FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[hazzben]

Treimer named to D3football.com Team of the Week

CB Josh Treimer, Sr., Bethel
Treimer finished Saturday's 31-28 victory against Augsburg with 10 total tackles, including seven solo, and a forced fumble to help Bethel remain unbeaten.

I've said it earlier this year, it's nice to have him healthy this season. His play was especially significant on Saturday because both of Bethel's starting safeties went down with injuries early (Morgan managed an INT before he left). Never ideal to go against a player like Scott with half your starting secondary down.

And teams can't forget that Scott is not a one man wrecking ball. He has an excellent TE as well as a real deal WR & a reliable RB to go along with the freak show Scott puts on display. As far as potential (if everything clicks) Auggie is the most balanced offense in the conference. Disrupting & limiting Scott's big plays is how a team can manage a W- as Bethel showed last week.
CobberNation hit it on the head- you have to play very stingy D and make sure your offense has time consuming & productive drives.

Meant to reply to this earlier. Augsburg offense is definitely legit and multi-faceted. Scott is obviously a dual threat. I do think they'll struggle running the ball in a traditional sense against top flight defenses. Scott will pad their rushing numbers with his scrambling ability, but their Oline will have a tough time opening holes against better front 7's. Although Putratz (sp?) is a good back.

I'd dispute Augsburg being the most (or potentially most) balanced offense in the conference. UST and Bethel are right there in terms of balance and better in terms of yardage. You could actually make the argument Augsburg is a bit imbalanced given how much their offense depends on Scott throwing & running. UST and Bethel both have multiple running backs and WR's who are significant contributors.

And as to the All American TE for Augsburg. He's a very solid receiving option. But he's not really a TE aside from how he's listed in the roster and program. I tried to watch on Saturday and I'm not sure I saw him lined up as an inline blocker and traditional TE the entire game. He was constantly (exclusively??) in the slot. Maybe that was just their game plan against Bethel. But I'm guessing this is how he's typically used. He's a good receiver, but by being labeled a TE, it makes the receiving stats pop more than they would if he was being compared apples to apples to other players who line up 90% of the time in the slot. When I think of AA caliber TE's I think Augsburg's Newman from a few years ago was much more deserving. Devastating blocker, goods hands and athletic enough to create after the play.

[hazzben]

Congrats to the MIAC Football Athletes of the Week:

Offense:

Jeffrey Dubose, GAC - 215 yds rushing, 5 TDs. He has 11 rushing TDs on the season and is averaging 150 ypg.

Defense:

Josh Treimer, BU - 10 tkls, 1 FF

Specials:

Andrew O'Reilly, BU - 4 for 4 on PAT's (He's been big, given the starting kicker went down week 1 v. Wartburg. Makes you wonder what Bethel could have been like back in 2006 and 2007 with even 1 kicker  )

[Johnnie]

In the world of Dumb and Dumber and Beavis and Butthead, I agree it's definitely B.  But I'll disagree with my esteemed colleagues.  To me it's entirely possible, and no less funny, if the black kid is the only student smart enough to play along.  So my answer is A.  (Hint - if the black kid pronounced his name Ti-MOTH-y at school, the other students in the class would have figured out where the teacher was coming from; but they didn't.)

Maybe I'll ask my wife.  She taught for 20 years in a high school in Richmond, CA, in a school were whites were such a minority that they formed an Indo-European Club.  She's heard every name pronunciation possible.

Thanks.  But I guess this issue have been around since at least 1976:

Tony Dorsett played football for the University of Pittsburgh (winning the 1976 Heisman Trophy). While he was a student, his name was pronounced "DOR-sit."

When he was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys, he announced that people had been saying his name wrong all those years. It should have been "dor-SETT."

Asked to comment on this, Roger Staubach (the Cowboys' QB who played at the Naval Academy) said that he had been meaning to correct the sportscasters for some time. His name should not be pronounced "ROJ-er STA-bach." Instead, it should be "ro-JHAY sto-BAH."

Maybe that's why John always wanted to be called just "John."

Johnnie  ("John-NEEE") 

[sfury]

Since we're talking pronunciation...Young Frankenstein.

http://youtu.be/nxxSIX3fmmo

[OldAuggie]

Treimer named to D3football.com Team of the Week

CB Josh Treimer, Sr., Bethel
Treimer finished Saturday's 31-28 victory against Augsburg with 10 total tackles, including seven solo, and a forced fumble to help Bethel remain unbeaten.

I've said it earlier this year, it's nice to have him healthy this season. His play was especially significant on Saturday because both of Bethel's starting safeties went down with injuries early (Morgan managed an INT before he left). Never ideal to go against a player like Scott with half your starting secondary down.

And teams can't forget that Scott is not a one man wrecking ball. He has an excellent TE as well as a real deal WR & a reliable RB to go along with the freak show Scott puts on display. As far as potential (if everything clicks) Auggie is the most balanced offense in the conference. Disrupting & limiting Scott's big plays is how a team can manage a W- as Bethel showed last week.
CobberNation hit it on the head- you have to play very stingy D and make sure your offense has time consuming & productive drives.

Meant to reply to this earlier. Augsburg offense is definitely legit and multi-faceted. Scott is obviously a dual threat. I do think they'll struggle running the ball in a traditional sense against top flight defenses. Scott will pad their rushing numbers with his scrambling ability, but their Oline will have a tough time opening holes against better front 7's. Although Putratz (sp?) is a good back.

I'd dispute Augsburg being the most (or potentially most) balanced offense in the conference. UST and Bethel are right there in terms of balance and better in terms of yardage. You could actually make the argument Augsburg is a bit imbalanced given how much their offense depends on Scott throwing & running. UST and Bethel both have multiple running backs and WR's who are significant contributors.

And as to the All American TE for Augsburg. He's a very solid receiving option. But he's not really a TE aside from how he's listed in the roster and program. I tried to watch on Saturday and I'm not sure I saw him lined up as an inline blocker and traditional TE the entire game. He was constantly (exclusively??) in the slot. Maybe that was just their game plan against Bethel. But I'm guessing this is how he's typically used. He's a good receiver, but by being labeled a TE, it makes the receiving stats pop more than they would if he was being compared apples to apples to other players who line up 90% of the time in the slot. When I think of AA caliber TE's I think Augsburg's Newman from a few years ago was much more deserving. Devastating blocker, goods hands and athletic enough to create after the play.

Scott did "scramble" against Bethel I guess but a lot of his rushing yards come when he looks for daylight, sees it, puts the ball under his arm and away he goes. At that point he is a running back. You should see him against another team. Bethel had a good scheme to stop him and some very good defensive players to actually hold him down a little. The only other team I saw do that to him last year was UST. If you call that long run he had against Bethel scrambling then I guess you are spot on. That was classic Scott though. Can a dual threat QB who runs the read option be labeled as a scrambler or is he just doing his thing? To me it's part of his skillset.  Carl is a TE who lines up in the slot a lot but he does line up next to the tackle sometimes.

[hazzben]

Scott did "scramble" against Bethel I guess but a lot of his rushing yards come when he looks for daylight, sees it, puts the ball under his arm and away he goes. At that point he is a running back. You should see him against another team. Bethel had a good scheme to stop him and some very good defensive players to actually hold him down a little. The only other team I saw do that to him last year was UST. If you call that long run he had against Bethel scrambling then I guess you are spot on. That was classic Scott though. Can a dual threat QB who runs the read option be labeled as a scrambler or is he just doing his thing? To me it's part of his skillset.

I'm not at all trying to denigrate Scott with the 'scramble' label. I'd put him in the category of a Tarkenton & Steve Young type QB. Mobile, escapability, good arms and effective scrambling and pulling it down. When I say scramble, I'm just saying they get a lot of rushing yards on plays that aren't designed runs. I've watched Scott online in 5 games so far...but certainly not your sample size. And I'm not trying to hate on the guy. I think he's a talent!

[OzJohnnie]

I'll hate him if we lose due to his fleet feet and crafty ways.

[Retired Old Rat]

Scott did "scramble" against Bethel I guess but a lot of his rushing yards come when he looks for daylight, sees it, puts the ball under his arm and away he goes. At that point he is a running back. You should see him against another team. Bethel had a good scheme to stop him and some very good defensive players to actually hold him down a little. The only other team I saw do that to him last year was UST. If you call that long run he had against Bethel scrambling then I guess you are spot on. That was classic Scott though. Can a dual threat QB who runs the read option be labeled as a scrambler or is he just doing his thing? To me it's part of his skillset.  Carl is a TE who lines up in the slot a lot but he does line up next to the tackle sometimes.

I did see him against another team, last year.  It was ugly.  For us.

[57Johnnie]

Catfish report:
The Boom-A-Rang Diner in Pryor, OK is still one of the best places to try to OD on Catfish 

On Friday from 4PM to closing all you can eat fried catfish is $9.99.

Mrs. 57 & I each just had the 8 piece basket today

[desertcat1]

HEY 57  ,
Their is also a boom-a rang in Claremore, OK Too..  Home of Will Rodgers...

[57Johnnie]

HEY 57  ,
Their is also a boom-a rang in Claremore, OK Too..  Home of Will Rodgers...

"... And Patti Page but we didn't see her on the way through - didn't  see a boom-a-rang either

[corn horn]

Treimer named to D3football.com Team of the Week

CB Josh Treimer, Sr., Bethel
Treimer finished Saturday's 31-28 victory against Augsburg with 10 total tackles, including seven solo, and a forced fumble to help Bethel remain unbeaten.

I've said it earlier this year, it's nice to have him healthy this season. His play was especially significant on Saturday because both of Bethel's starting safeties went down with injuries early (Morgan managed an INT before he left). Never ideal to go against a player like Scott with half your starting secondary down.

And teams can't forget that Scott is not a one man wrecking ball. He has an excellent TE as well as a real deal WR & a reliable RB to go along with the freak show Scott puts on display. As far as potential (if everything clicks) Auggie is the most balanced offense in the conference. Disrupting & limiting Scott's big plays is how a team can manage a W- as Bethel showed last week.
CobberNation hit it on the head- you have to play very stingy D and make sure your offense has time consuming & productive drives.

Meant to reply to this earlier. Augsburg offense is definitely legit and multi-faceted. Scott is obviously a dual threat. I do think they'll struggle running the ball in a traditional sense against top flight defenses. Scott will pad their rushing numbers with his scrambling ability, but their Oline will have a tough time opening holes against better front 7's. Although Putratz (sp?) is a good back.

I'd dispute Augsburg being the most (or potentially most) balanced offense in the conference. UST and Bethel are right there in terms of balance and better in terms of yardage. You could actually make the argument Augsburg is a bit imbalanced given how much their offense depends on Scott throwing & running. UST and Bethel both have multiple running backs and WR's who are significant contributors.

And as to the All American TE for Augsburg. He's a very solid receiving option. But he's not really a TE aside from how he's listed in the roster and program. I tried to watch on Saturday and I'm not sure I saw him lined up as an inline blocker and traditional TE the entire game. He was constantly (exclusively??) in the slot. Maybe that was just their game plan against Bethel. But I'm guessing this is how he's typically used. He's a good receiver, but by being labeled a TE, it makes the receiving stats pop more than they would if he was being compared apples to apples to other players who line up 90% of the time in the slot. When I think of AA caliber TE's I think Augsburg's Newman from a few years ago was much more deserving. Devastating blocker, goods hands and athletic enough to create after the play.

Rk    Name           gp          rush          pass           tot off          ypg
1     St. Thomas    4          947         1039           1976      496.5
2     Bethel            4            910         1006          1916      479.0
3     Augsburg    4          847           994          1841             460.2
4    Gustavus      4          774           853           1627      406.8
5    Concordia    4          806           816          1622      405.5
6     Hamline            4              891           703          1594             398.5
7     Saint John's    5          704         1124           1828      365.6
8    St. Olaf            5          336         1180           1516      303.2
9    Carleton            4          420           776          1196          299.0

...just looking for the most balanced offense. Of course, this only reflects overall run / pass balance, and not how much each facet is spread out among several players. Cobbers are actually getting more through the air than on the ground (barely) so far, which would no doubt surprise those accustomed to the old pile of dust attack.

Sorry about the dancing columns...it looks good in the preview.

[sjusection105]

I wonder how U$Td will look at the end of the season after playing CCM, BETH, AUG.? The sample size skews in their favor as they have only played SJU & CAR in the MIAC as well as UWRF & UWEC in non-conference. That being said, SJU played the same non-conference schools & are sitting #7 in your example.
That's the long way around to say I wonder how everything shakes out be the end of the season?

[AO]

MIAC PICK-EM'S

Name	W1	W2	W3	W4	W5	W6	W7	W8	W9	W10	W11	Overall
hazzben	14	5	11	10	6	-	-	-	-	-	-	46
miacmaniac	12	6	7	13	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	45
AO	5	11	16	8	4	-	-	-	-	-	-	44
GoldandBlueBU	12	7	8	10	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	44
AlmostEx	10	10	15	4	4	-	-	-	-	-	-	43
Repete	9	12	6	8	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	42
ChicagoTommie	10	10	6	10	5	-	-	-	-	-	-	41
desertcat1	10	5	7	10	9	-	-	-	-	-	-	41
stanbob	9	1	11	10	10	-	-	-	-	-	-	41
art76	7	7	13	7	6	-	-	-	-	-	-	40
OldAuggie	11	0	7	11	10	-	-	-	-	-	-	39
FCGrizzliesGrad	10	7	4	7	10	-	-	-	-	-	-	38
FearTheEar	11	3	8	7	8	-	-	-	-	-	-	37
mr_mom	10	12	3	4	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	36
sju56321	9	7	7	5	8	-	-	-	-	-	-	36
USTBench	4	6	7	11	8	-	-	-	-	-	-	36
finsleft	6	13	7	4	5	-	-	-	-	-	-	35
OzJohnnie	9	7	11	8	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	35
jayhawkdaddy	10	2	3	5	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	27
wm4	10	3	-	-	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	20
ron doney	12	-	6	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	18
raiderguy	-	4	-	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	11
Capn34	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	7

Week 6 October 12

Conference: 3pts
Hamline (+29.5) @ St. Olaf
Augsburg @ St. John's (+4.5)
#5 Bethel @ #22 Concordia (+6.5)
#6 St. Thomas @ Gustavus (+14.5)

Non-Conference: 2 pts
Carleton @ Macalester (+4.5) "Book of Knowledge"

West Region: 1pt
St. Scholastica @ Northwestern (+3.5)

National: 1pt
Rhodes @ Sewanee (+3.5) "Edmund Orgill Trophy"

[hazzben]

Rk    Name           gp          rush          pass           tot off          ypg

8    St. Olaf            5          336         1180           1516      303.2

Wow, St. Olaf's run to pass ratio is really skewed!