FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DuffMan]

I remember our last game of the 2002 season we were all on the practice field on a Thursday after giving up 700 yards of offense to SJU the weekend before.

Your defense looked as if it had never seen a shovel pass before    It was quite fun.

[USTBench]

I remember our last game of the 2002 season we were all on the practice field on a Thursday after giving up 700 yards of offense to SJU the weekend before.

Your defense looked as if it had never seen a shovel pass before    It was quite fun.

The saddest part about that SJU game is, we tried to gain a competitive advantage by taking a bus in rush hour to Wayzata HS to practice on spin turf/field turf (whatever the hell it's called). Took about an 1.5 hours to get there, I remember missing a lot of good syndicated TV shows so we could have that practice.

I also blame myself, as the best of the louisiest I was often tasked with the job of emulating the opposition's best player. Unfortunately for our defense, I was the closest we had to Blake Elliot on the scout team, so, they had that working against them. It also took about two seconds for me to get a piece of that black rubber/fiber glass in my eyeball, so I spent much of that practice fiddling with a contact lens.

I also heard the sun was in their eyes for much of the game. 

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

I remember our last game of the 2002 season we were all on the practice field on a Thursday after giving up 700 yards of offense to SJU the weekend before.

Your defense looked as if it had never seen a shovel pass before    It was quite fun.

The saddest part about that SJU game is, we tried to gain a competitive advantage by taking a bus in rush hour to Wayzata HS to practice on spin turf/field turf (whatever the hell it's called). Took about an 1.5 hours to get there, I remember missing a lot of good syndicated TV shows so we could have that practice.

I also blame myself, as the best of the louisiest I was often tasked with the job of emulating the opposition's best player. Unfortunately for our defense, I was the closest we had to Blake Elliot on the scout team, so, they had that working against them. It also took about two seconds for me to get a piece of that black rubber/fiber glass in my eyeball, so I spent much of that practice fiddling with a contact lens.

I also heard the sun was in their eyes for much of the game.

BOTH halves, I am sure 

[Chubbs]

A very Roneyesque dilemma.

I remember our last game of the 2002 season we were all on the practice field on a Thursday after giving up 700 yards of offense to SJU the weekend before. At the time we were 5 - 4, and Roney gathered us all around and morosely asked "5 - 5?" And bunch of guys rabbled a negative guffaw. Then he said "6 - 4" which resulted in a positive "hey!" And then "5 - 5?" NAHHH! "6 - 4?" Heeyyy! That was our pep talk before the season ending MIAC Dome Day.

We lost to Concordia 63 to 21.

Now that's hilarious.  You obviously needed the motivational power of "The Hammer" that Bethel enjoyed in the 1990's.  I think I might be the only Bethel poster on the board old enough to get that reference (sigh).

[OzJohnnie]

Slow day, I should say something controversial.

Ramler will lock up the SJU job and his second conference win on Saturday.

I don't think you'll get much arguing about that.  Folks would be pretty happy.

(About the second result, not the first)

[edstone]

OK all you current and former Tommies, I've heard a bunch of talk of late that UST will be making a move to NCAA D-II in the coming years. The talk is that UST has won national titles in baseball and basketball and that a national title in football is the only thing holding them back.  Any truth to any of that rumor? 

[skunks_sidekick]

OK all you current and former Tommies, I've heard a bunch of talk of late that UST will be making a move to NCAA D-II in the coming years. The talk is that UST has won national titles in baseball and basketball and that a national title in football is the only thing holding them back.  Any truth to any of that rumor?

Well I guess you can put a "hold" on that move any time soon.  Until they at LEAST get to a semi-final, I think all this D-II talk is just a tad premature.  OH....and totally ridiculous as well.  I doubt UST winning the Stagg Bowl will make any powers that be say....."yep...time to be movin' on up!"   

[USTBench]

OK all you current and former Tommies, I've heard a bunch of talk of late that UST will be making a move to NCAA D-II in the coming years. The talk is that UST has won national titles in baseball and basketball and that a national title in football is the only thing holding them back.  Any truth to any of that rumor?

Well I guess you can put a "hold" on that move any time soon.  Until they at LEAST get to a semi-final, I think all this D-II talk is just a tad premature.  OH....and totally ridiculous as well.  I doubt UST winning the Stagg Bowl will make any powers that be say....."yep...time to be movin' on up!"   

*Facepalm

NOOOOOOOO!

Where UST (or any MIAC school for that matter) wants to be academically, fits nowhere in the D-II landscape.

Furthermore, college athletics is not akin to the Minnesota high school athletic association. Enrollment numbers, perceived athletic success, etc., do not dictate wheither a team moves up a division or down a division.

Watching UST play in the primarily empty aluminum constructed abominations of the NSIC, against the likes of UM-Crookston and Minot St., does nothing for the institution athletically or academically. Giving out scholarships to have less people come to your games makes no sense. 

[218Tommie]

I agree wholeheartedly with Bench, there is no reason for us to move up to DII. We'd be going against all our values if we were to make that move. Also, if we were to ever make a jump, it would most likely be FCS, although I see that highly unlikely and we have a long, long, way to go before we could be competitive athletically there, and we would also have to make a few changes in other areas as well.

[nkwest]

Where UST (or any MIAC school for that matter) wants to be academically, fits nowhere in the D-II landscape.

Furthermore, college athletics is not akin to the Minnesota high school athletic association. Enrollment numbers, perceived athletic success, etc., do not dictate wheither a team moves up a division or down a division.

Indeed. Do these rumors ever start with anyone remotely affiliated with UST, or are they primarily generated by people who don't understand the landscape of MIAC (and D3 in general) athletics?

[SUMMIT!!!!!]

Where UST (or any MIAC school for that matter) wants to be academically, fits nowhere in the D-II landscape.

Furthermore, college athletics is not akin to the Minnesota high school athletic association. Enrollment numbers, perceived athletic success, etc., do not dictate wheither a team moves up a division or down a division.

Indeed. Do these rumors ever start with anyone remotely affiliated with UST, or are they primarily generated by people who don't understand the landscape of MIAC (and D3 in general) athletics?

nearly always with people who havent set foot on a d3 school campus in eons if ever.

UST is committed to offering a full range of sports for both genders. D2 would mean shrinking the atheltic department, and at the same time increase the budget (via scholarships). Most importantly, UST's vision is in perfect sync with that of D3-- athletics is a PART of the college experience, not the end-all and be-all of college life.

Wasnt this horse beaten to death barely a month ago here? 

[nkwest]

Wasnt this horse beaten to death barely a month ago here? 

Zombie horse; it's nearly Halloween. Cut off its head this time.

[Pat Coleman]

OK all you current and former Tommies, I've heard a bunch of talk of late that UST will be making a move to NCAA D-II in the coming years. The talk is that UST has won national titles in baseball and basketball and that a national title in football is the only thing holding them back.  Any truth to any of that rumor?

Didn't we just have this discussion? There's no D-II hockey, so what does UST do there? D-I hockey is pretty prohibitive all things considered.

[USTBench]

Wasnt this horse beaten to death barely a month ago here? 

Zombie horse; it's nearly Halloween. Cut off its head this time.

Well, it would be dead but the SJU rubes turn the word "if" into hyperbole.

For instance, what is actually written: "If UST was to jump a division, going Division 1 FCS non-scholarship, making basketball our flagship, and cutting the hockey program would be the only forseeable direction at this point." The pragmatic among us, put the caveat "But this will not be happening any time soon" at the end of the sentence. They also know, that despite the changes to the campus making this possibilty easily attainable, that getting into this argument is a waste of time, not to mention most alums/students are happy with DIII.

What is read by the SJU rube: U$T is going to outdraw the Gophers, take their spot in the Big10, win a Rose Bowl, and Glenn Caruso will be dubbed the patron saint of College Football.

This is usually followed by smashing "Tommies Suck" into a keyboard with their knuckles before an aneurysm ensues.

[Retired Old Rat]

Bench, your posts are becoming highly predictable .