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OzJohnnie

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Quote from: wartknight on December 21, 2010, 10:44:46 AM
Being a Knight fan, bummer about the DQ... I am not sure on the move to #2, the Johns were upset by Olivet. While not against the same competition, the Knights sent a 2nd team to the duals that went 4-0!!

In support of my argument: The Johnnies have beat numbers 1, 2 and 3 in the last two weeks.

Against my argument: The Knights second team went undefeated on the same weekend against someone.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...

As to losing to Olivet... The impact of that loss is that Wartburg stays number one?
  

warthog

Unlike some of my orange clothed brethren, I believe the Johnnies become and deserve to become the #1 rated D3 wrestling team.
I don't know if our hwt. thought he was Andra the Giant or Hacksaw Jim Reynolds.  It doesn't make any difference.  A loss is a loss and the rankings deserve to be shaken up.
BE ORANGE

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DuffMan

Quote from: warthog on December 21, 2010, 01:08:37 PM
Unlike some of my orange clothed brethren, I believe the Johnnies become and deserve to become the #1 rated D3 wrestling team.

I think they'll move up, but I am not sure #1 is warranted.  The Johnnie/Knight matchup was tied at 15 going into the HWT match, and Wartburg likely would have won that match, being that the Knight wrestler is the top-ranked HWT in the nation.  SJU did win the match, but I think it deserves an asterisk.  Beating #3 Coe should lend some credence to their cause.  Losing to #27 Olivet doesn't help them, but it was their third consecutive dual with no break, so guys were likely worn down.

Regardless, it places them amongst the best teams in the nation, which is a feat in itself, and says a lot about the state of wrestling in MN!

D1 - U of MN #3
D2 - St. Cloud State #2, MN State Mankato #6
D3 - Saint John's #5 (and climbing), Augsburg #6, Concordia #7

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

WashedUp

Quote from: DuffMan on December 21, 2010, 02:37:05 PM
Quote from: warthog on December 21, 2010, 01:08:37 PM
Unlike some of my orange clothed brethren, I believe the Johnnies become and deserve to become the #1 rated D3 wrestling team.

I think they'll move up, but I am not sure #1 is warranted.  The Johnnie/Knight matchup was tied at 15 going into the HWT match, and Wartburg likely would have won that match, being that the Knight wrestler is the top-ranked HWT in the nation.  SJU did win the match, but I think it deserves an asterisk.  Beating #3 Coe should lend some credence to their cause.  Losing to #27 Olivet doesn't help them, but it was their third consecutive dual with no break, so guys were likely worn down.

Regardless, it places them amongst the best teams in the nation, which is a feat in itself, and says a lot about the state of wrestling in MN!

D1 - U of MN #3
D2 - St. Cloud State #2, MN State Mankato #6
D3 - Saint John's #5 (and climbing), Augsburg #6, Concordia #7

I think Apple Valley is ranked #1 nationally for high school this year, too.
MIAC Champions: 1924, 1992

DuffMan

Quote from: WashedUp on December 21, 2010, 03:21:15 PM
I think Apple Valley is ranked #1 nationally for high school this year, too.

True enough.  And Simley is #9.

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

SUMMIT!!!!!

sounds like Olaf is the only MN college wrestling team not ranked nationally....or does Moorhead have a team yet, too?

no need to bring up nordic ski..I think USJ and GAC are the only schools with that

hows the chess team doing?

did I leave any winter sports out? Oh yeah... hockey and hoops.....but USJ had been dominated in both of them for a while

After the game, the king and pawn go into the same box.

Italian proverb

OzJohnnie

Quote from: miacmaniac on December 21, 2010, 04:14:13 PM
hows the chess team doing?

Ha.  Tough guy.  You should ask some wrestlers that question.
  

SUMMIT!!!!!

Quote from: OzJohnnie on December 21, 2010, 04:21:41 PM
Quote from: miacmaniac on December 21, 2010, 04:14:13 PM
hows the chess team doing?

Ha.  Tough guy.  You should ask some wrestlers that question.
was meant tongue in cheek Oz...Im still POed that UST dropped wrestling, even though I've never wrestled.

John may have met his equal in the quip/one-liner deprartment:

http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/rick-reilly-go-fish/post/_/id/756/will-somebody-please-hire-coach-bob-green

After the game, the king and pawn go into the same box.

Italian proverb

OzJohnnie

Quote from: miacmaniac on December 21, 2010, 04:41:05 PM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on December 21, 2010, 04:21:41 PM
Quote from: miacmaniac on December 21, 2010, 04:14:13 PM
hows the chess team doing?

Ha.  Tough guy.  You should ask some wrestlers that question.
was meant tongue in cheek Oz...Im still POed that UST dropped wrestling, even though I've never wrestled.

John may have met his equal in the quip/one-liner deprartment:

http://sports.espn.go.com/blog/rick-reilly-go-fish/post/_/id/756/will-somebody-please-hire-coach-bob-green

Yah, I know.  I'm just not as effective on the tongue in cheek rejoinder as others.

He's got a few tickled the funny bone...

* After a close loss ... "It's kinda like watching your mother in law go off a cliff in your brand new Cadillac. You got mixed feelings."

* "The way I describe him is he looks like Jane but plays like Tarzan."

* I'm a perfectionist. I expect Jennifer Lopez to know how to cook."
  

Retired Old Rat

   
National Champions: 1963, 1965, 1976, 2003

DuffMan


A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03

wartknight

Quote from: OzJohnnie on December 21, 2010, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: wartknight on December 21, 2010, 10:44:46 AM
Being a Knight fan, bummer about the DQ... I am not sure on the move to #2, the Johns were upset by Olivet. duals that went 4-0!!

In support of my argument: The Johnnies have beat numbers 1, 2 and 3 in the last two weeks.

Against my argument: The Knights second team went undefeated on the same weekend against someone.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...

As to losing to Olivet... The impact of that loss is that Wartburg stays number one?
I don't think the Knights will or deserve to be #1. I meant that with the loss to Olivet, the Johns may not move to #2. Do I think they deserve at least the #2 ranking? Probably
"Talent is God given. Be humble. Fame is man-given. Be grateful. Conceit is self-given. Be careful." John Wooden

OzJohnnie

Quote from: wartknight on December 22, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on December 21, 2010, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: wartknight on December 21, 2010, 10:44:46 AM
Being a Knight fan, bummer about the DQ... I am not sure on the move to #2, the Johns were upset by Olivet. duals that went 4-0!!

In support of my argument: The Johnnies have beat numbers 1, 2 and 3 in the last two weeks.

Against my argument: The Knights second team went undefeated on the same weekend against someone.

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt...

As to losing to Olivet... The impact of that loss is that Wartburg stays number one?
I don't think the Knights will or deserve to be #1. I meant that with the loss to Olivet, the Johns may not move to #2. Do I think they deserve at least the #2 ranking? Probably

There, we both get some love.  Wartburg stays at #1 and the Johnnies move to #2.
  

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