU posters need to read the daily dose, people thinking SJU should be the #1 overall seed, because the NCAA might want to avoid another UWW v. MUC Stagg Bowl.

[D O.C.]

the NCAA might want to avoid another UWW v. MUC Stagg Bowl.

Why would they do that when those games have been very entertaining to the unattached observer?

Let's assume the Grand 'Ol Man has been playing opossum this year and the MIAC champ is definitely the #1 team in the West, where are decent (2 star) motels to stay within 15 minutes of Clemens that have public transportation to near the campus? Would http://johnniefootball.com/ list such?

[Touchdown Tommy]

Dens:  Just call Touchdown Tommy.  I'll take care of you and GHC and 11.  There is a 5 star palace in Avon,MN.  You'll love it.  Akin to the Casa del Mar in Santa Monica...

BTW: Public Transportation is non-existent in Central MN.  You rent a car from MSP or hitchhike with W. Clark as he passes along 94.

If it comes to it in the playoffs, TDT will break it down for any potential visitors...Call it JohnnieFootball.com's Chamber of Commerce

[sju56321]

I would suggest staying at the Abbey Guest House right on campus. That way you can pray for your team the night before in the proper surroundings.

[cobbernation]

TC,

Is your handle on the twins website BabyJesusMVP?