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[AO]

Sounds like we can live stream the public meetings of the SJU coach interviews.

Click here to get there.

I could make a comment on how they can live stream an interview but not a football game.   

But you won't.

For what it's worth, it's John who didn't want to stream the games and not the University....

too lazy to dig up the quote, but Frank asked Tom Stock about it, and he stated he was afraid of losing season ticket revenue due to all the families and old timers who would jump at the chance to huddle around the computer screen.  It's not like gameday in Collegeville has any appeal. 

[raiderguy]

OK I'll ask the question.........Where does Jimmy fit into all of this. Is he out completely or will there be a token spot for him on the staff. Maybe he could take the EP job! 

As far as I know he still has not thrown an interception or fumbled a hand-off or snap.

John have any imput on the selection? I have not read anything about him being involved.

[oldsju67]

Sounds like we can live stream the public meetings of the SJU coach interviews.

Click here to get there.

I could make a comment on how they can live stream an interview but not a football game.   

But you won't.

For what it's worth, it's John who didn't want to stream the games and not the University....

too lazy to dig up the quote, but Frank asked Tom Stock about it, and he stated he was afraid of losing season ticket revenue due to all the families and old timers who would jump at the chance to huddle around the computer screen.  It's not like gameday in Collegeville has any appeal.

Stock was covering for John.

[oldsju67]

Can someone tell me why this  guy didn't get more playing time this year at SJU?

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/748761/highlights/2466540
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKsCDX8Cq3I
http://www.mnfootballhub.com/roster_players/537790
http://www.gojohnnies.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=8418&path=football

Compare him to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKsCDX8Cq3I

Faunch, the compare video is also of Sam.  Quick answer to your question, because in John's system he leans heavily on upper classmen.  Even if a freshman is slightly better...

Sorry...compare to: http://www.tommiesports.com/ftbl/roster/Braddock_Brenton.html

I understand that's how the system worked.  Don't necessarily agree w/ it.  If every coach in the country did that Johnny M might not have won the Heisman this year.

That said I'm trying to be optimistic that the Johnnies have a few underclassmen waiting in the wings.

Agree, but remember there has been freshman who've started at SJU.  Bungum this year is an example and Nick Martin too.  We just had a lot of running backs this year and they didn't get injured, plus Sura did see game time which is more than a lot of freshman at SJU can say.  I'm sure if you went back to Steve Johnson's high school videos you would see he busted off the same types of runs that we see in Sam's video...

What really needs to happen is SJU to put together a JV squad.  As was mentioned by some current players, and felt by former players, they went out for the football team to play football and many never get a chance to show if they're even able to play.  It's easy to get lost in the swarm of 180 players.  That being said, running a JV squad is gonna be an expense for the department.  Travel costs, someone to coach the game while the head coach is with the varsity team etc...  I can see a tradeoff if you cut the roster size from 180 to 100 ish, but if you don't where does the money come from?

I think the other thing that has to happen at SJU, are more position coaches.  An individual very close to the team made a comment to me at an alumni function a few years ago regarding QB's specifically, but I think it fits for all positions.  This person made the statement that QB's that come into the system generally are the best they will ever be when they walk in the door as freshman.  That's because there's no position coach to work with them on mechanics, reading a defense etc... and when you think about it that person is right.  So, if it's true for one position it must be true for all positions, right?  Again, more money then the University had to spend in the past, so will they spend it now....

Somewhat disagree. Under Roney UST had a JV squad and it was great for guys like me to get a chance to play, but what tended to happen was too much clutter be it not-enough-snaps-to-go-around, or even worse, the JV game turning into a must-win as opposed to a tool to evaluate talent.

A "futures" game is the best way, in my opinion, to figure that out. If you have an abundance of bodies, which many teams do, in a futures game, everyone is taking snaps and all-of-the-sudden a coach may discover "Hey, that weird kid we didn't even recruit has some stick to him, can run guys down and knows the defense. I did not gather that by simply watching his unorthodox running style for 5 seconds during two-a-days and immediately putting him on the 'Will Never Play in a Million Years Even if We're Winning by 1,000 points' category."

Don't get me wrong, I received plenty of snaps on the JV level and parlayed that into some memorable garbage time/special teams scenarios at the Varsity level, but you're still spreading your time out amongst guys that are one injury away from starting on Saturday or guys on your same level or below on the depth chart, so you don't really get to be "in-the-flow" of the game. There were series I remember where I would catch a ball or two, and maybe carry it a few times and start feeling like I was getting something going, maybe a first down or something, and then a different guy gets the next series or spells you after a first down.

Futures games are incredibly easy to organize, you don't have the logistics of bringing in another team or traveling somewhere. Just turn on the lights on Sunday night, turn on the scoreboard, split up the teams, bring in some refs and play. Guy 1-44 should be there helping coach up the younger guys/scout teamers on their assignments and boom: game-like atmosphere, using the actual offense/defense and coaches get to honestly evaluate talent. Should be easy for any team that fields more than 100 guys to pull off.

Additionally, there are so many in-measurables that one doesn't see during a school's "combine" day. A kid at the the DIII level may run a 5 second forty and struggle/fail to put up 225lbs one time on the bench press, but if you get him on the field he may have a knack for setting up blocks, or great hands in traffic, or be a fantastic tackler, get concept better than someone else. You just don't know if you don't put them in a game situation.

The Myan's might be right about the world ending on the 21st, because not only am I going to agree with a Tommie on this idea, but I also think it's a great idea!   

[sjusection105]

OK I'll ask the question.........Where does Jimmy fit into all of this. Is he out completely or will there be a token spot for him on the staff. Maybe he could take the EP job! 

As far as I know he still has not thrown an interception or fumbled a hand-off or snap.

John have any imput on the selection? I have not read anything about him being involved.

I think that is still "a fluid situation" as they say. Nothing would surprise me,depending on who gets the job as head coach.

The only thing ever said in public was that Frank R. from the St. Cloud Times asked if he would apply for the head coaching job & Jimmy's response was "I'm not inclined to apply"- so if he did or not is not public knowledge (at least not readily available public knowledge)-if there is a spot on the staff for him,it may not be OC. Where does he go & what does he do? He has a family to provide for. Will he be willing to move? Does he stay in St. Cloud & change careers at age 45 when all he has done as an adult is coach football. I believe he earned his MBA from St. Cloud State,but if he has never applied the education in the business world,is he employable? Lots of questions.

[OzJohnnie]

New poll: Date for SJU coach announcement. Actually, a pool.

Pick a date and send me a PM in case I don't pick it up.  Any takers.  First to pick a date gets it and I'll let the followers to a date know they need to pick a new one.

The winner gets free Hawthorn gear.  I've got a scarf and hat I'll send.  If no one hits the date then I'll figure out an tie breaker (probably closest person to the date that isn't a Tommie).

Prizes (or approximations of) pictured below.

   

(If it turns out that an announcement date has already been set by the school and my quick check of the SJU websites didn't see it then the first person to send me a really asinine PM pointing out that fact with a link wins.  But only if it's a really offensive email.  So I guess that means either a Tommie, dlip, or another East region poster.)

[faunch]

Q and A w/ Mike Grant...he alludes to the possibility of having a whistle at practices. 

http://www.sctimes.com/article/20121218/SPORTS04/312180008/Q-Eden-Prairie-head-coach-Mike-Grant

[Retired Old Rat]

Mike Grant will be announced as the new coach on 12/21.

[faunch]

New poll: Date for SJU coach announcement. Actually, a pool.

Pick a date and send me a PM in case I don't pick it up.  Any takers.  First to pick a date gets it and I'll let the followers to a date know they need to pick a new one.

The winner gets free Hawthorn gear.  I've got a scarf and hat I'll send.  If no one hits the date then I'll figure out an tie breaker (probably closest person to the date that isn't a Tommie).

Prizes (or approximations of) pictured below.

   

(If it turns out that an announcement date has already been set by the school and my quick check of the SJU websites didn't see it then the first person to send me a really asinine PM pointing out that fact with a link wins.  But only if it's a really offensive email.  So I guess that means either a Tommie, dlip, or another East region poster.)

I sent you a PM around 6:30 am stating that Mike Grant will be named the new SJU coach on 12/21...I didn't think were requiring us to post it publicly. 

[hazzben]

New poll: Date for SJU coach announcement. Actually, a pool.

Pick a date and send me a PM in case I don't pick it up.  Any takers.  First to pick a date gets it and I'll let the followers to a date know they need to pick a new one.

The winner gets free Hawthorn gear.  I've got a scarf and hat I'll send.  If no one hits the date then I'll figure out an tie breaker (probably closest person to the date that isn't a Tommie).

Prizes (or approximations of) pictured below.

   

(If it turns out that an announcement date has already been set by the school and my quick check of the SJU websites didn't see it then the first person to send me a really asinine PM pointing out that fact with a link wins.  But only if it's a really offensive email.  So I guess that means either a Tommie, dlip, or another East region poster.)

12/22

[Desertraider]

So has a date been announced? or are these just the dates people have selected? I could really use some Hawthorn Gear! Um, what's Hawthorn?

Announcement on 12/21 (at 10:30AM SJUtime) - and then the world ends. Will I still get my gear?

[jknezek]

Given that SJU tried to upstage the Stagg with their announcement of the final 4 candidates, isn't it only logical to announce the hiring the morning of 12/25? I mean, it's got to be that important, right?

[DuffMan]

Given that SJU tried to upstage the Stagg with their announcement of the final 4 candidates, isn't it only logical to announce the hiring the morning of 12/25? I mean, it's got to be that important, right?

Final three.  And that surely looked to be U$T's problem! 

[DuffMan]

Did anyone get a chance to watch Gary Fasching's SJU forum today?  He's not the charming public speaker that Mike Grant is, so I was wondering what your thoughts of the forum were.

[sfury]

Did anyone get a chance to watch Gary Fasching's SJU forum today?  He's not the charming public speaker that Mike Grant is, so I was wondering what your thoughts of the forum were.

Seemed like he had pretty good command of the room. Started off with a joke about how after he saw how many people were at Grant's, he was worried no one would show up today.

Lot of recruiting talk.