FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Mr. Ypsi]

I was at the game.

SJF had some big kids, they just could not match ST's athletecism.  Also not much depth.

Met some very nice SJF parents. 

Number 7 for SJF, Ryan Francis, appeared to have a serious right knee injury.  Went down late in the 3rd quarter.  He was SJF's number one playmaker, not sure why they didnt' figure out more ways to get the ball in his hands.

I listened in on SJF head coach Paul Vosburgh's post game comments to his team.  (I was taking photos, I couldn't help but hear what he said.)  I was impressed with what he had to say and the way he said it.  Very classy and a good way, given the circumstances, for his seniors to spend their last moments on a football field in SJF uniforms.

The officiating crew was from the CCIW.  Best call all day, from my perspective, was when Jack Gavin of ST intercepted a pass in the back corner of the ST endzone in the 3rd quarter.  The official who was right there put up both arms to signal a touchdown.  An unnamed MIAC head coach who was standing right there chuckled and said to him "I'm not going to say anything."

I was really hoping SJF would give ST and better game and provide a better measuring stick of just how good ST really is.  Based on the two times I've seen them this year, I think they can hand with Whitewater.  They have size, speed and athletecism.  The unknown is how they will react when the team on the other side of the ball matches their size, speed and athletecism.  And how they will react the first time that dlipping cannon goes off.

Now you know what the CCIW has to put up with.  (Though from the complaints I read, I don't know if they are any worse than in most leagues. )

+K for using 'dlipping' correctly!

[Retired Old Rat]

Now you know what the CCIW has to put up with.  (Though from the complaints I read, I don't know if they are any worse than in most leagues. )

+K for using 'dlipping' correctly!

Thanks Ypsi.  Hat tip to you on that one.  Is it one p or two?  I thought is was only one so I edited to remove.  Don't want the spelling police all over me.

On that note, ST. was dominate today. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Now you know what the CCIW has to put up with.  (Though from the complaints I read, I don't know if they are any worse than in most leagues. )

+K for using 'dlipping' correctly!

Thanks Ypsi.  Hat tip to you on that one.  Is it one p or two?  I thought is was only one so I edited to remove.  Don't want the spelling police all over me.

On that note, ST. was dominate today. 

I s'pose we could defer to dlip for a final ruling , but I always figured if I didn't do a double p, it would make for a long 'i' - and 'd-lie-ping' just doesn't seem right!

(I won't delete your +k just for trying to evade the spelling police. )

(Though, according to dlip, I may have invented the term, so I say two 'p's!  And dlip the sppelling ppolice! )

[skunks_sidekick]

Larry Kehres would NEVER allow his 2nd/3rd/4th team throw a pass with the score and time left in the game being what it was.  NEVER.........

To each his own.......enough said.

[retagent]

Not having seen UST play this year, but knowing the yearly strength of the MIAC, and having seen UWW play, I would say the game next week is a TOSSUP.

[retagent]

Larry Kehres would NEVER allow his 2nd/3rd/4th team throw a pass with the score and time left in the game being what it was.  NEVER.........

To each his own.......enough said.

Since they are in that position often, how does he get them game experience? I think you do a disservice to your team if you don't prep the non-starters if you are able to do so. If it were the starters, I can see the point of the whiners, but why would you tell players to not execute the offense. It does nothing to see them "take a knee." At my age, I could do that. I'm sorry, but what if Tracy gets hurt, or Waldvogel? Don't you want to send someone in who has the experience, and some confidence that they can perform?

[skunks_sidekick]

Larry Kehres would NEVER allow his 2nd/3rd/4th team throw a pass with the score and time left in the game being what it was.  NEVER.........

To each his own.......enough said.

Since they are in that position often, how does he get them game experience? I think you do a disservice to your team if you don't prep the non-starters if you are able to do so. If it were the starters, I can see the point of the whiners, but why would you tell players to not execute the offense. It does nothing to see them "take a knee." At my age, I could do that. I'm sorry, but what if Tracy gets hurt, or Waldvogel? Don't you want to send someone in who has the experience, and some confidence that they can perform?

I personally have never really got the whole running up the score thing.  The game isn't for protecting people's feelings.  I think some are being oversensitive here... including the fisher announcers.

Sorry dude but you don't throw the ball up 25 on 1st and 2nd downs with under 1:00 left in the game and then run a play action fake on the 9 with under 30 seconds to go...

What you might gain in "experience" throwing the ball on 1st and 2nd down with a minute left is not worth the classless bull**** "if you don't like it stop us" attitude that a team displays doing that.  Run the ball, play hard, but you don't throw.  Well wait.......MOUNT doesn't throw.  UST.....does.

[WashedUp]

Larry Kehres would NEVER allow his 2nd/3rd/4th team throw a pass with the score and time left in the game being what it was.  NEVER.........

To each his own.......enough said.

Since they are in that position often, how does he get them game experience? I think you do a disservice to your team if you don't prep the non-starters if you are able to do so. If it were the starters, I can see the point of the whiners, but why would you tell players to not execute the offense. It does nothing to see them "take a knee." At my age, I could do that. I'm sorry, but what if Tracy gets hurt, or Waldvogel? Don't you want to send someone in who has the experience, and some confidence that they can perform?

I personally have never really got the whole running up the score thing.  The game isn't for protecting people's feelings.  I think some are being oversensitive here... including the fisher announcers.

Sorry dude but you don't throw the ball up 25 on 1st and 2nd downs with under 1:00 left in the game and then run a play action fake on the 9 with under 30 seconds to go...

What you might gain in "experience" throwing the ball on 1st and 2nd down with a minute left is not worth the classless bull**** "if you don't like it stop us" attitude that a team displays doing that.  Run the ball, play hard, but you don't throw.  Well wait.......MOUNT doesn't throw.  UST.....does.

Is kicking field goals on first down in a blow out really any more classy?  I'd rather a team threw late than played like they didn't need to give 100% to beat a team.

[OzJohnnie]

I was camping all weekend with #'s 2 & 3 while Mrs Oz stayed home with #1.  I see the Tommies won big.  I also see that the Tommies were classless to the end.  Both results were predictable.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Larry Kehres would NEVER allow his 2nd/3rd/4th team throw a pass with the score and time left in the game being what it was.  NEVER.........

To each his own.......enough said.

Since they are in that position often, how does he get them game experience? I think you do a disservice to your team if you don't prep the non-starters if you are able to do so. If it were the starters, I can see the point of the whiners, but why would you tell players to not execute the offense. It does nothing to see them "take a knee." At my age, I could do that. I'm sorry, but what if Tracy gets hurt, or Waldvogel? Don't you want to send someone in who has the experience, and some confidence that they can perform?

I personally have never really got the whole running up the score thing.  The game isn't for protecting people's feelings.  I think some are being oversensitive here... including the fisher announcers.

Sorry dude but you don't throw the ball up 25 on 1st and 2nd downs with under 1:00 left in the game and then run a play action fake on the 9 with under 30 seconds to go...

What you might gain in "experience" throwing the ball on 1st and 2nd down with a minute left is not worth the classless bull**** "if you don't like it stop us" attitude that a team displays doing that.  Run the ball, play hard, but you don't throw.  Well wait.......MOUNT doesn't throw.  UST.....does.

Is kicking field goals on first down in a blow out really any more classy?  I'd rather a team threw late than played like they didn't need to give 100% to beat a team.

Oh, come on!  There is a bit of a middle ground between kicking field goals on first down and throwing passes with less than a minute left!  Sheesh!

Practice your 'run up the middle' plays.  If they can't stop your 'scrubs' on that, then ****em.  That is their problem.  But throwing passes when the game is already won - that is YOUR problem.

I am sincerely hoping that UST is better than some of their supporters.

[WashedUp]

I am sincerely hoping that UST is better than some of their supporters.

I'm not a Tommie supporter outside of cheering for MIAC teams in the playoffs.  In fact, UST was accused of running up the score this year when they beat my team.

Just wanted to throw this out there for fodder.

In Saturday's game with my Knights, UST (or U$T, if you prefer), the Tommies ran a fake field goal, a halfback pass, an onside kick, and a fake punt.

I understand the reasoning to get all these plays on tape and make your NCAA opponent(s) prepare for such plays, but in a game where it was 42-0 midway through the second quarter, where does one cross the line into unsportsmanlike behavior in this instance? I also fully recognize that this is college football, not peewees, and the Knights need to play better to keep the game competitive.

Also, no need for the UST coaching staff to go ballistic when our punt returner had a nice little return and the refs picked up a flag. You were ahead 42-0 at the time--chill out.

OK, I'll hang up and listen to the responses.

I have no problem with it.  It's UST's job to do whatever they think will best prepare them for the playoffs, not to go easy on the opponent because they are up big early and it's Carleton's job to stop them (which we obviously couldn't).  UST has a bye week and then what should be an easy opening round (I'm assuming they'll play Scholastica), so you need to do whatever you can to keep the intensity high.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Understood, but disagree.

One of my favorite stories is when Woody Hayes went (successfully) for a two-point conversion late in a blowout over Michigan (1968 - they won 50-14).  Asked after the game why he went for two, he replied "because I couldn't go for three".

Understandably, this did not set well with Michigan.   They hired a new coach (Bo Who? was the headline in the Ann Arbor News).  Ohio State in 1969 had a team widely considered the greatest college football team in history.  Reportedly there was not a single day of practice in Ann Arbor where the two-point conversion was not mentioned.  Michigan beat the 'unbeatable' Buckeyes, 24-12 that November.

Be careful whose face you kick sand in - he may become Charles Atlas (apologies to those too young to have a clue what I mean by that! )

[dlippiel]

dlip is flattered regarding the discussion of the proper use of his name when cursing. ****, this is a great way to start the day  ! In dlip's D3 name there are obviously only one P but in dlip's actual last name, Lippiello, there are two. dlip will leave this to Ypsi to make the call. dlip trusts Ypsi completely!

By the way, dlip wishes both UST and U-Dub a ton of luck for next week. dlip has always been a U-Dub supporter when it comes down to the final, but we shall see this year. dlip has a feeling, after watching some of the game yesterday, that this UST team may be able to play right with U-Dub, if not do even more than that. It is going to be interesting, and dlip can honestly say he wouldn't be opposed to a non UMU/UWW Stagg for once.

[stormyfuture]

I watched both UST and UWW play UWRF this fall on the road.  Both teams posted similar scores against the basement of the WIAC this year.  I'm looking forward to this game.  I've been wanting UST to get their shot at the big 2 for the last year or so.  Lets Go Tommies

[DuffMan]

And how they will react the first time that dlipping cannon goes off.

On that note, ST. was dominate today. 

I'd give you +2K for those, if I could!    God, I hate that dlipping cannon.  The Perk does have the nicest bathrooms in D3, though!