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[skunks_sidekick]

Anybody mention on the field goal block Bethels #18 clips I think #98 on the run back.  Just noticed it looking at the video on Bethels site.  Looks like you got away with a big one.

Seriously  This is the most ridiculously and comical statement about a blown call I've ever seen. Watch the video for yourselves.

For the sake of everyone who ever has or will participate in organized sports, I hope you never put on stripes.    That would have been the worst block in the back call of all time. Having watched it 4 or 5 times now, I'm seriously dumbfounded where you see any infraction. Am I missing the sarcasm here?

Its a push in the back.  Its poor blocking technique.  All he has to do is run in front of the player or to the side.  But your nuts if you say pushing a guy in the back #98 who just misses the tackle at the goal line isn't a foul your nuts.  Yes a lot of calls always get missed but it was a foul.  My critique comes from players today especially offensive linemen who foul on almost every play.  There is an art to blocking even down field as  I was a pulling guard in a wishbone veer option team who most of the time beat the rb to the end zone while making 3 plus blocks.  You dont have to touch a person on that type of play to block them but we come from different eras and I am all about technique first.

You sir, are clueless! I'll let the video do my talking. 

Your the person who either doesn't know a foul or is lying.  A push in the back which is clearly there is a foul.  Its on the video clear as day.  #18 pushing #98 in the back.  Thats whats wrong with this generation they believe lies. and lies to themselves.
Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue,....

The legal block occurs 5 yards ahead of the ball-carrier.  You can't just turn your back or side when you see a blocker coming and expect a call.

I have the picture but do not know how to post it.

Oh no!!!!  Thunder Mom's off-spring rears his/her ugly head!!!!  RUN!!!!!   

[shepherd]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

[RoyalsFan]

Anybody mention on the field goal block Bethels #18 clips I think #98 on the run back.  Just noticed it looking at the video on Bethels site.  Looks like you got away with a big one.

Seriously  This is the most ridiculously and comical statement about a blown call I've ever seen. Watch the video for yourselves.

For the sake of everyone who ever has or will participate in organized sports, I hope you never put on stripes.    That would have been the worst block in the back call of all time. Having watched it 4 or 5 times now, I'm seriously dumbfounded where you see any infraction. Am I missing the sarcasm here?

Its a push in the back.  Its poor blocking technique.  All he has to do is run in front of the player or to the side.  But your nuts if you say pushing a guy in the back #98 who just misses the tackle at the goal line isn't a foul your nuts.  Yes a lot of calls always get missed but it was a foul.  My critique comes from players today especially offensive linemen who foul on almost every play.  There is an art to blocking even down field as  I was a pulling guard in a wishbone veer option team who most of the time beat the rb to the end zone while making 3 plus blocks.  You dont have to touch a person on that type of play to block them but we come from different eras and I am all about technique first.

You sir, are clueless! I'll let the video do my talking. 

Your the person who either doesn't know a foul or is lying.  A push in the back which is clearly there is a foul.  Its on the video clear as day.  #18 pushing #98 in the back.  Thats whats wrong with this generation they believe lies. and lies to themselves.
Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue,....

That was in no way a block in the back. The defender is actually stiff arming the blocker and the blocker has his left hand on the defender's chest and his right hand on his hip/side. This was more of a push from the side, not the back. Also, the defender saw the blocker coming and turned his back to the blocker which negates any block in the back even if there was a block in the back, which there wasn't. There is no way an official is going to call this a block in the back.

I also am not sure why you are making such a big deal out of it since the 2 points didn't factor into the outcome of the game. Wartburg still needed a td at the end of the game to tie (or win if they had called a penalty on that play) and it didn't happen. 

[hazzben]

Anybody mention on the field goal block Bethels #18 clips I think #98 on the run back.  Just noticed it looking at the video on Bethels site.  Looks like you got away with a big one.

Seriously  This is the most ridiculously and comical statement about a blown call I've ever seen. Watch the video for yourselves.

For the sake of everyone who ever has or will participate in organized sports, I hope you never put on stripes.    That would have been the worst block in the back call of all time. Having watched it 4 or 5 times now, I'm seriously dumbfounded where you see any infraction. Am I missing the sarcasm here?

Its a push in the back.  Its poor blocking technique.  All he has to do is run in front of the player or to the side.  But your nuts if you say pushing a guy in the back #98 who just misses the tackle at the goal line isn't a foul your nuts.  Yes a lot of calls always get missed but it was a foul.  My critique comes from players today especially offensive linemen who foul on almost every play.  There is an art to blocking even down field as  I was a pulling guard in a wishbone veer option team who most of the time beat the rb to the end zone while making 3 plus blocks.  You dont have to touch a person on that type of play to block them but we come from different eras and I am all about technique first.

You sir, are clueless! I'll let the video do my talking. 

Your the person who either doesn't know a foul or is lying.  A push in the back which is clearly there is a foul.  Its on the video clear as day.  #18 pushing #98 in the back.  Thats whats wrong with this generation they believe lies. and lies to themselves.
Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue,....

The legal block occurs 5 yards ahead of the ball-carrier.  You can't just turn your back or side when you see a blocker coming and expect a call.

I have the picture but do not know how to post it.

Who cares about a pic when we have video from TWO angles (wide and tight).

There is nothing dishonest in my post. I'm not lying. It's clearly a legal block.

Slander/libel on the other hand, now that's a plank to rip out of your eye kind sir.

[BDB]

I wasted 5 minutes of my time watching that video. There was no clip and no penalty should have been called.

I just got home from attending the Wartburg-UW Stout men's basketball game and that Wartburg team was tough and would never whine about something like this. I doubt their football team did either.

[art76]

In other news:

Hats off to the Wartburg Knights who fought valiantly (trying very much to NOT sound like something that might have been said in the mid-1300's). I haven't even seen a clip yet as where I am I cannot stream video - hopefully later tonight when I finally get home. Sounds like it was a great game to be at - I am envious of all that could be there in person.

I am eating a bit of crow, as I really thought Bethel would score fast and furious to put the game out of reach early - and that clearly did not happen - kudos to Wartburg!

With Peterson out for the remainder of the season, however long that might be for the Royals, I think Bethel still has a shot to win against the remaining opponents. "It ain't over 'til it's over" - rings true for all the remaining 8 teams left.

Lastly, I suspect that BU knows that parking on campus next Saturday will be premium and I will not be surprised at a change in venue for the football game. Logistically it makes the most sense. You can play a college football game at any other college football stadium and you cannot perform musical pieces that have choreographed action just anywhere else. Lastly. the game is mandated by the NCAA to start at noon. The Festival of Christmas is scheduled to start at 2:00 pm. There is no way to get all those football fans to park somewhere else when all those parking spots will be open at the beginning of the game. If you do not move the game - it will be a nightmare for the folks in PR.

If St. Thomas is not available, Crown has a new stadium that might be. I'm guessing we'll hear something soon about where the game will be played.

[Pat Coleman]

Crown is really far out and would not be able to handle the demand for this game. Nice thought, though.

[RoyalsFan]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Ok, where is his left hand? It's on the front side of the defender. If any part of a blocker is in front - then NO BLOCK IN THE BACK. You should just give it up - you are the only one here that thinks this was a block in the back.

[SagatagSam]

There's only one man to determine if this no call on the alleged block in the back is a conspiracy or not...


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See this story and more on this season of "Conspiracy Theory" as Ventura investigates a top secret government sponsored time travel program, an operational death ray, the remnants of an alien battleground, and the underground bunkers of an ancient race of half human/half reptiles.

[Stagg Again!!]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Ok, where is his left hand? It's on the front side of the defender. If any part of a blocker is in front - then NO BLOCK IN THE BACK. You should just give it up - you are the only one here that thinks this was a block in the back.

I have no dog in the hunt, but watched the clip several times and did not see a penalty that should have been called.  I can imagine, however, that there are officials who would have thrown a flag depending on their angle, how long they saw the play, and what part of the play they saw.  Without video replay, we in DIII are always at the mercy of the officiating crew.  Here's to having a great crew at the game this coming Saturday!!

[OzJohnnie]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Liar?  That's a pretty heady accusation from a dimwit.

[OzJohnnie]

I swear, BU, that if you lose this weekend and this is the best of the post-season cross board banter we get then I'll revoke your post season privileges.  Playoff season comes with a bigger responsibility than just winning games.

[RoyalsFan]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

Ok, where is his left hand? It's on the front side of the defender. If any part of a blocker is in front - then NO BLOCK IN THE BACK. You should just give it up - you are the only one here that thinks this was a block in the back.

I have no dog in the hunt, but watched the clip several times and did not see a penalty that should have been called.  I can imagine, however, that there are officials who would have thrown a flag depending on their angle, how long they saw the play, and what part of the play they saw.  Without video replay, we in DIII are always at the mercy of the officiating crew.  Here's to having a great crew at the game this coming Saturday!!

Hear, hear. It would also be nice if the officials know the rules. I realize this is DIII and refs don't get paid a whole lot, but it is their job to know the rules. I was really surprised after the blocked PAT was returned that all the officials huddled together and came to the conclusion that Bethel should be awarded only 1 point instead of 2. Even I know that there are only 2 ways get a single point in football, either a successful PAT or a safety on a PAT (or 2 point conversion) attempt. You've got what, 7 officials and none of them knew that it should have been 2 points?

I wonder what would have happened if someone from Bethel hadn't gotten confirmation and they had left it at 1 point and Wartburg would have scored a td at the end of the game and then kicked the extra point to win 34-33. Fortunately it didn't happen, but if it had then I'm sure all they would have done afterwards is say oops, we made a mistake but there isn't anything we can do about it. It really would have been a shame if Bethel had lost because of it.

[RoyalsFan]

I swear, BU, that if you lose this weekend and this is the best of the post-season cross board banter we get then I'll revoke your post season privileges.  Playoff season comes with a bigger responsibility than just winning games.

Well Oz, since Bethel is representing the MIAC in the playoffs, I think it is just as much your responsibility to support the MIAC and not just up to BU posters. And I know you can heat things up. 

[nccfac]

Here is the proof.  Pushing on the back.

Click to enlarge!   100% proof
Royals if thats the side your a Liar!

I have no side in this fight other than to explain what the referees would be looking and it is not this single frame.
That's not when he originally hit him.

From the D3 rule book -  Block in the Back
ARTICLE 4. a. A block in the back is contact against an opponent occurring
when the force of the initial contact is from behind and above the waist. When
in question, the contact is below the waist (Rule 9-3-3-c) (A.R. 9-3-3-I, -VII
and A.R. 10-2-2-XII). 
  Look at the video again and you can see that he hits him on the front of his jersey first and as the player continues on he puts his hand on his hip. It is no block from behind.