FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[hazzben]

This week St. Thomas is at home and takes it out on poor Hamline in front of their fans. And maybe a demoralized Tommies team takes the field and Hamline gives them a run for the money because Caruso uses the game to develop some fresh faces on the squad in preparation for next year's run.

To me, this is one thing we've failed to mention about UST this year. No question, one of the major disappointments in St. Paul right now is that they've essentially squandered a very favorable schedule. Of the top teams, they've had the easiest route to navigate. Every tough game and team is followed by a bye or a lesser team. UWEC, then UWRF. SJU, bye then Carleton. Bethel leads into Hamline.

Compare it to Bethel (a stretch of Aug, CM, UST, GAC), SJU (UWEC, UST, CM), Augsburg (Bethel, SJU, STO, CM, UST) and maybe even CM (SJU, BU...UST, GAC) .

[cobbernation]

105,

It's Hebrink.

Thanks CN. What I remember of him was that he was a stud, I believe multiple winner of the MIAC MVP and from a small town in west central Minnesota,possibly Sacred Heart. He could run the Army Split Bone offense to perfection and gave the Johnnies nightmares.
Don't make your appearances so far between- we appreciate your input and all things Cobber and Montana related.

Speaking of Montana, is there D3 in Montana? If not, could this be a contributing factor as to why The Cobbs seem to have a pipeline from there to Moorhead?

105,

No D3 in Montana.  Only FCS (formerly D1-AA with U of MT and Montana St.) and NAIA schools.  Check out Carroll College in Helena.  Great Catholic school that make a deep run into the football playoffs on a yearly basis with national titles to boast.

The pipeline from MT to Moorhead is a good one.  It gives players a chance to keep their football playing days alive while getting a good education.  Kids from MT don't want to be in North Dakota and don't want to travel more than 10 miles after having to drive thru ND.     Believe it or not with the funding I received from CC, it was cheaper to go to school in MN than to any school in MT.

[sjusection105]

No D3 in Montana.  Only FCS (formerly D1-AA with U of MT and Montana St.) and NAIA schools.  Check out Carroll College in Helena.  Great Catholic school that make a deep run into the football playoffs on a yearly basis with national titles to boast.

The pipeline from MT to Moorhead is a good one.  It gives players a chance to keep their football playing days alive while getting a good education.  Kids from MT don't want to be in North Dakota and don't want to travel more than 10 miles after having to drive thru ND.     Believe it or not with the funding I received from CC, it was cheaper to go to school in MN than to any school in MT.

* Also the place where John Gagliardi got his college football coaching start,at age 22 after coaching H.S. football for 6 years (a couple years he was a player/coach as the coach,along with most other men in his town in Colorado were drafted into WWII)

[USTBench]

105,

It's Hebrink.

Thanks CN. What I remember of him was that he was a stud, I believe multiple winner of the MIAC MVP and from a small town in west central Minnesota,possibly Sacred Heart. He could run the Army Split Bone offense to perfection and gave the Johnnies nightmares.
Don't make your appearances so far between- we appreciate your input and all things Cobber and Montana related.

Speaking of Montana, is there D3 in Montana? If not, could this be a contributing factor as to why The Cobbs seem to have a pipeline from there to Moorhead?

For reasons beyond my understanding, North Dakota and Montana have chosen to have their smaller schools align with the NAIA. Carroll College is a national power in the NAIA and have an absolutely beautiful backdrop for small college football. I think it would be awesome if what was left of the old DAC - 10 got together with the Montana schools and joined D3 together.

West: Carroll, Dickinson St., Montana Western, Montana Northern, Montana Tech and Rocky Mountain
East: Jamestown College, Mayville State, Valley City State, Dakota State, Dakota Wesleyan and Presentation

It would be such a solid D3 conference with regional rivalries already built in. Plus, the non-conference games would bridge the gap between the MIAC and NWC.

It'll never happen, but in my dream scenario it'd be sweet.

[DuffMan]

CN,

We had a guy in working on an instrument at work the other day, and I am pretty sure he was a Cobber player.  Does the name Joel Vettleson ring a bell?  I didn't get a chance to talk to him.

No it doesn't.  What kind of instrumentation?  HPLC or GC?

He might be a bit older than you.  I think he's a year or two older than I am.  I'll make an effort to talk to him next time.  It was a GC that he was working on.

[AO]

For reasons beyond my understanding, North Dakota and Montana have chosen to have their smaller schools align with the NAIA. Carroll College is a national power in the NAIA and have an absolutely beautiful backdrop for small college football. I think it would be awesome if what was left of the old DAC - 10 got together with the Montana schools and joined D3 together.

Presentation had difficulty keeping up with the D3 sport requirements as I believe they couldn't get enough girls to run cross country.  It can get pretty difficult to recruit to small towns in the Dakotas if you don't have any scholarship money to throw around.

[USTBench]

For reasons beyond my understanding, North Dakota and Montana have chosen to have their smaller schools align with the NAIA. Carroll College is a national power in the NAIA and have an absolutely beautiful backdrop for small college football. I think it would be awesome if what was left of the old DAC - 10 got together with the Montana schools and joined D3 together.

Presentation had difficulty keeping up with the D3 sport requirements as I believe they couldn't get enough girls to run cross country.  It can get pretty difficult to recruit to small towns in the Dakotas if you don't have any scholarship money to throw around.

I can certainly see Mayville St. and Presentation having difficulty keeping up with VCSU, Dickinson State and Jamestown College. Too bad you can't do a football only affiliation.

[DoubleO]

these parents better hope their kid never plays a game vs an MIAC team:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/us/2013/10/22/dnt-football-team-accused-bullying-after-outrageous-score.ktvt&iref=allsearch

they'd probably be seeking federal protection!

I gotta say I'm really unimpressed by this soft gloves treatment people are asking for. Getting thrashed is an important lesson - dealing with adversity and disappointment. Also in order to bring the bottom up they are pulling the top down. That, too, is a bad lesson although maybe with fewer hut feelings. Maybe all the more nefarious because of its non-hurtful nature.

Oz,
You have been away from the USA for  too long. I agree with your statement,but we now live in an America that does not resemble the America we grew up in. This is an America where everyone gets a ribbon and Little League teams do not keep score and everyone bats every inning.Two weeks ago a Connecticut middle school banned the following on the playground at recess: " footballs, soccer balls, LaCrosse balls,baseballs, the game of tag, cartwheels" because theses activities are too dangerous.
As my old man would put it "the country is going to hell in a hand basket". We are experiencing the whoosification of America and I shutter to see what it looks like 30 years from now.

Sadly, Amen. I'm younger and can still see it. What scares me is what this means for our nation if there were to be a situation of large-scale war. History shows us conflicts aren't going anywhere. And the saltiness of the dough-goys and G.I.'s was honed by their upbringing.

Our military is still filled with fine men of that caliber. If you need evidence let me suggest reading the following: The Warrior Elite or Lone Survivor. But what happens if we had to go back to a draft in a time of severe need? What quality American will we be calling into service in such a situation? Our coddling culture won't serve us in these environments.

And that says nothing about what it means in the marketplace...I digress 

HB-I LOVE Lone Survivor-have been recommending it for years. I actually ran into Marcus at a bar in the Marriott in Palm Desert, CA. and had the chance to have a few suds with him. He's as solid of a guy as you would imagine. I can't wait for the movie to come out. I'm actually 3/4 of the way through Feerless and recommend it as well. These guys are the real heroes our kids should be looking up to.

CT-you're not the "lone Republican" here. I'm looking forward to meeting the new President, Dr. Julie Sullivan on 11/19 at the East Bank Club. Any chance you'll be in attendance? I've heard good things about her. I have a buddy whose brother coaches basketball at the University of San Diego (where she came from) who said she's a big proponent for athletics and said she did alot of positive things for them at USD. I hope that rings true as both Fr. Dease and Dienhart left big shoes to fill in that regard.

[SJUrube]

No D3 in Montana.  Only FCS (formerly D1-AA with U of MT and Montana St.) and NAIA schools.  Check out Carroll College in Helena.  Great Catholic school that make a deep run into the football playoffs on a yearly basis with national titles to boast.

The pipeline from MT to Moorhead is a good one.  It gives players a chance to keep their football playing days alive while getting a good education.  Kids from MT don't want to be in North Dakota and don't want to travel more than 10 miles after having to drive thru ND.     Believe it or not with the funding I received from CC, it was cheaper to go to school in MN than to any school in MT.

* Also the place where John Gagliardi got his college football coaching start,at age 22 after coaching H.S. football for 6 years (a couple years he was a player/coach as the coach,along with most other men in his town in Colorado were drafted into WWII)

You don't say. The same one who retired as the winningest coach in college football history with 489 wins? That John Gagliardi? #JohnnieSmokefest

[faunch]

For reasons beyond my understanding, North Dakota and Montana have chosen to have their smaller schools align with the NAIA. Carroll College is a national power in the NAIA and have an absolutely beautiful backdrop for small college football. I think it would be awesome if what was left of the old DAC - 10 got together with the Montana schools and joined D3 together.

Presentation had difficulty keeping up with the D3 sport requirements as I believe they couldn't get enough girls to run cross country.  It can get pretty difficult to recruit to small towns in the Dakotas if you don't have any scholarship money to throw around.

I can certainly see Mayville St. and Presentation having difficulty keeping up with VCSU, Dickinson State and Jamestown College. Too bad you can't do a football only affiliation.

I hear Dickinson girls are easy.

[ron doney]

Yeah, figured the question people would be asking about Caruso this year was: Will he leave for another job?

Instead it might be: Has the game passed him by?

No offense intended and I know many like to pile on St Thomas but that is just silly.

That must be the sound of the smoke alarm.  +k

[sfury]

Yeah, figured the question people would be asking about Caruso this year was: Will he leave for another job?

Instead it might be: Has the game passed him by?

No offense intended and I know many like to pile on St Thomas but that is just silly.

That must be the sound of the smoke alarm.  +k

Keep in mind, I'm not saying it's true. Just asking questions and want to make sure his legacy isn't damaged.

[GoldandBlueBU]

Have you ever put down a horse?  I have and it quivers and shakes, looking for anything to grasp on to both physically and mentally.  That's what we have here.

The good reverend sure has been quiet lately.

Can't imagine what led to that.

I will admit to occasionally getting a laugh out of his posts.

[ron doney]

04 was a very down year-don't kid yourself.

And yet at the beginning of this year we would have taken 7-3 with enthusiasm.  Funny how perspective changes.  Now 8-2 will be ok and 9-1 will be great.  7-3 will be a let down.  No one said that pleasing fans was easy.

What really crawls under the skin of the folks on the corner of Cretin and Summit is how this season was supposed to be a coronation for the Toms. Here we are six weeks into the season and the Toms already have two conference losses and could realistically miss the playoffs.

Have you ever put down a horse?  I have and it quivers and shakes, looking for anything to grasp on to both physically and mentally.  That's what we have here.

I love it.

SagelessSam - this would have been funnier had you not blown your load so quickly.  2 losses is a long way from a 4 year stretch of irrelevance.  The UST program is being built for the long term*, so this horse is still very much alive and kicking. 

If the idea of not meeting expectations is clever, then SJ1 ought to be awfully careful about throwing stones.

*When you think about if SJ1 was being built for for the long term in the early 2000's, what can you point to other than its long term coach?  Relative to Mount Union, it appears SJ1 didn't have much of a long term program, other than its head coach, for all those years.  Fasching appears to be changing that....so props to him.

[sjusection105]

@ SJUrube Yea, I'm pretty sure that's the same guy,but you may want to have Frank confirm this information on Monday during his Live Chat. It goes without saying that Frank will confirm this information without caveat. #JohnnieSmokefest