FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

The NESCAC not participating in the football playoffs is a "We want to be like the Ivy League" issue.

[hazzben]

I see there's an article on the front page of d3football.com that says there will be 5 pool C spots and not 4 as everyone was previously saying. The article goes into how the misunderstanding happened. The important point being we can go back to cheering for three 9-1 teams now.

Interesting. Anyone know why the NESCAC doesn't accept an auto bid? Is it an academics or budget issue? Good news for the MIAC and the dream of 3 playoff teams.

Definition of Cognitive Dissonance:

It's too taxing academically for the football players. Anything more than 8 games would make it impossible for these student-athletes to fulfill their classroom obligations. But we'll still send our basketball squads out to play multiple games each week and compete in the NCAA tournament. They can handle 25+ contests spanning two semesters 

[SagatagSam]

I see there's an article on the front page of d3football.com that says there will be 5 pool C spots and not 4 as everyone was previously saying. The article goes into how the misunderstanding happened. The important point being we can go back to cheering for three 9-1 teams now.

Interesting. Anyone know why the NESCAC doesn't accept an auto bid? Is it an academics or budget issue? Good news for the MIAC and the dream of 3 playoff teams.

Definition of Cognitive Dissonance:

It's too taxing academically for the football players. Anything more than 8 games would make it impossible for these student-athletes to fulfill their classroom obligations. But we'll still send our basketball squads out to play multiple games each week and compete in the NCAA tournament. They can handle 25+ contests spanning two semesters 

So, my question is if a NESCAC team receives a pool C bid, are they allowed to accept it? Or do league rules prohibit any playoff (football) competition?

[02 Warhawk]

Interesting. Anyone know why the NESCAC doesn't accept an auto bid? Is it an academics or budget issue? Good news for the MIAC and the dream of 3 playoff teams.

Definitely not a budget issue.  Also pretty silly to think that 1 team playing 1 more game on a Saturday would be an academic issue.

I asked the NESCAC board this question a while back, and they talked about how the conference only allows teams to practice a certain number of hours per week. The administration would much rather have their students in the classroom than the practice field. So they would rather not play a school outside the conference, because they would be at a severe disadvantage.

However the NESCAC basketball (and baseball) programs are some of the best in the country....not sure why they draw the line with football.

It's almost like they assume they won't win...so they don't even want to try. 

[02 Warhawk]

I see there's an article on the front page of d3football.com that says there will be 5 pool C spots and not 4 as everyone was previously saying. The article goes into how the misunderstanding happened. The important point being we can go back to cheering for three 9-1 teams now.

Interesting. Anyone know why the NESCAC doesn't accept an auto bid? Is it an academics or budget issue? Good news for the MIAC and the dream of 3 playoff teams.

Definition of Cognitive Dissonance:

It's too taxing academically for the football players. Anything more than 8 games would make it impossible for these student-athletes to fulfill their classroom obligations. But we'll still send our basketball squads out to play multiple games each week and compete in the NCAA tournament. They can handle 25+ contests spanning two semesters 

So, my question is if a NESCAC team receives a pool C bid, are they allowed to accept it? Or do league rules prohibit any playoff (football) competition?

The NESCAC will not allow the school to accept the offer.

[OldAuggie]

Finally, I think the tourney is going to have a distinct mid-west feel about it this year as I suspect that there will be three 10 and 0 teams, one each from the MIAC, WIAC and CCIW. I also suspect that there will be three 9 and 1 teams from each of those conferences all ranked in the top 25. I'll go on record as stating the obvious, that there will be no 8 and 2 Pool C teams in the tourney this year.

Oh sure and now I imagine you will tell us there is no Santa Claus.

[02 Warhawk]

Finally, I think the tourney is going to have a distinct mid-west feel about it this year as I suspect that there will be three 10 and 0 teams, one each from the MIAC, WIAC and CCIW. I also suspect that there will be three 9 and 1 teams from each of those conferences all ranked in the top 25. I'll go on record as stating the obvious, that there will be no 8 and 2 Pool C teams in the tourney this year.

I'll second that. That second loss is a death wish this season. It'll be strange to see UST and Wesley out of the post season this year (Much like UWW last year).

[hazzben]

So, my question is if a NESCAC team receives a pool C bid, are they allowed to accept it? Or do league rules prohibit any playoff (football) competition?

The NESCAC will not allow the school to accept the offer.

To ask from another angle...Could a team, say Trinity, simply say we're going, screw what the conference says? Put another way, who accepts the bid, the team or the conference? If it's the latter, then it's not even possible. If it's the former, a team could technically accept and face the wrath of the conference, along with the consequences. I have no idea which one it is...

[Retired Old Rat]

Finally, I think the tourney is going to have a distinct mid-west feel about it this year as I suspect that there will be three 10 and 0 teams, one each from the MIAC, WIAC and CCIW. I also suspect that there will be three 9 and 1 teams from each of those conferences all ranked in the top 25. I'll go on record as stating the obvious, that there will be no 8 and 2 Pool C teams in the tourney this year.

I'll second that. That second loss is a death wish this season. It'll be strange to see UST and Wesley out of the post season this year (Much like UWW last year).

Not really, in the case of St. Thomas.  They're a relative newbie, first appearance being 2009.

[SJUrube]

The NESCAC not participating in the football playoffs is a "We want to be like the Ivy League" issue.

Does that also explain the history of Carleton & MAC football.

[02 Warhawk]

Finally, I think the tourney is going to have a distinct mid-west feel about it this year as I suspect that there will be three 10 and 0 teams, one each from the MIAC, WIAC and CCIW. I also suspect that there will be three 9 and 1 teams from each of those conferences all ranked in the top 25. I'll go on record as stating the obvious, that there will be no 8 and 2 Pool C teams in the tourney this year.

I'll second that. That second loss is a death wish this season. It'll be strange to see UST and Wesley out of the post season this year (Much like UWW last year).

Not really, in the case of St. Thomas.  They're a relative newbie, first appearance being 2009.

Good point

[AO]

MIAC PICK'EMS

Name	W1	W2	W3	W4	W5	W6	W7	W8	W9	W10	W11	Overall
AlmostEx	10	10	15	4	4	10	16	-	-	-	-	69
hazzben	14	5	11	10	6	9	14	-	-	-	-	69
Repete	9	12	6	8	7	10	15	-	-	-	-	67
FCGrizzliesGrad	10	7	4	7	10	12	16	-	-	-	-	66
miacmaniac	12	6	7	13	7	7	13	-	-	-	-	65
AO	5	11	16	8	4	13	7	-	-	-	-	64
GoldandBlueBU	12	7	8	10	7	10	9	-	-	-	-	63
stanbob	9	1	11	10	10	10	12	-	-	-	-	63
desertcat1	10	5	7	10	9	10	11	-	-	-	-	62
mr_mom	10	12	3	4	7	10	15	-	-	-	-	61
OldAuggie	11	0	7	11	10	5	14	-	-	-	-	58
art76	7	7	13	7	6	3	12	-	-	-	-	55
OzJohnnie	9	7	11	8	-	10	10	-	-	-	-	55
sju56321	9	7	7	5	8	7	12	-	-	-	-	55
ChicagoTommie	10	10	6	10	5	7	6	-	-	-	-	54
FearTheEar	11	3	8	7	8	7	9	-	-	-	-	53
finsleft	6	13	7	4	5	8	10	-	-	-	-	53
USTBench	4	6	7	11	8	7	6	-	-	-	-	49
jayhawkdaddy	10	2	3	5	7	12	8	-	-	-	-	47
wm4	10	3	-	-	7	6	7	-	-	-	-	33
ron doney	12	-	6	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	18
raiderguy	-	4	-	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	11
Capn34	7	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	-	7

Week 8 October 26

Rivalry: 4pts
Carleton (+3.5) @ St. Olaf "The Goat"

Conference: 3pts
Augsburg (+9.5) @ #22 Concordia
Gustavus (+12.5) @ #5 Bethel
Hamline (+45.5) @ #15 St. Thomas

West Region: 1pt
#7 UW-Whitewater @ #9 UW-Oshkosh (+9.5)

National: 1pt
#10 Wheaton @ #20 Illinois Wesleyan (+10.5)

[ron doney]

Finally, I think the tourney is going to have a distinct mid-west feel about it this year as I suspect that there will be three 10 and 0 teams, one each from the MIAC, WIAC and CCIW. I also suspect that there will be three 9 and 1 teams from each of those conferences all ranked in the top 25. I'll go on record as stating the obvious, that there will be no 8 and 2 Pool C teams in the tourney this year.

I'll second that. That second loss is a death wish this season. It'll be strange to see UST and Wesley out of the post season this year (Much like UWW last year).

Not really, in the case of St. Thomas.  They're a relative newbie, first appearance being 2009.

Good point

Funny he didn't say.....(much like SJ1 the last 4 years).

I'll take relative newbie as a compliment, in the vein of its what you've done for me lately that matters. 

And if we finish 7-3 this year, well that will be on par with SJ1's 2004 record, so can't be that down of a year. 

[OzJohnnie]

Finally, I think the tourney is going to have a distinct mid-west feel about it this year as I suspect that there will be three 10 and 0 teams, one each from the MIAC, WIAC and CCIW. I also suspect that there will be three 9 and 1 teams from each of those conferences all ranked in the top 25. I'll go on record as stating the obvious, that there will be no 8 and 2 Pool C teams in the tourney this year.

I'll second that. That second loss is a death wish this season. It'll be strange to see UST and Wesley out of the post season this year (Much like UWW last year).

Not really, in the case of St. Thomas.  They're a relative newbie, first appearance being 2009.

Good point

I'm hoping that SJU follows Linfield's example of being four or five years in the wilderness and the three or so years and back to the top of the pile. It's hard to remember those Linfield wilderness years as an outsider now. I'm sure Linfield's supporters remember well enough, but it's all forgotten by me as I see them up on top of the rankings.

[sju56321]

04 was a very down year-don't kid yourself.