FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[hazzben]

Another issue I have with people crying over passing when up by a large margin (and I am really pi$$ed that so many Johnnies are doing this).  You still have to let your team play situational football.  If you expect a team to run dive 3 times then punt, would you be upset if they took three knees and then punted, or better yet, punt on second or third down? If your 2nds/3rds/4ths..are in and facing a 3rd and 15, is it "running it up" to attempt to get a first down by passing?  NO WAY!

Bingo.

Personally, I'd be more pissed if a team obviously called off the dogs out of pity. I'd rather have a team up big throwing it on 3rd and 15 than downing the ball. That's just a slap in the face. I played to compete and I wanted to do it to the bitter end. When you think about how short a college career really is, I'd take legitimate football on the wrong end of a blowout over losing a quarter and a half that I can't ever get back because a team was worried they'd hurt my feelings. My 2¢.

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

MIAC Mens golf championship results:
http://www.miac-online.org/custompages/2011mgolf/xlive.htm

Yes, I fainted the first three times I looked at the results!

The only SJU program currently holding an MIAC title is the outdoor track & field program. Remember the fall of 2006 when the Johnnies became the first and only team to win all 4 MIAC fall sports titles? Dark days in Collegeville. When is the administration going to wise up and let John and Bob Alpers go? I'd also like to see them rehire former hockey coach John Harrington only to fire him moments after for previously leaving Collegeville.

Let Alpers go?? PLEASE tell me that was satire that fell far short of the mark. He has built one of the premier programs in the nation, and despite the soft showing at the MIAC Championships, its a a safe bet that his squad will be in the thick of contention at the NCAAs in May. Not just in 2012, but most years for the next decade or more.

As far as letting Gagliardi go, I defer to sfury et al who have done an excellent job rebutting such an outlandish idea.

[Retired Old Rat]

#sarcasm

[sfury]

Well there's nothing left in the season but shameless plugs so here we go. As linked on the award-winning Randball today...

http://tvfury.wordpress.com/2011/10/03/sju-and-its-fans-melt-down/

A few folks on the board have seen this already and I exchanged some really interesting, thoughtful emails. There are points of disagreement or debate and if you want, feel free to email me. Even in a down season, I'll write 500 word emails three times a day about Johnnies and MIAC football. cheers.

[OzJohnnie]

Actually, I think that the question to ponder is on what basis are the coaches looking to pick the QB?  We bander around all sorts of things like platooning doesn't work and the arm strength of one is better than the other, but none of our comments would be new thoughts to the coaches. So can anyone surmise the criteria they are using to judge the appropriate QB?  Can anyone make us all a bit smarter?

    Eeny, meeny, miny, moe,
    Catch a Johnnie by the toe.

Not quite the answer I was looking for.  I'm serious.  Rather than flailing the coaches I was wondering what they are actually considering, knowing that they know more than we do and have better information.  Considering that, are they looking beyond talent or skill questions and into intangibles like leadership and chemistry, for example?  I'm pretty sure that the answer is something other than nursery rhymes or sudden insanity syndrome.  Many of the great quarterbacks in Johnnie history were ordinary guys going extraordinary things.  So, what makes for the extraordinary?

[218Tommie]

I think Oz, it could be a lack of leadership among the older players. I personally have been on a few hockey and football teams that lacked leadership which resulted in sub-par seasons and those older guys lacked the hunger necessary to compete. I could be wrong since I know a few of those seniors have been around for a few years. Just one of my thoughts. Hopefully the Johnnies turn it around in a few years, the games are so much better when they're close and it makes the MIAC look better as well.

[faunch]

So how many Johnnie fans out there got "What happened" by friends and co-workers the past couple of days? 

[faunch]

Actually, I think that the question to ponder is on what basis are the coaches looking to pick the QB?  We bander around all sorts of things like platooning doesn't work and the arm strength of one is better than the other, but none of our comments would be new thoughts to the coaches. So can anyone surmise the criteria they are using to judge the appropriate QB?  Can anyone make us all a bit smarter?

    Eeny, meeny, miny, moe,
    Catch a Johnnie by the toe.

Not quite the answer I was looking for.  I'm serious.  Rather than flailing the coaches I was wondering what they are actually considering, knowing that they know more than we do and have better information.  Considering that, are they looking beyond talent or skill questions and into intangibles like leadership and chemistry, for example?  I'm pretty sure that the answer is something other than nursery rhymes or sudden insanity syndrome.  Many of the great quarterbacks in Johnnie history were ordinary guys going extraordinary things.  So, what makes for the extraordinary?

Just trying to have a sense of humor during these "dark days."  I really have no idea what criteria is being used.  It would probably help if they had little bit better o-line.  Hard to be a good quarterback when you spend half the game running for your life. The Johnnies have given up 22 sacks this year and collected just 8....wow!
I know this sounds simplistic but I think they just need better players and leadership from one or two guys on the field.  Last year it was clearly Boyle and Stanton that led the team.  This year there is no set QB and about a dozen new guys on defense.   

[Retired Old Rat]

So how many Johnnie fans out there got "What happened" by friends and co-workers the past couple of days?

A few thought the newspaper had incorrectly reported the score.

When I lived out of state and before we all had cell phones and the internet to get real time information my only source for scores was the local newspaper.  Had I seen this score in the Sunday Denver Post or the Seattle Times I'd have thought it surely was a misprint.

[faunch]

From Charley Walters column:

http://www.twincities.com/gophers/ci_19021239

"It shouldn't be long after the season that St. Thomas coach Glenn Caruso begins getting coaching offers, maybe from the Ivy League."


So Caruso takes the Cornell job next year (mostly because he's a huge fan of Andy on The Office).  UST steals Ramler away from Carleton and SJU.  Thoughts???

[sfury]

So how many Johnnie fans out there got "What happened" by friends and co-workers the past couple of days?

A few thought the newspaper had incorrectly reported the score.

When I lived out of state and before we all had cell phones and the internet to get real time information my only source for scores was the local newspaper.  Had I seen this score in the Sunday Denver Post or the Seattle Times I'd have thought is surely was a misprint.

Like back in the day when I'd have to wait two days to find out if the Lakers won because the boxscores never showed up in the papers we got at home. In southern Minnesota, Channel 12 was infamous for always having wrong scores, so you were never sure whether to believe it.

"Wait, did Janesville really beat Waterville 35-7, because they haven't beaten them in 23 years. That'd be weird." The paper would confirm the error the next day.

I live right by the Columbia field and go to their home games. They are winless this season and are always a .500 at best team. Could be in the market for a coach. They're actually coached by an old Gopher, Norries Wilson. He's done a pretty good job there but this season looks like a struggle. Although if you come coach at Columbia in NYC, you're going to be about the 989th most important sport, a few places ahead of Fordham swimming but behind Manhattan field hockey.

[Pat Coleman]

From Charley Walters column:

http://www.twincities.com/gophers/ci_19021239

"It shouldn't be long after the season that St. Thomas coach Glenn Caruso begins getting coaching offers, maybe from the Ivy League."


So Caruso takes the Cornell job next year (mostly because he's a huge fan of Andy on The Office).  UST steals Ramler away from Carleton and SJU.  Thoughts???

Next time you pitch Cornell, makes more sense to say it's because Caruso went to Ithaca.

[WashedUp]

From Charley Walters column:

http://www.twincities.com/gophers/ci_19021239

"It shouldn't be long after the season that St. Thomas coach Glenn Caruso begins getting coaching offers, maybe from the Ivy League."


So Caruso takes the Cornell job next year (mostly because he's a huge fan of Andy on The Office).  UST steals Ramler away from Carleton and SJU.  Thoughts???

It wouldn't surprise me if Ramler left Carleton, but it would surprise me if he went to UST.  I'm not as close to the situation as a was a couple years ago, but I can't picture him in purple.

[faunch]

From Charley Walters column:

http://www.twincities.com/gophers/ci_19021239

"It shouldn't be long after the season that St. Thomas coach Glenn Caruso begins getting coaching offers, maybe from the Ivy League."


So Caruso takes the Cornell job next year (mostly because he's a huge fan of Andy on The Office).  UST steals Ramler away from Carleton and SJU.  Thoughts???

Next time you pitch Cornell, makes more sense to say it's because Caruso went to Ithaca.

I actually knew that...my bad.  Truth is I've heard he doesn't like it back east.  I think Charley is just guessing here....makes things fun for us though. 

Also...Columbia has 2 Cretin kids on the team...so there's another link to Coach C and St. Paul. 

[Pat Coleman]

D-III to Ivy League is a logical step, although there haven't been any to make that coaching leap in some time now.