FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[stanbob]

Apparently the Sports Editor over at the Star Tribune reads MIACPP, because they did pick up the news wire story on the Bethel-Wheaton game. The Tommies still received over twice the coverage as Bethel and last time I checked they are both playing on Dec. 4 in the Regional Final.That being said, the High School 4A champions,Totino-Grace, received more coverage than both Division III games combined.

Bethel SHOULD get equal coverage next Sunday though.

[CrashDavisD3]

Apparently the Sports Editor over at the Star Tribune reads MIACPP, because they did pick up the news wire story on the Bethel-Wheaton game. The Tommies still received over twice the coverage as Bethel and last time I checked they are both playing on Dec. 4 in the Regional Final.That being said, the High School 4A champions,Totino-Grace, received more coverage than both Division III games combined.

It is indeed sad how little coverage DIII sports get in the media...BUT the bottom line in all media is number or readers/viewers of the articles. Most viewers that a story attracts get more coverage...DIII sports has a small loyal following but does not have the numbers that other sports at other levels get....so less space is devoted to their articles.

[cawcdad]

Photos from yesterday's UST - Linfield game have been posted: http://www.pictureprints.net/albums.php?gallery=3663

[stanbob]

Apparently the Sports Editor over at the Star Tribune reads MIACPP, because they did pick up the news wire story on the Bethel-Wheaton game. The Tommies still received over twice the coverage as Bethel and last time I checked they are both playing on Dec. 4 in the Regional Final.That being said, the High School 4A champions,Totino-Grace, received more coverage than both Division III games combined.

It is indeed sad how little coverage DIII sports get in the media...BUT the bottom line in all media is number or readers/viewers of the articles. Most viewers that a story attracts get more coverage...DIII sports has a small loyal following but does not have the numbers that other sports at other levels get....so less space is devoted to their articles.

The point here is that both schools (bethel and ust(D) ) are both Twin Cities schools and the past two weeks coverage has gone overwhelmingly to ust(D).

[Freebird]

Apparently the Sports Editor over at the Star Tribune reads MIACPP, because they did pick up the news wire story on the Bethel-Wheaton game. The Tommies still received over twice the coverage as Bethel and last time I checked they are both playing on Dec. 4 in the Regional Final.That being said, the High School 4A champions,Totino-Grace, received more coverage than both Division III games combined.

It is indeed sad how little coverage DIII sports get in the media...BUT the bottom line in all media is number or readers/viewers of the articles. Most viewers that a story attracts get more coverage...DIII sports has a small loyal following but does not have the numbers that other sports at other levels get....so less space is devoted to their articles.

The point here is that both schools (bethel and ust(D) ) are both Twin Cities schools and the past two weeks coverage has gone overwhelmingly to ust(D).

So is that due to them being higher ranked, miac champs, and undefeated or because the editors generally view USTd as more of an interest to their readers? Larger school, more wealthy, more alums, etc.

[sjusection105]

Apparently the Sports Editor over at the Star Tribune reads MIACPP, because they did pick up the news wire story on the Bethel-Wheaton game. The Tommies still received over twice the coverage as Bethel and last time I checked they are both playing on Dec. 4 in the Regional Final.That being said, the High School 4A champions,Totino-Grace, received more coverage than both Division III games combined.

It is indeed sad how little coverage DIII sports get in the media...BUT the bottom line in all media is number or readers/viewers of the articles. Most viewers that a story attracts get more coverage...DIII sports has a small loyal following but does not have the numbers that other sports at other levels get....so less space is devoted to their articles.

The point here is that both schools (bethel and ust(D) ) are both Twin Cities schools and the past two weeks coverage has gone overwhelmingly to ust(D).

So is that due to them being higher ranked, miac champs, and undefeated or because the editors generally view USTd as more of an interest to their readers? Larger school, more wealthy, more alums, etc.

Don't forget...state of the art locker-rooms 

[stanbob]

Apparently the Sports Editor over at the Star Tribune reads MIACPP, because they did pick up the news wire story on the Bethel-Wheaton game. The Tommies still received over twice the coverage as Bethel and last time I checked they are both playing on Dec. 4 in the Regional Final.That being said, the High School 4A champions,Totino-Grace, received more coverage than both Division III games combined.

It is indeed sad how little coverage DIII sports get in the media...BUT the bottom line in all media is number or readers/viewers of the articles. Most viewers that a story attracts get more coverage...DIII sports has a small loyal following but does not have the numbers that other sports at other levels get....so less space is devoted to their articles.

The point here is that both schools (bethel and ust(D) ) are both Twin Cities schools and the past two weeks coverage has gone overwhelmingly to ust(D).

So is that due to them being higher ranked, miac champs, and undefeated or because the editors generally view USTd as more of an interest to their readers? Larger school, more wealthy, more alums, etc.

Don't forget...state of the art locker-rooms 

The way Pat sounds though the press box is severely lacking, that should take away a couple of paragraphs.    

[Scrubby]

I remember 3 years ago when BU was the top gun in the MIAC, they got equal coverage to what UST is getting now. As a BU supporter, I'm o.k. with that.  BU isn't a program that worries a lot about awards and coverage (they don't even have team awards).  I'm sure both programs will get their dues during the week and hopefully good coverage on Saturday, both for the kids and their University's (MIAC as well)

It is good however to see 2 MIAC schools still alive.  I hope the 2nd tilt is as good as the 1st! 

[sfury]

With the coverage, there's no anti-Evangelical/pro-Tommie thing going on. Obviously it's about geography. Bethel's on the road, the Tommies are at home. Newspaper budgets being what they are these days, the Strib isn't going to hire a stringer to cover the Bethel game. So instead they have to focus on what comes on the AP wire (which doesn't mean it's written by a real AP person or anything; other newspapers are AP partners and contribute). Sometimes those wire stories might include a quote or two, often not. The Duluth-SCSU game was also news wire but had a quote. So the Tommies get the most coverage. If the roles were reversed and the Tommies were on the road, Bethel would get more coverage.

With the high schools, prep sports are just much more popular than D3 sports in the state. yesterday's Prep Bowl drew 9,700 and for two days more than 26,000, with tens of thousands more watching on TV. The Tommies drew 1,500. Yes, the post-Thanksgiving crowds are always smaller, even at SJU, but it's not like they would have drawn 6,000, even if school was in session.

That's another reason SJU football is so fortunate. While the Cities schools have to compete with every other team in the area for coverage, the Johnnies have a full-time beat reporter and, with the radio and occasional national stories they get, receive more coverage than probably any D3 program, regardless of sport, in the country (although I'm sure kenyonswimming.com is a big hit among fans).

And, of course, in my unbiased view, the coverage is well-deserved.

[repete]

Sfury nails it. Remember, too, that UMD is the No. 1 team in d2 and there's a pretty compelling storyline with SCSU. Add that to all of the prep football, which is a huge focus/draw focus for a paper like the Strib, plus Gopher hockey, Wild, Wolves and the Floyd of R game ... and it's a schedule that would stretch all but the biggest of newspaper staffs.

No way they were going to send somebody to Wheaton. If they sent someone else on the road it would have been to UMD. While they could have hired stringers for BU and UMD, I'm guessing that -- despite the infinite internet space -- they were probably running out of space in the paper. 

Hard to fault the Strib decisions on any level.

[Freebird]

With the coverage, there's no anti-Evangelical/pro-Tommie thing going on. Obviously it's about geography. Bethel's on the road, the Tommies are at home. Newspaper budgets being what they are these days, the Strib isn't going to hire a stringer to cover the Bethel game. So instead they have to focus on what comes on the AP wire (which doesn't mean it's written by a real AP person or anything; other newspapers are AP partners and contribute). Sometimes those wire stories might include a quote or two, often not. The Duluth-SCSU game was also news wire but had a quote. So the Tommies get the most coverage. If the roles were reversed and the Tommies were on the road, Bethel would get more coverage.

With the high schools, prep sports are just much more popular than D3 sports in the state. yesterday's Prep Bowl drew 9,700 and for two days more than 26,000, with tens of thousands more watching on TV. The Tommies drew 1,500. Yes, the post-Thanksgiving crowds are always smaller, even at SJU, but it's not like they would have drawn 6,000, even if school was in session.

That's another reason SJU football is so fortunate. While the Cities schools have to compete with every other team in the area for coverage, the Johnnies have a full-time beat reporter and, with the radio and occasional national stories they get, receive more coverage than probably any D3 program, regardless of sport, in the country (although I'm sure kenyonswimming.com is a big hit among fans).

And, of course, in my unbiased view, the coverage is well-deserved.

Who said anything about it being a Protestant vs Catholic issue? You definitely make a great point about travel costs and interest level. However leading off by bringing religion into seems unnecessary and misleading.

[OzJohnnie]

With the coverage, there's no anti-Evangelical/pro-Tommie thing going on. Obviously it's about geography. Bethel's on the road, the Tommies are at home. Newspaper budgets being what they are these days, the Strib isn't going to hire a stringer to cover the Bethel game. So instead they have to focus on what comes on the AP wire (which doesn't mean it's written by a real AP person or anything; other newspapers are AP partners and contribute). Sometimes those wire stories might include a quote or two, often not. The Duluth-SCSU game was also news wire but had a quote. So the Tommies get the most coverage. If the roles were reversed and the Tommies were on the road, Bethel would get more coverage.

With the high schools, prep sports are just much more popular than D3 sports in the state. yesterday's Prep Bowl drew 9,700 and for two days more than 26,000, with tens of thousands more watching on TV. The Tommies drew 1,500. Yes, the post-Thanksgiving crowds are always smaller, even at SJU, but it's not like they would have drawn 6,000, even if school was in session.

That's another reason SJU football is so fortunate. While the Cities schools have to compete with every other team in the area for coverage, the Johnnies have a full-time beat reporter and, with the radio and occasional national stories they get, receive more coverage than probably any D3 program, regardless of sport, in the country (although I'm sure kenyonswimming.com is a big hit among fans).

And, of course, in my unbiased view, the coverage is well-deserved.

Who said anything about it being a Protestant vs Catholic issue? You definitely make a great point about travel costs and interest level. However leading off by bringing religion into seems unnecessary and misleading.

A Protestant would say that.

[Freebird]

Sounds like somebody has a case of the Mondays Oz   

So who will you cheer for mildly hope wins on Saturday? Your Catholic buddies over at USTd or the fine young men of the Bethel University Royals?   

[sfury]

Bird, it was a throwaway line, not any type of commentary on the: Reformation/Inquisition/Baptists/dancing/priest scandal/Mary/ascension/proper use of condoms or any other religious thing. I'm a fundamentalist when it comes to the religion that is SJU football but agnostic with the real thing. And, yes, this week I'm pulling for the fine young men at Bethel.

By the way, a classic rock station in NYC is playing the top 1,043 songs of all time. Freebird just came in at, I think, No. 9. Just played No. 4: Layla. So nervous waiting for the top one.

[Freebird]

Bird, it was a throwaway line, not any type of commentary on the: Reformation/Inquisition/Baptists/dancing/priest scandal/Mary/ascension/proper use of condoms or any other religious thing. I'm a fundamentalist when it comes to the religion that is SJU football but agnostic with the real thing. And, yes, this week I'm pulling for the fine young men at Bethel.

By the way, a classic rock station in NYC is playing the top 1,043 songs of all time. Freebird just came in at, I think, No. 9. Just played No. 4: Layla. So nervous waiting for the top one.

Ok fair point and again I think your assessment of the coverage was spot on.

Please keep me updated on who is #1. A Beatles song perhaps? Or Stairway to Heaven?