FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[ChicagoTommie]

What's the skinny on Peterson - anyone got any inside info? As I have perused the other boards, most are predicting a NCC win because he is out of the line up. Others are complaining about the probable field condition and parking. We need someone from on campus that has info to spill.

No, let's not give the skinny on Peterson!! Even if someone has the inside scoop on whether he will or won't play, why would we want to make that public knowledge and help NCC game plan 

REPEAT...If someone has inside info, keep it private and off the boards. Let's all swallow our curiosity for the good of the team here fellas!

You Mean Adrian Peterson is playing right? that's what I heard

[desertcat1]

What's the skinny on Peterson - anyone got any inside info? As I have perused the other boards, most are predicting a NCC win because he is out of the line up. Others are complaining about the probable field condition and parking. We need someone from on campus that has info to spill.

No, let's not give the skinny on Peterson!! Even if someone has the inside scoop on whether he will or won't play, why would we want to make that public knowledge and help NCC game plan 

REPEAT...If someone has inside info, keep it private and off the boards. Let's all swallow our curiosity for the good of the team here fellas!

[Stagg Again!!]

What's the skinny on Peterson - anyone got any inside info? As I have perused the other boards, most are predicting a NCC win because he is out of the line up. Others are complaining about the probable field condition and parking. We need someone from on campus that has info to spill. I'm not a twitterer so I've not seen a picture of the supposed cover over the field - can someone copy and paste to this board - or share a link? Looks to be bitterly cold on Saturday. I am really hoping this is a game that Bethel gets control of early and forces NCC to adjust and not vice-versa. The Royals need to come together around their new QB to show that the Wartburg finish was not a fluke.

Now, can you send us the X-Ray from Peterson's shoulder?   

[art76]

New topic - perhaps less contentious - how is Bethel going to beat North Central? What does BU need to do against them? (I mean beyond the cliché "we have to stop the run/pass and make them one dimensional".) For instance, Bethel has a habit this year of starting in pretty good field position after kick offs and punts - at least in the games I saw. Some time in the stat charts may make that previous statement seem a bit irrelevant - I just don't know honestly. What about BU's yards after catches? If the Royals can average such and such then they stand a good chance of defeating the Cardinals. Conversely, are there inherit weaknesses on the NCC side that we should watch for to know they are in trouble? Like, they start to line up in a Wing T or double flanker set - does those kind of things indicate anything? I want to be a more informed fan to better see the nuance of the game being played out on the field.

[art76]

Get your calendars out, here are the 2014 and 2015 SJU football schedules!

http://www.gojohnnies.com/sports/2008/10/16/FOOTBALL_1016085736.aspx

I have a question maybe someone here can answer. Looking at SJU's schedule for next year, 5 out of the 8 MIAC games are at the same location as this year (at St. Thomas, at St. Olaf, at Gustavus and home games against Bethel and Hamline). Why don't they just alternate locations each year?

I also noticed that they put the first round playoff game on the schedules. At least they didn't list it as a home game. 

I believe all scheduling oddities can be attributed to Macalester leaving the conference in football at the end of 2001.

I can see where that could affect things for a few years, but that was 13 years ago. Just looking at Bethel and SJU, they have alternated every year for the last 6 years, so I doubt Macalester is the reason BU will be playing at SJU again next year. There has to be another reason.

Why, to save the grass at Bremer field in Arden Hills for the playoffs - of course. 

[robertgoulet]

New topic - perhaps less contentious - how is Bethel going to beat North Central? What does BU need to do against them? (I mean beyond the cliché "we have to stop the run/pass and make them one dimensional".) For instance, Bethel has a habit this year of starting in pretty good field position after kick offs and punts - at least in the games I saw. Some time in the stat charts may make that previous statement seem a bit irrelevant - I just don't know honestly. What about BU's yards after catches? If the Royals can average such and such then they stand a good chance of defeating the Cardinals. Conversely, are there inherit weaknesses on the NCC side that we should watch for to know they are in trouble? Like, they start to line up in a Wing T or double flanker set - does those kind of things indicate anything? I want to be a more informed fan to better see the nuance of the game being played out on the field.

In playoff performances past, the key to beating NCC was turning them over (Stanek was turnover prone in big games in his early years). Stanek only has 1 INT this season, so it appears that those problems are behind him, but you never know. BU would appear to have the best D that NCC will have faced all year, combine that with the cold and you'd think that would be a recipe for a few errant passes.

In prior years, NCC has also had trouble with teams that can execute the short, quick passing scheme and keep their front 4 from getting home. They've also had a penchant for letting QBs get loose outside of the pocket, IMO. The MLB (Slezak) moved to the position this year after being a Safety in previous seasons. He's not as good against the run as MLBs past (NCC has had some dominant ones), but he's arguably better against the pass (that statement may seem to indicate that he's only a pretty good player, but he was the CCIW DPOY this season) so they may not be as susceptible against the short passing game as they used to be, but may be more susceptible to a power run game than in years past.

How are the QBs of BU in regards to their scrambling ability? How is the running game?

Edit: Actually wondering if I should have kept this private and off the boards, as to not give BU an advantage!

[D O.C.]

2015 SJU football schedule

We'll take the 12th.

[GoldandBlueBU]

New topic - perhaps less contentious - how is Bethel going to beat North Central? What does BU need to do against them? (I mean beyond the cliché "we have to stop the run/pass and make them one dimensional".) For instance, Bethel has a habit this year of starting in pretty good field position after kick offs and punts - at least in the games I saw. Some time in the stat charts may make that previous statement seem a bit irrelevant - I just don't know honestly. What about BU's yards after catches? If the Royals can average such and such then they stand a good chance of defeating the Cardinals. Conversely, are there inherit weaknesses on the NCC side that we should watch for to know they are in trouble? Like, they start to line up in a Wing T or double flanker set - does those kind of things indicate anything? I want to be a more informed fan to better see the nuance of the game being played out on the field.

In playoff performances past, the key to beating NCC was turning them over (Stanek was turnover prone in big games in his early years). Stanek only has 1 INT this season, so it appears that those problems are behind him, but you never know. BU would appear to have the best D that NCC will have faced all year, combine that with the cold and you'd think that would be a recipe for errant passes.

NCC has also had trouble with teams that can execute the short, quick passing scheme and keep their front 4 from getting home. They've also had a penchant for letting QBs get loose outside of the pocket, IMO.

How are the QBs of BU in regards to their scrambling ability?

Edit: Actually wondering if I should have kept this private and off the boards, as to not give BU an advantage!

I don't feel like I'd be revealing anything by saying that Peterson is very mobile.  He's able to get out of the pocket and scramble until there is an open receiver, and also is willing to take off if there is an opportunity.  Designed runs were also very common in their gameplan this year, however, if he does play I can't imagine there'd be many, if any, designed keepers in an effort to keep him from taking hits.

Honestly have no clue about Keefe's running ability.  He hasn't seen a ton of clock, so he is an unknown quantity to a large degree.  We'll probably all find out on Saturday.

[Kovo]

New topic - perhaps less contentious - how is Bethel going to beat North Central? What does BU need to do against them? (I mean beyond the cliché "we have to stop the run/pass and make them one dimensional".) For instance, Bethel has a habit this year of starting in pretty good field position after kick offs and punts - at least in the games I saw. Some time in the stat charts may make that previous statement seem a bit irrelevant - I just don't know honestly. What about BU's yards after catches? If the Royals can average such and such then they stand a good chance of defeating the Cardinals. Conversely, are there inherit weaknesses on the NCC side that we should watch for to know they are in trouble? Like, they start to line up in a Wing T or double flanker set - does those kind of things indicate anything? I want to be a more informed fan to better see the nuance of the game being played out on the field.

In playoff performances past, the key to beating NCC was turning them over (Stanek was turnover prone in big games in his early years). Stanek only has 1 INT this season, so it appears that those problems are behind him, but you never know. BU would appear to have the best D that NCC will have faced all year, combine that with the cold and you'd think that would be a recipe for a few errant passes.

NCC has also had trouble with teams that can execute the short, quick passing scheme and keep their front 4 from getting home. They've also had a penchant for letting QBs get loose outside of the pocket, IMO.

How are the QBs of BU in regards to their scrambling ability?

Edit: Actually wondering if I should have kept this private and off the boards, as to not give BU an advantage!

I'm sure that both coaching staffs haven't slept very much since the playoffs started watching video this week's opponent.  So, I'm not sure that posting on the board is giving one team or the other any advantage.  But, I will say this.  I don't know about BU, but NC is on break so they should have nothing to do but to watch video all day long.

[robertgoulet]

New topic - perhaps less contentious - how is Bethel going to beat North Central? What does BU need to do against them? (I mean beyond the cliché "we have to stop the run/pass and make them one dimensional".) For instance, Bethel has a habit this year of starting in pretty good field position after kick offs and punts - at least in the games I saw. Some time in the stat charts may make that previous statement seem a bit irrelevant - I just don't know honestly. What about BU's yards after catches? If the Royals can average such and such then they stand a good chance of defeating the Cardinals. Conversely, are there inherit weaknesses on the NCC side that we should watch for to know they are in trouble? Like, they start to line up in a Wing T or double flanker set - does those kind of things indicate anything? I want to be a more informed fan to better see the nuance of the game being played out on the field.

In playoff performances past, the key to beating NCC was turning them over (Stanek was turnover prone in big games in his early years). Stanek only has 1 INT this season, so it appears that those problems are behind him, but you never know. BU would appear to have the best D that NCC will have faced all year, combine that with the cold and you'd think that would be a recipe for a few errant passes.

NCC has also had trouble with teams that can execute the short, quick passing scheme and keep their front 4 from getting home. They've also had a penchant for letting QBs get loose outside of the pocket, IMO.

How are the QBs of BU in regards to their scrambling ability?

Edit: Actually wondering if I should have kept this private and off the boards, as to not give BU an advantage!

I'm sure that both coaching staffs haven't slept very much since the playoffs started watching video this week's opponent.  So, I'm not sure that posting on the board is giving one team or the other any advantage.  But, I will say this.  I don't know about BU, but NC is on break so they should have nothing to do but to watch video all day long.

PS4 and Xbox One just came out. They've got plenty else to do!

[USee]

New topic - perhaps less contentious - how is Bethel going to beat North Central? What does BU need to do against them? (I mean beyond the cliché "we have to stop the run/pass and make them one dimensional".) For instance, Bethel has a habit this year of starting in pretty good field position after kick offs and punts - at least in the games I saw. Some time in the stat charts may make that previous statement seem a bit irrelevant - I just don't know honestly. What about BU's yards after catches? If the Royals can average such and such then they stand a good chance of defeating the Cardinals. Conversely, are there inherit weaknesses on the NCC side that we should watch for to know they are in trouble? Like, they start to line up in a Wing T or double flanker set - does those kind of things indicate anything? I want to be a more informed fan to better see the nuance of the game being played out on the field.

In playoff performances past, the key to beating NCC was turning them over (Stanek was turnover prone in big games in his early years). Stanek only has 1 INT this season, so it appears that those problems are behind him, but you never know. BU would appear to have the best D that NCC will have faced all year, combine that with the cold and you'd think that would be a recipe for a few errant passes.

In prior years, NCC has also had trouble with teams that can execute the short, quick passing scheme and keep their front 4 from getting home. They've also had a penchant for letting QBs get loose outside of the pocket, IMO. The MLB (Slezak) moved to the position this year after being a Safety in previous seasons. He's not as good against the run as MLBs past (NCC has had some dominant ones), but he's arguably better against the pass (that statement may seem to indicate that he's only a pretty good player, but he was the CCIW DPOY this season) so they may not be as susceptible against the short passing game as they used to be, but may be more susceptible to a power run game than in years past.

How are the QBs of BU in regards to their scrambling ability? How is the running game?

Edit: Actually wondering if I should have kept this private and off the boards, as to not give BU an advantage!

This is false, at least statistically. I think for NCC the Bethel D will be fairly close to the Wheaton D in both Scheme and physicality. Wheaton is ranked #12 in defense nationally (Bethel is #22). Wheaton held NCC to 379 yds this year but lost 35-16.

Also, Slezak was NOT the DPOY, Shane Dierking  was. 

[hazzben]

Repost from over at the CCIW board:

I think we're all looking at this game the wrong way. Football has always been a sport uniquely played in the elements, come rain, snow, sleet or frozen ground. It's what makes the game great. Muddy jerseys & frozen breath are part of what makes football great and many of the 'classic games' in College & NFL history have involved frozen fields and freezing temps.

I think we embrace it. Our teams get to experience something akin to the Ice Bowl and the old games at Metropolitan stadium and frigid January games at Soldier field. How cool is that?! Is it going to be ridiculously cold...yep. Is the field going to be a frozen factor...yep. And that's what makes the potential for the game to be extra memorable.

Here's a few historic pics of cold weather games to get our blood pumping:

Classic Bethel game v. Augsburg - featured in Sports Illustrated

Cowboys, Roger Staubach & Landry preparing for a cold playoff game v. the Vikings at the old Met

Another couple cold weather playoff game in MN at the Met

Vikings v. 49ers in 69

Michigan v. Penn State in the 1950 Snow Bowl

Snow Bowl pt 2

The Ice Bowl...'nuff said

This gets me pumped. Let's play some cold weather football. Cold, frozen ground, frosty breath, hard ball...bring it on! This has the potential to be a unique, awesome environment.

[robertgoulet]

New topic - perhaps less contentious - how is Bethel going to beat North Central? What does BU need to do against them? (I mean beyond the cliché "we have to stop the run/pass and make them one dimensional".) For instance, Bethel has a habit this year of starting in pretty good field position after kick offs and punts - at least in the games I saw. Some time in the stat charts may make that previous statement seem a bit irrelevant - I just don't know honestly. What about BU's yards after catches? If the Royals can average such and such then they stand a good chance of defeating the Cardinals. Conversely, are there inherit weaknesses on the NCC side that we should watch for to know they are in trouble? Like, they start to line up in a Wing T or double flanker set - does those kind of things indicate anything? I want to be a more informed fan to better see the nuance of the game being played out on the field.

In playoff performances past, the key to beating NCC was turning them over (Stanek was turnover prone in big games in his early years). Stanek only has 1 INT this season, so it appears that those problems are behind him, but you never know. BU would appear to have the best D that NCC will have faced all year, combine that with the cold and you'd think that would be a recipe for a few errant passes.

In prior years, NCC has also had trouble with teams that can execute the short, quick passing scheme and keep their front 4 from getting home. They've also had a penchant for letting QBs get loose outside of the pocket, IMO. The MLB (Slezak) moved to the position this year after being a Safety in previous seasons. He's not as good against the run as MLBs past (NCC has had some dominant ones), but he's arguably better against the pass (that statement may seem to indicate that he's only a pretty good player, but he was the CCIW DPOY this season) so they may not be as susceptible against the short passing game as they used to be, but may be more susceptible to a power run game than in years past.

How are the QBs of BU in regards to their scrambling ability? How is the running game?

Edit: Actually wondering if I should have kept this private and off the boards, as to not give BU an advantage!

This is false, at least statistically. I think for NCC the Bethel D will be fairly close to the Wheaton D in both Scheme and physicality. Wheaton is ranked #12 in defense nationally (Bethel is #22). Wheaton held NCC to 379 yds this year but lost 35-16.

Also, Slezak was NOT the DPOY, Shane Dierking was.

Ooof. I'll stand by my comment on Bethel D because I can weasel my way out and say that I said that they "appear" to be the best...not that they were...

But I dropped the ball on the Slezak DPOY comment. Forgive me, MIAC board.

[D O.C.]

A Capital One Academic All America Team has been announced....

http://www.ascsports.org/documents/2013/12/3/2013_CapOne_D3_AAA_Football_Team.pdf

[AO]

A Capital One Academic All America Team has been announced....

http://www.ascsports.org/documents/2013/12/3/2013_CapOne_D3_AAA_Football_Team.pdf

As expected, there are 4 1st team All-Americans from the UMAC, the Ivy league of the MidWest.