FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Thanks, carletonsid -- Fan assumptions aren't usually very accurate when it comes to the inner workings of an athletic department.

[hazzben]

On a related note....I also believe we have not seen the best game out of SJU for a reason.  John, Jimmy, Jerry, and Gary have most likely not brought out the "big guns" against the likes of Nwstrn and Augsburg as well as UWEC and even CC.  I've heard it many times that John doesn't like to show much on film.

That one turned out well for them!   

If they really held things back against a quality opponent like UWEC, and then lost, they are idiots. My guess is they aren't idiots and they did everything they could to win.

But hey, believe whatever makes you feel better going into Saturdays game. I'm sure they held back: Boyle was actually throwing passes with his off arm and the linebackers were told only to arm tackle in OT 

[WithasilentK]

I've got to believe that there is a way to record a live stream although I don't know if MIAC and other D3 teams would have software or technology to do it.

It's very simple & economical to record a live video stream or web-based video content. As long as streaming media is not protected by DRM (Digital Rights Management), it can be done legally. I've use WM Recorder. It can be purchased for as little as $50 - I have the suite for $79 that allows me to record, convert, capture and split video for editing in a bundled package. There are many other software packages that cost as little as $30 that can simply capture the video. Many have demo versions available to download and get a taste for what you can do. I'm sure there is other software costing a bit more, but these do the trick.

There in summation is why SJU games are not streamed.

On a related note....I also believe we have not seen the best game out of SJU for a reason.  John, Jimmy, Jerry, and Gary have most likely not brought out the "big guns" against the likes of Nwstrn and Augsburg as well as UWEC and even CC.  I've heard it many times that John doesn't like to show much on film.

Is this really relevant with the new digital video exchange system? My understanding is that basically every game is posted on the server for all coaches to access. I believe the one limiting factor is at the beginning of the season if your opponent has only played one game and you've played two, you only post one game on the server.

We used to record basketball games back when streaming first started. Then the basketball teams used this same digital server with every game posted to it, so there wasn't any reason to record them any more. I think now, in both football and basketball, there's so much footage that you could watch every game your opponent has played, if time allowed for it.

That's correct for MIAC games. I'm not sure if all the film is shared for playoff games, though, I don't think it really matters that much...

[Johnnie Red]

Tommie fans, you are cordially invited to the Stiftungsfestivities tailgate party Saturday morning. It is located in the parking lot above the scoreboard end of the field. We usually get going around 10:00 a.m., though a few of us are there by 8:00 a.m. Bring a culinary delight to share if you like.

[DuffMan]

I'm not sure if all the film is shared for playoff games, though, I don't think it really matters that much...

Yeah, it doesn't matter if you never make the playoffs 

[retagent]

The point is, the "Playbook" was probably not as extensive that early in the season. That means that some of the plays that might be in the "Bag-O-Tricks" might not have been there for them to execute. That is probably true of many teams. Unfortunately, but let's not show our ignorance by making idiotic comments.

Not mentioning any names (hazzben)

[GoldandBlueBU]

I will admit that I check out ray grant's twitter feed from time to time for the entertainment value, and had to share this tweet of his...


".@Nickalie19 Yeah, so I'm down with the UFL or going to Europe for 2-3 years. No longer. Put up some numbers, film and come back to the NFL."


Apparently receivers that can't put up a single stat at the D3 level are highly sought after for the NFL?

[AlmostEx]

Re. Limited Play Book.

I have no problem believing that some coaches/coaching staff actually do think in terms of limited play books.  I find it to be idiotic at any level.  In the case of UWEC the SJU offensive play book was so stripped down, it was comical; I do not recall any, if many quick slant passes, passes over the middle, screens, etc.  I think this had less to do with hiding the play book than it did with a game plan that was all ball control, ball control, ball control.

Problem is, and this is where it is comical, 55 minutes into the game, if you are tied or behind on the score board, suddenly you ask your offense to go from 5 MPH to 55 MPH.  Coaches at every level expect them to make that up-shift, yet constantly ignore a game plan of 55 MPH from minute one, or maybe something in-between, say 30 MPH – enough to keep the defense honest.  In general UWEC was a coaching loss – sure there were execution errors and an interception in the endzone that ends up on the three yard line – but it was the game plan that failed.

If would refreshing to hear this legendary coaching staff occasionally admit that they blew it – it wasn't the student athletes – as in Hamline 2009, snowy, cold day, game in hand, the starting QB is still in the game and gets an injury that turned what might have been a magical seasonal into another early playoff exit.

[tommiegun]

I will admit that I check out ray grant's twitter feed from time to time for the entertainment value, and had to share this tweet of his...


".@Nickalie19 Yeah, so I'm down with the UFL or going to Europe for 2-3 years. No longer. Put up some numbers, film and come back to the NFL."


Apparently receivers that can't put up a single stat at the D3 level are highly sought after for the NFL?

Yes. That is the case. Obviously. Oh, was this one of those rhetorical ques...

[USTBench]

I will admit that I check out ray grant's twitter feed from time to time for the entertainment value, and had to share this tweet of his...


".@Nickalie19 Yeah, so I'm down with the UFL or going to Europe for 2-3 years. No longer. Put up some numbers, film and come back to the NFL."


Apparently receivers that can't put up a single stat at the D3 level are highly sought after for the NFL?

If that's the case then what I'm doing in this boring law office?

[Purebred Johnnie]

Everyone please check out JohnnieFootball.com for game-day travel information for this weekend's Johnnie/Tommie Homecoming game.

Also up is my new post for the week titled "Such is Life"-- predicting SJU 24, UST 23...any thoughts?

[Purebred Johnnie]

Failed to mention that the game-day information is compliments GoJohnnies.com

[hazzben]

The point is, the "Playbook" was probably not as extensive that early in the season. That means that some of the plays that might be in the "Bag-O-Tricks" might not have been there for them to execute. That is probably true of many teams. Unfortunately, but let's not show our ignorance by making idiotic comments.

Not mentioning any names (hazzben)

Thanks for clarifying the point of another person's post. Maybe I was wrong, but Faunch sure seemed to imply that the coaches had intentionally held back against lesser opponents to ensure that UST had less to work from on film.

On a related note....I also believe we have not seen the best game out of SJU for a reason.  John, Jimmy, Jerry, and Gary have most likely not brought out the "big guns" against the likes of Nwstrn and Augsburg as well as UWEC and even CC.  I've heard it many times that John doesn't like to show much on film.

The last comment in particular seems to indicate that some feel the coaches held back against these opponents in order to have something sneaky saved up for UST. No doubt that may have been the case in the blowouts, and likely was. But if you really expect me to think that in the 4th quarter and OT against UWEC the coaches had some great plays in hand and chose not to use them for the sake of keeping them off film, you're crazy.

No doubt teams add wrinkles as the season goes on. I just don't think that was the original argument. (Sometimes a team might even use a certain play just to make sure teams have to gameplan for it in the future, as Bethel did with a fake punt against Carleton)

Now, I may have been mistaken (and if I was then shame on me), but it sure read to me like it was an argument that the coaches were playing things close to the vest (i.e. not calling their best plays) in those games so as to keep things off of film. "For a reason" seemed to imply that he thought the coaches were being sneaky, not that they just hadn't installed enough of the offense. If they didn't have the plays installed yet, there is no point in arguing they were trying to keep them off of film as they would have been unavailable. If they had the plays in the playbook, but as yet had intentionally not installed them so they wouldn't be tempted to use them or give them away yet, then they got their bluff called by UWEC and came up short.

And just for clarity. I wasn't calling the SJU coaches idiots in the original post. I just don't buy that they were not calling great plays late in the game against UWEC just so UST wouldn't know of them yet. But I will agree that SJU is probably an improved team since that point. At least they'd better be or Saturday might prove to be an awfully long afternoon.

On a side note retagent, what are the essentials of your football philosophy/coaching bona fides? In accusing me of fb ignorance, I'd love to hear why you're the expert...

[tmerton]

I think AlmostEx has a pretty good read on the UWEC game.  It sure looked like the idea was to control the ball running between the tackles, which unfortunately did not consistently yield first downs.  In the second half one got the sense that they decided to try get away with a 10-3 win.  In doing so, though, the defense was left to carry the load and eventually was left on the field too long.

[tmerton]

... what I'm doing in this boring law office?

A question asked incessantly by innumerable lawyers.  Get used to it.