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AO

Quote from: Redtooth on December 09, 2009, 04:37:18 PM
AO,

Sid was hardly the only one that acknowledged Bobby's candidacy.  It was widely discussed in Rivals as well.  The person no one mentioned prior to his acceptance of the job was Brewster.  I think it is widely known that Maturi settled for a third-tier unknown when the others he wanted were less than interested; Patterson, Strong, Kiffin, Dungy, Hauck etc..  Directly from Sid:

"But by that evening of Jan. 15, surprising reports emerged that the Gophers would hire an NFL tight ends coach named Tim Brewster. Those reports became fact the next day, as athletic director Joel Maturi went with a coach who had been an assistant at North Carolina and Texas and in the pros with the San Diego Chargers and Denver Broncos; he had never been a coordinator at any of those jobs.

Yes, nobody had ever heard of Brewster, he didn't have the coaching background of other candidates, and when he was selected instead of Strong, I was among the many who were shocked."


In terms of playing hard and talent, your entitled to your opinion but for a team to come back like Montana did against SDSU they clearly play hard.  The fact that MN played like dead fish until the game was given to them late also indicates something less than stellar effort as was discussed in the Star Trib article the day after.  Ask the common opponent who played harder and has more talent and I don't think they would say the Gophers.  I also know one of the teams has a vote in this week's Top 25 and one doesn't.
Strong, Patterson and Kiffin were very interested.   Hauck could very well have won the job, but he would have been just as big of a surprise as Brewster was.   You're not going to be able to tell how a Minnesota vs Montana game would look like based upon how Hauck is being looked at for 1A jobs.   If I was a south dakota state player, I think it'd be a no-brainer that team we couldn't score a TD against was more talented than the team we were dominating early, then just didn't execute at the end against.  Nobody with any sense would pick Montana over Minnesota.     .....back to MIAC progamming.

WashedUp

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Quote from: AO on December 09, 2009, 05:13:23 PM
Strong, Patterson and Kiffin were very interested.   Hauck could very well have won the job, but he would have been just as big of a surprise as Brewster was.   You're not going to be able to tell how a Minnesota vs Montana game would look like based upon how Hauck is being looked at for 1A jobs.   If I was a south dakota state player, I think it'd be a no-brainer that team we couldn't score a TD against was more talented than the team we were dominating early, then just didn't execute at the end against.  Nobody with any sense would pick Montana over Minnesota.     .....back to MIAC progamming.

I don't think that the argument was ever whether Montana would beat Minnesota (though I do think if they played in Missoula without Decker the Griz would win).  The argument was whether Hauck would be a candidate for the Gopher job if Brewster were to be fired.  If he were in the running when Brewster was hired, I don't think the last several years of Griz domination have hurt his chances at all, especially after the National Championship this year.
MIAC Champions: 1924, 1992

stanbob

I will take Montana and the points.  And I would win more often than not.
Everyday is payday in paradise.

finsleft


VOJ

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Quote from: WithasilentK on December 09, 2009, 02:52:07 PM
Quote from: VOJ on December 09, 2009, 12:46:45 PM
Quote from: WithasilentK on December 07, 2009, 07:02:36 PM
And that wraps up the MIAC season.  Congrats to the UST players.

Seeing as the MIAC season is over, it's time for next season predictions.  What? Too soon?

1.  UST
2.  Carleton
3.  Bethel
4.  SJU
5.  STO
6.  Auggie Tech
7.  CCM
8.  GAC
9.  Hamline

Yes, I'm serious.

Before we bury the defending conference champs...remember they return all their offensive stat leaders...Boyle, Redding and Overman in the passing, rushing and receiving...

Defensively there are losses but guys behind them have gotten some time and should be ready to strut their stuff...

We did lose our kicker and punter, and even though SJU probably does not have someone with Gliadon's leg they still should be able to find someone to put the ball through the uprights.


I'm not burying them, I think the top 4 will be very close and will lose to eachother once or twice, but I think it shakes out like that in the end.  It may be any combination of those teams.  And I am saying this in December, it's not like I am giving a be all end all prediction of the season, that comes in August.

And I'm sure that those 3 may improve in the offseaon, but the return of this:

Jakob Reding      9  145  699   17  682   4.7   5   45  75.8
Joe Boyle            9  134.72  114-206-6   55.3 1461  16  58 162.3
Josh Overman    10   33  479  14.5   5   38  47.9

is not striking fear into any team.

Ok maybe those numbers are not the most impressive but you can't argue with these numbers...10, 31 and for good measure 26.  IF you don't know what they mean u better ask someone

cobbernation

Quote from: stanbob on December 09, 2009, 06:08:29 PM
I will take Montana and the points.  And I would win more often than not.

I would take MT over MN any day of the week.  I would even take Dave Dickenson's '95 team over this years gopher team.  Too bad for brewster he almost got a new years day bowl (as he predicted before his first year), just one day short and in AZ.  That's just a few miles from Pasadena.

Give brewster 2 years more of coaching.  Let 2 recruiting classes show what they can do.

sjusection105

Quote from: finsleft on December 09, 2009, 06:44:49 PM
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How many 30-packs of Hamms went into this project? Excellent Fins, thanks for sharing.
As of now they're on DOUBLE SECRET Probation!

stanbob

And is there a Fins Jr in the project?  +K
Everyday is payday in paradise.

tmerton

Quote from: stanbob on December 09, 2009, 08:58:28 PM
And is there a Fins Jr in the project?  +K

It was produced by abbeyvocations.com, so I suspect neither Fins nor Fins Jr had much to do with it. ;)

But it's definitely a +k award winner.

tmerton

Quote from: WithasilentK on December 09, 2009, 02:52:07 PM
Quote from: VOJ on December 09, 2009, 12:46:45 PM
Quote from: WithasilentK on December 07, 2009, 07:02:36 PM
And that wraps up the MIAC season.  Congrats to the UST players.

Seeing as the MIAC season is over, it's time for next season predictions.  What? Too soon?

1.  UST
2.  Carleton
3.  Bethel
4.  SJU
5.  STO
6.  Auggie Tech
7.  CCM
8.  GAC
9.  Hamline

Yes, I'm serious.

Before we bury the defending conference champs...remember they return all their offensive stat leaders...Boyle, Redding and Overman in the passing, rushing and receiving...

Defensively there are losses but guys behind them have gotten some time and should be ready to strut their stuff...

We did lose our kicker and punter, and even though SJU probably does not have someone with Gliadon's leg they still should be able to find someone to put the ball through the uprights.


I'm not burying them, I think the top 4 will be very close and will lose to eachother once or twice, but I think it shakes out like that in the end.  It may be any combination of those teams.  And I am saying this in December, it's not like I am giving a be all end all prediction of the season, that comes in August.

And I'm sure that those 3 may improve in the offseaon, but the return of this:

Jakob Reding      9  145  699   17  682   4.7   5   45  75.8
Joe Boyle            9  134.72  114-206-6   55.3 1461  16  58 162.3
Josh Overman    10   33  479  14.5   5   38  47.9

is not striking fear into any team.

The statistics may not bowl you over but Boyle was first team All-MIAC and Reding and Overman were second team, so they earned someone's respect.  I'm more concerned with replacing some of the O-line.

stanbob

Everyday is payday in paradise.

WashedUp

Quote from: tmerton on December 09, 2009, 09:59:07 PM
Quote from: WithasilentK on December 09, 2009, 02:52:07 PM
Quote from: VOJ on December 09, 2009, 12:46:45 PM
Quote from: WithasilentK on December 07, 2009, 07:02:36 PM
And that wraps up the MIAC season.  Congrats to the UST players.

Seeing as the MIAC season is over, it's time for next season predictions.  What? Too soon?

1.  UST
2.  Carleton
3.  Bethel
4.  SJU
5.  STO
6.  Auggie Tech
7.  CCM
8.  GAC
9.  Hamline

Yes, I'm serious.

Before we bury the defending conference champs...remember they return all their offensive stat leaders...Boyle, Redding and Overman in the passing, rushing and receiving...

Defensively there are losses but guys behind them have gotten some time and should be ready to strut their stuff...

We did lose our kicker and punter, and even though SJU probably does not have someone with Gliadon's leg they still should be able to find someone to put the ball through the uprights.


I'm not burying them, I think the top 4 will be very close and will lose to eachother once or twice, but I think it shakes out like that in the end.  It may be any combination of those teams.  And I am saying this in December, it's not like I am giving a be all end all prediction of the season, that comes in August.

And I'm sure that those 3 may improve in the offseaon, but the return of this:

Jakob Reding      9  145  699   17  682   4.7   5   45  75.8
Joe Boyle            9  134.72  114-206-6   55.3 1461  16  58 162.3
Josh Overman    10   33  479  14.5   5   38  47.9

is not striking fear into any team.

The statistics may not bowl you over but Boyle was first team All-MIAC and Reding and Overman were second team, so they earned someone's respect.  I'm more concerned with replacing some of the O-line.

You're returning 3 starters on the O-line, I would be more concerned about the defense.  Losing 8 or 9 starters on the defensive side is never good.  Also, I know Gliadon made a big kick against Bethel and kickoff coverage was great, but your special teams really let you guys down last year.  Being 8th in punting average, 8th in punt return average and 9th in kick return average would have showed a lot more if the defense wasn't so dominant (also recall a botched punt in a key situation in a rivalry game).  So, like I said, if I were a Johnnie fan, I would be worried about defense and special teams this offseason, not O-line.
MIAC Champions: 1924, 1992

tmerton

Quote from: WashedUp on December 09, 2009, 10:57:10 PM
I would be more concerned about the defense.  Losing 8 or 9 starters on the defensive side is never good.

It won't be that many, plus with all the injuries this year a lot of the reserves got to play and played well.  The biggest losses in my view will be Wimmer and Eid (Gunderson got hurt early so I don't include him solely for that reason), but both missed games and others filled in for them and played well.  And Schroeder, while listed as a senior, has a medical redshirt year.  So there won't be that many to replace and there are some great kids waiting in the wings. 

OTOH, I have no idea who will do the kicking next year.  Glaidon will be very hard to replace. 

stanbob

Everyday is payday in paradise.

finsleft

Quote from: stanbob on December 09, 2009, 08:58:28 PM
And is there a Fins Jr in the project?  +K

The only Fins Jr. in the project is that one usually sits 10 paces from the door. We're in our 5th year of what should be an 8 year stretch of spreading cheer and selling bread at the info desk.
Tough shoes to fill after Wooderson and Duffman left.