FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[VOJ]

I know some Syracuse Alums that would embrace the move with the hopes it would revitalize the fb team.  I think Rutgers would jump at the chance, it would definitely help the football team and probably a lateral move for Mens BB and maybe even a step down for womens BB, leaving the same conf with UCONN.

I tend to agree re Rutgers.  I don't know many 'cuse fb fans.  What has more swing there - fb or bb?

I still think Pitt has the best fit.

Syracuse is a basketball school...Jimmy B is a legend, a move to the Big 10 would be a step down for the hoops team, no question about it, it might help the football team, they have not been a contender since early in the Pasqualoni days...

[retagent]

Geez, It's bad enough when I get smoked on the WIAC board. It really hurts when the home crowd turns against me.

[DustySJU]

I know some Syracuse Alums that would embrace the move with the hopes it would revitalize the fb team.  I think Rutgers would jump at the chance, it would definitely help the football team and probably a lateral move for Mens BB and maybe even a step down for womens BB, leaving the same conf with UCONN.

I tend to agree re Rutgers.  I don't know many 'cuse fb fans.  What has more swing there - fb or bb?

I still think Pitt has the best fit.

Syracuse is a basketball school...Jimmy B is a legend, a move to the Big 10 would be a step down for the hoops team, no question about it, it might help the football team, they have not been a contender since early in the Pasqualoni days...

I think if we're looking for mass appeal here why just stop at the midwest?  If The Big Ten is looking for more media exposure, attention, respect and hopefully better athletes The Big Ten should be a nation wide conference. 

Scoop up The University of Colorado, Boise State  and possibly another west coast school like UCLA and then add TCU in the south, Pitt & Rutgers in the east.

UCLA gets out from under the skin of USC, Boise & TCU gain national attention, Colorado starts fresh, Pitt & Rutgers gain the respect and attention from The Big Ten brand identification(who's got better recognition, The Big Ten or The Big East? IMO it's The Big Ten hands down).

As far as travel it shouldn't be much of a problem for a weekend sport like football and for basketball it would provide the opportunity to eliminate all the meaningless games these teams play in the pre-conference schedule. 

With a nation wide conference you create the environment for athletes(not so sure about the scholar aspect...) to cross the nation and still ocassionally play in front of their home town fans. 

I think it's also time for the NCAA to standardize academic requirements for athletes and quit pretending alot of these kids are actually able to do both.  Drop to minimal requirements "in-season" and alow students to earn a degree over six years.

Something to chew on.

Developing.....

[VOJ]

I know some Syracuse Alums that would embrace the move with the hopes it would revitalize the fb team.  I think Rutgers would jump at the chance, it would definitely help the football team and probably a lateral move for Mens BB and maybe even a step down for womens BB, leaving the same conf with UCONN.

I tend to agree re Rutgers.  I don't know many 'cuse fb fans.  What has more swing there - fb or bb?

I still think Pitt has the best fit.

Syracuse is a basketball school...Jimmy B is a legend, a move to the Big 10 would be a step down for the hoops team, no question about it, it might help the football team, they have not been a contender since early in the Pasqualoni days...

I think if we're looking for mass appeal here why just stop at the midwest?  If The Big Ten is looking for more media exposure, attention, respect and hopefully better athletes The Big Ten should be a nation wide conference. 

Scoop up The University of Colorado, Boise State  and possibly another west coast school like UCLA and then add TCU in the south, Pitt & Rutgers in the east.

UCLA gets out from under the skin of USC, Boise & TCU gain national attention, Colorado starts fresh, Pitt & Rutgers gain the respect and attention from The Big Ten brand identification(who's got better recognition, The Big Ten or The Big East? IMO it's The Big Ten hands down).

As far as travel it shouldn't be much of a problem for a weekend sport like football and for basketball it would provide the opportunity to eliminate all the meaningless games these teams play in the pre-conference schedule. 

With a nation wide conference you create the environment for athletes(not so sure about the scholar aspect...) to cross the nation and still ocassionally play in front of their home town fans. 

I think it's also time for the NCAA to standardize academic requirements for athletes and quit pretending alot of these kids are actually able to do both.  Drop to minimal requirements "in-season" and alow students to earn a degree over six years.

Something to chew on.

Developing.....

I think you were a little heavy on the Vodka in the bloody mary this morning...

[tmerton]

I know some Syracuse Alums that would embrace the move with the hopes it would revitalize the fb team.  I think Rutgers would jump at the chance, it would definitely help the football team and probably a lateral move for Mens BB and maybe even a step down for womens BB, leaving the same conf with UCONN.

I tend to agree re Rutgers.  I don't know many 'cuse fb fans.  What has more swing there - fb or bb?

I still think Pitt has the best fit.

Syracuse is a basketball school...Jimmy B is a legend, a move to the Big 10 would be a step down for the hoops team, no question about it, it might help the football team, they have not been a contender since early in the Pasqualoni days...

I think if we're looking for mass appeal here why just stop at the midwest?  If The Big Ten is looking for more media exposure, attention, respect and hopefully better athletes The Big Ten should be a nation wide conference. 

Scoop up The University of Colorado, Boise State  and possibly another west coast school like UCLA and then add TCU in the south, Pitt & Rutgers in the east.

UCLA gets out from under the skin of USC, Boise & TCU gain national attention, Colorado starts fresh, Pitt & Rutgers gain the respect and attention from The Big Ten brand identification(who's got better recognition, The Big Ten or The Big East? IMO it's The Big Ten hands down).

As far as travel it shouldn't be much of a problem for a weekend sport like football and for basketball it would provide the opportunity to eliminate all the meaningless games these teams play in the pre-conference schedule. 

With a nation wide conference you create the environment for athletes(not so sure about the scholar aspect...) to cross the nation and still ocassionally play in front of their home town fans. 

I think it's also time for the NCAA to standardize academic requirements for athletes and quit pretending alot of these kids are actually able to do both.  Drop to minimal requirements "in-season" and alow students to earn a degree over six years.

Something to chew on.

Developing.....

Definitely thinking outside the brain box there, Dusty.  8)

[tmerton]

Ha!  Only one vote for retagent in the poll.  If he's started to think again then we can assume it's his, but if the "No's" are right, then it isn't.

I'm for the No's.  Merry Christmas.

(Mean as heck, I know.)

I don't understand the poll or this post.   There's also no mention of hockey.

[DustySJU]

I know some Syracuse Alums that would embrace the move with the hopes it would revitalize the fb team.  I think Rutgers would jump at the chance, it would definitely help the football team and probably a lateral move for Mens BB and maybe even a step down for womens BB, leaving the same conf with UCONN.

I tend to agree re Rutgers.  I don't know many 'cuse fb fans.  What has more swing there - fb or bb?

I still think Pitt has the best fit.

Syracuse is a basketball school...Jimmy B is a legend, a move to the Big 10 would be a step down for the hoops team, no question about it, it might help the football team, they have not been a contender since early in the Pasqualoni days...

I think if we're looking for mass appeal here why just stop at the midwest?  If The Big Ten is looking for more media exposure, attention, respect and hopefully better athletes The Big Ten should be a nation wide conference.  

Scoop up The University of Colorado, Boise State  and possibly another west coast school like UCLA and then add TCU in the south, Pitt & Rutgers in the east.

UCLA gets out from under the skin of USC, Boise & TCU gain national attention, Colorado starts fresh, Pitt & Rutgers gain the respect and attention from The Big Ten brand identification(who's got better recognition, The Big Ten or The Big East? IMO it's The Big Ten hands down).

As far as travel it shouldn't be much of a problem for a weekend sport like football and for basketball it would provide the opportunity to eliminate all the meaningless games these teams play in the pre-conference schedule.  

With a nation wide conference you create the environment for athletes(not so sure about the scholar aspect...) to cross the nation and still ocassionally play in front of their home town fans.  

I think it's also time for the NCAA to standardize academic requirements for athletes and quit pretending alot of these kids are actually able to do both.  Drop to minimal requirements "in-season" and alow students to earn a degree over six years.

Something to chew on.

Developing.....

I think you were a little heavy on the Vodka in the bloody mary this morning...

Correct, however it was a pint of Surly Fury(in honor of Oz), a glass of cab( a solute to our resident foodie TDT) and an after dinner Drambuie( shall we say a nod to one of our more refined participants and his choice for a chilly morning pour of rose' at any number of post-season tailgating locale's, most of which are MIA the past few seasons).

With that I'll continue to "think outside the brain".  8)

[hazzben]

The Big 17 has a nice ring to it...

[sjusection105]

I think it's also time for the NCAA to standardize academic requirements for athletes and quit pretending alot of these kids are actually able to do both.  Drop to minimal requirements "in-season" and alow students to earn a degree over six years.

Or give them credits for independent music and film projects such as Royce White's latest You Tube Endeavor    

[PBR...]

I know some Syracuse Alums that would embrace the move with the hopes it would revitalize the fb team.  I think Rutgers would jump at the chance, it would definitely help the football team and probably a lateral move for Mens BB and maybe even a step down for womens BB, leaving the same conf with UCONN.

KS they would be my first choice along w/ mizzou. actually many long time psu fans know that SU was the longest psu rivalry. For those who think ND would lose money joining the big10? that is so far wrong its crazy. the bowl money split between schools and the amount of money being pulled in by the big ten channel has shown on paper the big10 schools are light years ahead of the deal ND has w/ nbc. in fact the ratings are so poor nbc wants to renegotiate the deal and comcast has been looking at putting the ND games on the versus channel.  nbc/comcast can put other things in those slots and make much more money. the nielsen ratings for ND are abysmal and they have gotten body slammed by competing games on other channels every weekend this year. The only people holding ND back are the big boosters who insist ND is still the best football school in the nation. the faculty and some admins are on record wanting to join the big 10 for the $$$ it would bring in research grants and upgraded facilities. The talk of nebraska joining is by several admin people there. Highly doubt pitt would be invited. they barely get 30K for a home game when counting the concession people in their attendance at there rented stadium at ketchup field. Plus their facilities are lacking although their med school is very good. Rutgers has the academics but would bring very little viewership in the nyc/nj metro area.  If one were to guess mizzou/ND would be the first choices and after that SU et al...would fall in line depending on the amount of teams the expansion would involve.

[VOJ]

I know some Syracuse Alums that would embrace the move with the hopes it would revitalize the fb team.  I think Rutgers would jump at the chance, it would definitely help the football team and probably a lateral move for Mens BB and maybe even a step down for womens BB, leaving the same conf with UCONN.

KS they would be my first choice along w/ mizzou. actually many long time psu fans know that SU was the longest psu rivalry. For those who think ND would lose money joining the big10? that is so far wrong its crazy. the bowl money split between schools and the amount of money being pulled in by the big ten channel has shown on paper the big10 schools are light years ahead of the deal ND has w/ nbc. in fact the ratings are so poor nbc wants to renegotiate the deal and comcast has been looking at putting the ND games on the versus channel.  nbc/comcast can put other things in those slots and make much more money. the nielsen ratings for ND are abysmal and they have gotten body slammed by competing games on other channels every weekend this year. The only people holding ND back are the big boosters who insist ND is still the best football school in the nation. the faculty and some admins are on record wanting to join the big 10 for the $$$ it would bring in research grants and upgraded facilities. The talk of nebraska joining is by several admin people there. Highly doubt pitt would be invited. they barely get 30K for a home game when counting the concession people in their attendance at there rented stadium at ketchup field. Plus their facilities are lacking although their med school is very good. Rutgers has the academics but would bring very little viewership in the nyc/nj metro area.  If one were to guess mizzou/ND would be the first choices and after that SU et al...would fall in line depending on the amount of teams the expansion would involve.

Dude love your handle...quality product there +K...adding Notre Dame in football would bring down the Big 10...I mean really when was the last time they were relevant in college football?  20 years ago?   I never want to hear "wake up the echoes" again, they are dead and buried no one under 40 has a clue what the hell they are talking about...

Ok back to the relevance that is the Stagg Bowl...

Whitewater 24

Mount Union 17

An instant classic in the making..if Rocco was 100% I would have made it UWW 24-21. 

[sjusection105]

Ok back to the relevance that is the Stagg Bowl...

Whitewater 24

Mount Union 17

An instant classic in the making..if Rocco was 100% I would have made it UWW 24-21. 

VOJ,

Lucky they put in turf at the stadium in Salem- Winter Storm Warning: They are going to get hammered,today,tonight and tomorrow:

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[hazzben]

KS they would be my first choice along w/ mizzou. actually many long time psu fans know that SU was the longest psu rivalry. For those who think ND would lose money joining the big10? that is so far wrong its crazy. the bowl money split between schools and the amount of money being pulled in by the big ten channel has shown on paper the big10 schools are light years ahead of the deal ND has w/ nbc. in fact the ratings are so poor nbc wants to renegotiate the deal and comcast has been looking at putting the ND games on the versus channel.  nbc/comcast can put other things in those slots and make much more money. the nielsen ratings for ND are abysmal and they have gotten body slammed by competing games on other channels every weekend this year. The only people holding ND back are the big boosters who insist ND is still the best football school in the nation. the faculty and some admins are on record wanting to join the big 10 for the $$$ it would bring in research grants and upgraded facilities. The talk of nebraska joining is by several admin people there. Highly doubt pitt would be invited. they barely get 30K for a home game when counting the concession people in their attendance at there rented stadium at ketchup field. Plus their facilities are lacking although their med school is very good. Rutgers has the academics but would bring very little viewership in the nyc/nj metro area.  If one were to guess mizzou/ND would be the first choices and after that SU et al...would fall in line depending on the amount of teams the expansion would involve.

I think you're off on Mizzou and how they feel about the situation. It's not enough for the Big 10 to want them, they have to reciprocate, and I just don't see that happening. Although I agree they would be the best fit after ND or Nebraska.

As for Nebraska, what administration people? Even bringing that up shows your ignorance of any and all things Nebraska. There is one administrative person who matters in Lincoln, the AD. Dr. Tom is as loyal to the Big 8 rivalries as you'll find and is keen on seeing Nebraska return to form, toe to toe against OU and UT. He has more say in this even than the chancellor, who would not go against Osborne's decision given his pull. Osborne's influence over Nebraska athletics is almost limitless and his popularity in the state is second to none. No way he's for changing to the Big 10 and no way that move happens without him on board. [of course, now that I've stated it all so boldly, watch as the opposite becomes reality in the upcoming months just to refute my hubris]

As to ND. I don't disagree about $$ from the Big 10. The problem is, ND is as proud as they come and they fully expect to return to form. And a return to form means they expect to be competing in BCS bowls year in and year out. If they aren't part of a conference, that payout is all theirs. If they're part of the Big 10 they are actually less likely to get those at large bids given the current criteria and then they have to share the proceeds. For the record, I think ND's best interest is joining the Big 10. From every angle, financially, academically and publicity (given that unless Kelly turns the ship fast NBC will likely be out) they would be better off and more stable as part of the conference, as recent years are revealing. The problem here is that ND doesn't realize this and is probably too proud to figure it out until it's too late.

[retagent]

Dude love your handle...quality product there +K...adding Notre Dame in football would bring down the Big 10...I mean really when was the last time they were relevant in college football?  20 years ago?   I never want to hear "wake up the echoes" again, they are dead and buried no one under 40 has a clue what the hell they are talking about...


VOJ - I thought (?) I was reading an WIACer post about SJU there.

[VOJ]

Dude love your handle...quality product there +K...adding Notre Dame in football would bring down the Big 10...I mean really when was the last time they were relevant in college football?  20 years ago?   I never want to hear "wake up the echoes" again, they are dead and buried no one under 40 has a clue what the hell they are talking about...


VOJ - I thought (?) I was reading an WIACer post about SJU there.

Here is the difference...a National Championship in 2003, Stagg Bowl appearance in 2000 and many runs to either the National Quarterfinals or National Semi-finals in this decade...oh and a few less head coaching hiring mistakes...