FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[USTBench]

Just had this forwarded to me...   

http://msn.foxsports.com/lacesout/cardinals-safety-rashad-johnson-loses-part-of-finger-during-sundays-game/

Talk about a high pain tolerance. Yikes!

We adrenaline junkies have all played after what would be considered a debilitating injury in the "real world". He probably knew it wasn't "right" but just kept on going. I played the last 8 minutes of a game as a center snapping the ball with my middle meta-carple snapped in half on my right hand. Did it hurt? Yeah, but not enough to stop playing - are you kidding?

Just sayin'

One time against Augsburg I had inhaled a sunflower seed down the wrong pipe. Had a pretty bad coughing attack. Fast forward a quarter later and I had to go in on punt.  If that had happened to Joe Bagofdonuts at work I would imagine he'd take the week off. NOT ME cowboy!

[DuffMan]

We adrenaline junkies have all played after what would be considered a debilitating injury in the "real world". He probably knew it wasn't "right" but just kept on going. I played the last 8 minutes of a game as a center snapping the ball with my middle meta-carple snapped in half on my right hand. Did it hurt? Yeah, but not enough to stop playing - are you kidding?

Just sayin'

I broke a meta carpal during a wrestling match.  Finished up the match and won.   Of course, several weeks later when they rebroke and reset it, I didn't have that adrenaline going and it hurt way more!

I also cut off a portion of my thumb on a table saw.  That one stung a bit. 

[ron doney]

Something about this photo from the SCTimes made me chuckle but I just don't think their caption captures the true essence of the photo.



SCTimes caption: University of St. Thomas fans leave the field after Saturday's game against St. John's at O'Shaughnessy Stadium in St. Paul.

Any creative types out there got any thoughts on a catchy quip for it?

Those are the guys from the seminary. 

[Pat Coleman]

Also, you heard it here first.  The 9-1 Johnnies, 9-1 Royals, and 9-1 Tommies will be going dancing this year.

PC,

Would the committee allow it?

One time in the automatic bid era we've had three teams from a conference. In the unlikely event that all three teams here go 9-1, it would certainly be a possibility.

Wouldn't it be a near certainty?  SJU would be the auto bid and St. Thomas and Bethel would both have good SOS numbers and wins over regionally ranked opponents.

SJU would have the AQ and the committee doesn't have to think about them. St. Thomas would have the head-to-head win over Bethel in this hypothetical. Not sure where SOS will shake down because UST will benefit from playing two WIAC teams and will likely have better OOWP than Bethel.

[ron doney]

It looks to me like Linfield should be ranked first.   

I wonder if the Toms will tolerate the same degree of hair-splitting from Linfield fans as we witnessed on the MIAC board roughly 10 days ago?

"We're only 8 points out of first, we shouldn't be #2! If anything, we should be ranked as co-#1 teams!"

Yes...I welcomed it then and still do.  Your characterization and quote of me is inaccurate. 
Take off the johnnie red rose colored glasses and go back and read those posts.
If they still don't make sense, read the two articles by Keith - he writes for d3.com. 

These are the discussion relevant D3 teams have.  Happy to welcome y'all to the conversation now that you are back in the top 25.

[Retired Old Rat]

I'm expecting the J's with a Monkey Stomp^tm over the Cobbers.   

[Just trying to stir the pot and show the UST guys how quickly we can re-gain our arrogance.]

[bennie]

Something about this photo from the SCTimes made me chuckle but I just don't think their caption captures the true essence of the photo.



SCTimes caption: University of St. Thomas fans leave the field after Saturday's game against St. John's at O'Shaughnessy Stadium in St. Paul.

Any creative types out there got any thoughts on a catchy quip for it?

Those are the guys from the seminary.

So those are the only tools they're allowed to play with?? Yes, I went there!

[Retired Old Rat]

Ron, I don't have the patience to read the lengthy posts you put up analyzing the poll positioning last week.

What I reacted to, as I'm certain my friend Sam is, was the obsessive nature of your posts.  There were several horses beat dead by that thread.

[AO]

Also, you heard it here first.  The 9-1 Johnnies, 9-1 Royals, and 9-1 Tommies will be going dancing this year.

PC,

Would the committee allow it?

One time in the automatic bid era we've had three teams from a conference. In the unlikely event that all three teams here go 9-1, it would certainly be a possibility.

Wouldn't it be a near certainty?  SJU would be the auto bid and St. Thomas and Bethel would both have good SOS numbers and wins over regionally ranked opponents.

SJU would have the AQ and the committee doesn't have to think about them. St. Thomas would have the head-to-head win over Bethel in this hypothetical. Not sure where SOS will shake down because UST will benefit from playing two WIAC teams and will likely have better OOWP than Bethel.

I don't think it would matter who is ranked higher between Bethel and St. Thomas.  They would both be Pool C locks.  The MIAC has one non-conference loss.  Too much parity in the MIAC this year for this scenario to take place, but the SOS will be there.

[Pat Coleman]

AO, there are only five Pool C bids this year. There's no way two from one conference can be considered locks in that way, not before we know the rest of the contenders.

[cobbernation]

Also, you heard it here first.  The 9-1 Johnnies, 9-1 Royals, and 9-1 Tommies will be going dancing this year.

PC,

Would the committee allow it?

One time in the automatic bid era we've had three teams from a conference. In the unlikely event that all three teams here go 9-1, it would certainly be a possibility.

Wouldn't it be a near certainty?  SJU would be the auto bid and St. Thomas and Bethel would both have good SOS numbers and wins over regionally ranked opponents.

SJU would have the AQ and the committee doesn't have to think about them. St. Thomas would have the head-to-head win over Bethel in this hypothetical. Not sure where SOS will shake down because UST will benefit from playing two WIAC teams and will likely have better OOWP than Bethel.

Back to the board!  Good to see the usual suspects are posting as much as possible.  Very nice!

My thoughts on SJU, UST and BU going 9-1 and all making the playoffs is not going to happen.

Going back to last season before my cobbers were left out of the playoffs (which they should have been included in), there is zero chance 3 teams from the same conference get in the bracket.  The NCAA probably doesn't want this to happen.  They don't want to foot the bill for having teams travel at D3 level.

I still don't understand how BU made it in front of Concordia last season.  Both teams were 8-2.  Yes, I understand BU beat CC 15-14 and UST beat CC 21-7.  However, CC beat STO (which beat BU by 7) and BU lost to UST by 37.

I don't understand the logic and most likely I never will.  Don't count my cobbers out of the playoff conversation yet, it remains to be seen what happens in Collegeville this weekend.

[ron doney]

Ron, I don't have the patience to read the lengthy posts you put up analyzing the poll positioning last week.

What I reacted to, as I'm certain my friend Sam is, was the obsessive nature of your posts.  There were several horses beat dead by that thread.

Sure, but in my defense I'd say that y'all are like trying to argue with a politician. I try to be precise and nuanced in my points...and all I get back is a cliches on football and polls.  I try sticking to the point asking the question a second and third time, like a journalist questioning a politician, but to no avail.  That's why it looks like the dead horse is beaten. 

[02 Warhawk]

AO, there are only five Pool C bids this year. There's no way two from one conference can be considered locks in that way, not before we know the rest of the contenders.

Especially with the way the WIAC might play out this season. Three teams in the top 12 right now (which...I know...has nothing to do when picking Pool C teams). And there's no clear cut favorite this year.

[ron doney]

After the 2011 season for UST I looked at the 2012 year as a true test in reloading - figured they'd be down or about the same at best.  Then in 2013 they would make their first national championship game appearance. 

In hindsight the expectations should have been flipped between '12 and '13.  It's just a little puzzling. 

Whitewater in 2011, Mount last year and SJ1 this year have all beat UST with dink and dunk offenses....short drop quick passes and run plays between the guards.  (This is my fuzzy memory at least). I like that style of offense. I wish Caruso would incorporate it more often and Coach K has got to figure out a way to stop it if he is going to have a national championship defense. 

[AO]

AO, there are only five Pool C bids this year. There's no way two from one conference can be considered locks in that way, not before we know the rest of the contenders.

You picked 3 from the MIAC last year, and Concordia was only 8-2.  The SOS will be similarly high this year.  Buena Vista and Wartburg are going to win games this year and as you mentioned, St. Thomas' WIAC non-conference opponents boosts the OOWP. 

Especially with the way the WIAC might play out this season. Three teams in the top 12 right now (which...I know...has nothing to do when picking Pool C teams). And there's no clear cut favorite this year.

It's close, but I don't see how the 2nd place WIAC team jumps ahead of a 1 loss St. Thomas or Bethel.