FB: Minnesota Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[sjusection105]

The Johnnies have shown intial interest in my son who is a 2015

Do they like California boys out there? haha

campus looks gorgeous

1. What position does he play?
2. Yes, there is becoming a trend over the past 5 years of impact players from Calif. One piece of advice- "Bring warm clothes".
3. It is. Some find the adjustment from the concrete jungle to  the 56321 a difficult one.

[OzJohnnie]

The Johnnies have shown intial interest in my son who is a 2015

Do they like California boys out there? haha

campus looks gorgeous

1. What position does he play?
2. Yes, there is becoming a trend over the past 5 years of impact players from Calif. One piece of advice- "Bring warm clothes".
3. It is. Some find the adjustment from the concrete jungle to  the 56321 a difficult one.

My roommate one year was a transfer in from a California college (I think, can't quite remember) and he was Thai from Bangkok.  Only an intense fear of his mother's sharp tongue helped him stay at SJU when his first winter had the Halloween blizzard of '91.  I remember that even Domino's stopped delivering to campus for two days.

[faunch]

The Johnnies have shown intial interest in my son who is a 2015

Do they like California boys out there? haha

campus looks gorgeous

I would say we have no problem with California kids...many of them have done quite well at SJU.  Check out the roster and profiles of some of the players.  Probably wouldn't be too difficult for your son to get in touch with them via social media. 

http://www.gojohnnies.com/roster.aspx?path=football&

http://www.gojohnnies.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=9057&path=football

http://www.gojohnnies.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=9055&path=football

[OzJohnnie]

Marks and goals of the year contenders from round one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3agKKV7C_NY

[ExTartanPlayer]

I know I'm a bit late to the party on this one--I just listened to the archived SJU-Gustavus MIAC playoff game--but I'm a big fan of Bob Alpers doing color with VOJ.

I agree....Imagine how great a football webcast could be with a former player or two adding commentary.  It would give insight to the program and would be an opportunity to further promote the tradition of SJU football and athletics.

Isn't Charlie Carr a former player?

Maybe we don't count him because he was a punter. 

Charlie prefers to be called a 4th down QB 

I'd never heard this one before.  Spat some coffee on the keyboard

[ChicagoTommie]

[sjusection105]

I am not a lawyer but I agree common sense would mean those who supply not some unknowing land owner.
We need Finsleft or Johnnie Red to pipe in here.
This would be a tragic unintended consequence of this law if an unknowing land owner would potentially be held responsible for an incident such as this.
Duffman brings up a good point about seasonal lake  property. If a group of kids decide to park their pontoon off your dock in the middle of the week and throw a party...and you are 100 miles away how can you be held responsible?

I'm not a lawyer either, but I don't know how you could hold the land owner responsible if they weren't aware of the party. In this case, it sounds like the kids were trespassing on private property. That's like saying a home owner is responsible if someone breaks into their home while they were away just because the crime was committed on their property.

Exactly, that's why I said it would be tragic. There are so many laws on the books that do have unintended consequences. With the tragic death of a young man in this situation I would certainly hope that the landowner was not aware of the party being conducted and thus he should be held harmless.

Chargers Brought Against Father and Son in tragic death of a student in western Minnesota at an underaged drinking party

[OzJohnnie]

Chargers Brought Against Father and Son in tragic death of a student in western Minnesota at an underaged drinking party

Geez.  Multiple parties previously so although the father was unaware of this specific one, it is reasonable that he should have been.  Cripes.  Thanks son.

But this really gets me.  Roll on youthful accountability:

The 19-year-old Stratmoen, charged with underage drinking and fleeing law enforcement, wrote on Twitter just hours after Anyasike died that “I’m glad I got to spend your last night with you. Keep the party going up there.”

I'm always amused that we value the 'Youth Vote' come election time but then you see things like this and you think, "Youts got no sense of actions and consequences."  Apparently, the bad decisions that led to this event are not important.  Keep that party going, dude.  That quote there really tweaks a sore spot with me.

[OzJohnnie]

Biiig match between Hawthorn and Essendon on Friday night.  Both teams won their opening round match and Essendon are getting uppity about their chances this year.  The rivalry is fueled by years of acrimony and the best fights in AFL history, inlcuding:

The Line in the Sand in 2004.  (With it's own Wiki page!)

The Matthew Lloyd "Sniper" Affair of 2009.

You've got to love fights when they have their own names and fans of the game know exactly what you're talking about when you name them.  Every game between these clubs is a powder keg.  The Hawthorn coach, Allistair Clarkson, has declared that Essendon will "have the gloves on" Friday night in response to his pre-season comment that Essendon made a poor choice in appointing an inexperienced, but 'Son of the Club', head coach who subsequently drugged up his players and dragged the whole league through over a year of hell.  Should be a cracking game.

[DuffMan]

What a cluster!  A shame to lose a young life over something so trivial.

Erik Hastad, who last month pleaded guilty to his fourth underage drinking offense in the past 18 months...

4 in 18 months?   

Many attendees ran — some breaking through windows — in an effort not to get caught.

Diving through windows to get out of what, a $100 ticket?     I ran from a party or two in my days, but I would have never risked a dive through plate glass!

[RoyalsFan]

Chargers Brought Against Father and Son in tragic death of a student in western Minnesota at an underaged drinking party

That statement isn't quite accurate. Charges were brought against the father and son for hosting an underage drinking party, a misdemeanor, but no charges related to the death of the student. It will be interesting to see if the father will be convicted since he supposedly didn't know anything about the party and the prosecution is contending that he 'should have been aware of the party'. But if he really wasn't aware of it, how can he be held responsible? I thought convictions were based on facts/evidence, not speculation.

[sjusection105]

Chargers Brought Against Father and Son in tragic death of a student in western Minnesota at an underaged drinking party

That statement isn't quite accurate. Charges were brought against the father and son for hosting an underage drinking party, a misdemeanor, but no charges related to the death of the student. It will be interesting to see if the father will be convicted since he supposedly didn't know anything about the party and the prosecution is contending that he 'should have been aware of the party'. But if he really wasn't aware of it, how can he be held responsible? I thought convictions were based on facts/evidence, not speculation.

Social host charges have been brought against a father and son for an under-aged drinking party that lead to the tragic death of a teen in western Minnesota. That's about as detailed of a sentence as I can compose.

[finsleft]

Social Host laws have sprung up like the crocuses and tulips are supposed to have by now. This "let's-get-tough-on-kids-drinking" law du jour is a prime example of knee-jerk legislating. What? Due process? The constitution can't really mean that. The constitution is only supposed to protect my gun rights and make sure "under God" is in the Pledge of Allegiance!
HA!

[sjusection105]

Social Host laws have sprung up like the crocuses and tulips are supposed to have by now. This "let's-get-tough-on-kids-drinking" law du jour is a prime example of knee-jerk legislating.

Yea, 18 year old can die for his country,vote and get married but can't legally buy beer. What am I missing?

[ExTartanPlayer]

Chargers Brought Against Father and Son in tragic death of a student in western Minnesota at an underaged drinking party

Geez.  Multiple parties previously so although the father was unaware of this specific one, it is reasonable that he should have been.  Cripes.  Thanks son.

But this really gets me.  Roll on youthful accountability:

The 19-year-old Stratmoen, charged with underage drinking and fleeing law enforcement, wrote on Twitter just hours after Anyasike died that "I'm glad I got to spend your last night with you. Keep the party going up there."

I'm always amused that we value the 'Youth Vote' come election time but then you see things like this and you think, "Youts got no sense of actions and consequences."  Apparently, the bad decisions that led to this event are not important.  Keep that party going, dude.  That quote there really tweaks a sore spot with me.

Me too.  I tend to agree with the idea that 18-year-olds should be able to drink legally, but when you see thoughts like this, it makes me wonder "Do I really want to make it any easier for an idiot like that to get his hands on alcohol?"  One of the major concerns I have with lowering the legal age to 18 is not necessarily that 19-20 year old kids at college would drink unabated, but moreso that 18-year-old seniors in high school would be able to furnish their even younger high-school classmates with all they can drink, and at some point we do have to wonder about the wisdom of making it easy for high school kids to throw their own parties.  Lord knows, while good parents can certainly make a difference, 16-year-olds are going to do some dumb things without alcohol; what the heck will they do if their 18-year-old buddy can buy it for them?  I'm probably not the first person ever to think of this, but has there ever been discussion of dropping the legal age for consumption of alcohol to 18 while maintaining the legal age of 21 to purchase it?  Seems that might make it more reasonable for college-aged kids to drink legally while reducing the risk of HS parties furnished by 18-year-old seniors.

I do agree that it's pretty senseless for a kid to die because he felt the need to run from the cops over drinking, but nor am I going to throw a pity party for kids that were doing something that they obviously knew was wrong.  Whether it should be illegal is another issue, but right now it still is illegal.  Is it sad that a kid died?  Of course, but I'm in the camp with OzJohnnie that would rather tell teens with this type of attitude to get off my lawn.

(Full disclosure: I was a goody-two-shoes that never drank in HS and only on rare occasions in college.  These days I love a good glass of wine, or better yet, a stiff pour of bourbon, but it's still a once-every-few-weeks indulgence rather than a regular affair, so my opinions may well be influenced by my goody-good attitude because I was never cool enough to be invited to these parties).