FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DustySJU]

All this talk about who is going to win the MIAC in 2010 is a little ridiculous.  What really concerns me is the first game of the non-conference schedule.  I have a couple of SJU football players in the course I teach at CSB/SJU and rumor has it that Northwestern College will be the first game of the year on September 4th.  It is not on the SJU website yet, but you can bet the SJU coaching staff as we speak are watching film of that close contest back in 2005 when the Johnnies won in a squeaker 57-7.  SJU will have to play a mistake-free game to have a chance if this match-up turns out to be true.

NOOOoooooo...  Please say it isn't true.  I won't be able to withstand the Tommie insults hurled our way on the creampuff schedule.

Ditto on the 2010 schedule, that'd be downright depressing if Northwestern was the home opener.... I'd seriously consider boycotting a silly matchup like that.  

I was fairly certain the Johnnies would be playing the Falcons and Blugolds once again....

Ridiculous if we get stuck with Roseville tech.

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[VOJ]

All this talk about who is going to win the MIAC in 2010 is a little ridiculous.  What really concerns me is the first game of the non-conference schedule.  I have a couple of SJU football players in the course I teach at CSB/SJU and rumor has it that Northwestern College will be the first game of the year on September 4th.  It is not on the SJU website yet, but you can bet the SJU coaching staff as we speak are watching film of that close contest back in 2005 when the Johnnies won in a squeaker 57-7.  SJU will have to play a mistake-free game to have a chance if this match-up turns out to be true.

NOOOoooooo...  Please say it isn't true.  I won't be able to withstand the Tommie insults hurled our way on the creampuff schedule.

Ditto on the 2010 schedule, that'd be downright depressing if Northwestern was the home opener.... I'd seriously consider boycotting a silly matchup like that.  

I was fairly certain the Johnnies would be playing the Falcons and Blugolds once again....

Rediculous if we get stuck with Roseville tech.

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I can confirm that negotiations for a matchup with Northwestern is happening...the Falcons dropped SJU in favor of playing UST.  I understand the soft schedule talk, but think of it as a preseason game for the Js followed by a tougher test at UWEC...

[AO]

In case you hadn't noticed, Northwestern beat River Falls in 08 and lost by 3 this year.  Playing River Falls also results in a hit to SJU's OWP as the Falcons have averaged 3 wins a year, while playing Northwestern gives opponents a big boost in the strength of schedule ratings as Northwestern has been averaging 8 wins a year.  I'm a big believer in teams scheduling top-tier opponents as it clearly prepares you to win down the line, but in the case of St. John's you practically have to search coast-to-coast across multiple divisions to find that sort of team.  When is St. Cloud State going to go back on the schedule?  Who's preventing that matchup?

[sjusection105]

ANY MIACmaniacs going to the semi-finals?   

Nope, I'm going fishing with these guys...

http://www.outdoors911.com/reports/showthread.php?s=40173dc94ba7e9d091e522b19d2f510f&t=13095

The ice should be thick enough this weekend after 3 nights of sub-zero temps. Please Fins, bring a dry-suit 

[RussellT22]

SJU vs Northwestern is happening. Mail it in. I 100% guarantee it.

As much as we might lament this "soft" type of schedule, the reality is that there isn't much benefit to playing 2 tough non conference games. The NCAA has made it clear that it won't really reward teams that play a difficult schedule. It is much more important to go 10-0 or 9-1 with a "soft" schedule than to risk being 8-2 with a more difficult schedule.

SCSU will never be on the schedule. There is nothing to be gained from that matchup for either program.

[OzJohnnie]

I like my creampuffs with chocolate covered strawberries, thanks.

Is this serious?  RF dropped us in favor of USTd?  Look, I'm not one prone to dramatization or snap jusgements (Noooooo, they all say.  You aren't.  *cough*, *cough), but this has been one shockingly rough post season.  All I need now is for my wife to steal my druck and for my best buddy to steal my dog and I'll be set to write Kenny Rodgers' comeback ditty.

[OzJohnnie]

I don't even know what the hell a druck is, but if she carries it away in the back of my truck then there will be nothing but tears for poor old Oz.

[retagent]

Everyone's trying to take shots at Ovie now. He got called for an Unsportsmanlike/diving yesterday that was ridiculous. Ryan Miller had a horse shoe up his a$$ last night, so it didn't really matter in the big scheme of things, but I think the other coaches must have gone to the league office and cried like little girls, and the refs got the word.

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

In case you hadn't noticed, Northwestern beat River Falls in 08 and lost by 3 this year.  Playing River Falls also results in a hit to SJU's OWP as the Falcons have averaged 3 wins a year, while playing Northwestern gives opponents a big boost in the strength of schedule ratings as Northwestern has been averaging 8 wins a year.  I'm a big believer in teams scheduling top-tier opponents as it clearly prepares you to win down the line, but in the case of St. John's you practically have to search coast-to-coast across multiple divisions to find that sort of team.  When is St. Cloud State going to go back on the schedule?  Who's preventing that matchup?

In case YOU hadnt noticed, none of us -  red or purple - have a drop of respect for NWern  Probably most of that isnt the fault of the football team/program

[tmerton]

All this talk about who is going to win the MIAC in 2010 is a little ridiculous.  What really concerns me is the first game of the non-conference schedule.  I have a couple of SJU football players in the course I teach at CSB/SJU and rumor has it that Northwestern College will be the first game of the year on September 4th.  It is not on the SJU website yet, but you can bet the SJU coaching staff as we speak are watching film of that close contest back in 2005 when the Johnnies won in a squeaker 57-7.  SJU will have to play a mistake-free game to have a chance if this match-up turns out to be true.

NOOOoooooo...  Please say it isn't true.  I won't be able to withstand the Tommie insults hurled our way on the creampuff schedule.

Ditto on the 2010 schedule, that'd be downright depressing if Northwestern was the home opener.... I'd seriously consider boycotting a silly matchup like that.  

I was fairly certain the Johnnies would be playing the Falcons and Blugolds once again....

Rediculous if we get stuck with Roseville tech.

Developing...

I can confirm that negotiations for a matchup with Northwestern is happening...the Falcons dropped SJU in favor of playing UST.  I understand the soft schedule talk, but think of it as a preseason game for the Js followed by a tougher test at UWEC...

Seems to me that someone's got some 'splainin to do.  First it was that Michigan school that pulled out two years ago (I knew an Adrian Dominican once; I blame her), which required that we go seek the University of Southern Baptists in Texas Who Weren't Afraid To Go To Minnesota, and now we get to play AO's relatives.  Can't we do better than this?  

[VOJ]

In case you hadn't noticed, Northwestern beat River Falls in 08 and lost by 3 this year.  Playing River Falls also results in a hit to SJU's OWP as the Falcons have averaged 3 wins a year, while playing Northwestern gives opponents a big boost in the strength of schedule ratings as Northwestern has been averaging 8 wins a year.  I'm a big believer in teams scheduling top-tier opponents as it clearly prepares you to win down the line, but in the case of St. John's you practically have to search coast-to-coast across multiple divisions to find that sort of team.  When is St. Cloud State going to go back on the schedule?  Who's preventing that matchup?

To echo the view points of others, this will never happen again...for a few reasons but the major being that times have changed and while back in the day there might not have been much difference between SJU and SCSU now with the scholarships that SCSU hands out and the fact that a game against them would not help when it comes to determining regional rankings...you might have a great crowd to watch it but it won't happen, much like an SJU-SCSU matchup on ice.

I like my creampuffs with chocolate covered strawberries, thanks.

Is this serious?  RF dropped us in favor of USTd?  Look, I'm not one prone to dramatization or snap jusgements (Noooooo, they all say.  You aren't.  *cough*, *cough), but this has been one shockingly rough post season.  All I need now is for my wife to steal my druck and for my best buddy to steal my dog and I'll be set to write Kenny Rodgers' comeback ditty.

OZ from what I have heard RF wants to better recruit in the Twin Cities area and feels that they can get better exposure that way playing the Tommies...Personally I don't mind playing Northwestern at home, going that stadium is less than desireable, there are high school facilities in the TC that are much better.

[OzJohnnie]

I hear your argument, VOJ, but I remain unpersuaded.  When you go home with the last 'chick' left in the bar a guy can rationalize that it's OK since at least they are going home with someone.  The fact is, though, that sometimes it's better to go home alone even if the bar isn't empty.

[VOJ]

I hear your argument, VOJ, but I remain unpersuaded.  When you go home with the last 'chick' left in the bar a guy can rationalize that it's OK since at least they are going home with someone.  The fact is, though, that sometimes it's better to go home alone even if the bar isn't empty.

Here is the other thing you have to remember OZ...there are many teams that won't play SJU, so SJU needs to look high and low for an opponent...SJU can also try to buy a game but that is not as easey as it sounds

[Hayden Fox]

Any word on who Hamline is going to pick for their open DC job?

How about Bethel?

[AO]

To echo the view points of others, this will never happen again...for a few reasons but the major being that times have changed and while back in the day there might not have been much difference between SJU and SCSU now with the scholarships that SCSU hands out and the fact that a game against them would not help when it comes to determining regional rankings...you might have a great crowd to watch it but it won't happen, much like an SJU-SCSU matchup on ice.

It wouldn't help the regional rankings (whereas playing Northwestern helps considerably), but I don't believe it would hurt the rankings as it wouldn't be a part of the in-region record and the committee hasn't punished teams for being 8-1 when compared to a  9-1 team.

Personally I don't mind playing Northwestern at home, going that stadium is less than desireable, there are high school facilities in the TC that are much better.

While there certainly are bigger high school stadiums in the cities, the Johnnie fan base certainly didn't come out in big enough numbers in their last trip to Reynolds field to require anymore seating as even with beautiful weather, it was the 2nd least attended game of the year at 1,285.  On the plus side of not being like a high school field, there is no track, moving everyone significantly closer to the action (I can't understand why St. John's didn't remove their track years ago once they figured out football was king).   Maybe it was the sound system you didn't like?  I did have it cranked pretty loud the last time the Johnnies came to town.    All that said, Northwestern is considering building a new stadium/fieldhouse.